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The Existance of God

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Re: The Existance of God

Postby dantespyke » Mar 21st, '06, 00:08

Mequuh wrote:Hmmm.. Nothing better to talk about.

To get the ball rolling- Here are a few reasons I do not believe in god.

I'm an atheist, and here's my reasons.

First of all, I don't like the idea of some all powerful being controlling our every movement. It is just not possible, even for someone as infinitley powerful as a "God." I capatilize it because I show respect, even though I don't believe.

Second, if we were meant to follow the Bible fully and without question (or so I hear people say) then half of the world would be killed for working on Sunday. Yeah, you aren't supposed to work on a Sunday, because its the "Sabbath."

Third, I say this most strongly. No mention of Dinosaurs ANYWHERE in the Bible. Or at least the Christian one, because I haven't looked at any other religions. We already know Dinosaurs existed, because we found their bones. The closest thing is the Behemoth and Leviathan mentioned somewhere in the Bible. Also, no mention of cavemen, neanderthals, etc.

Fourth: I've had religion crammed down my throat since an early age, and I also find the idea of worshipping someone who supposedly doesn't need it a little redundant. A Christian I know says "Its not the worshipping, its the fact that you have enough faith to go worship." What's the difference?



Those are all very very bad points...

1. Well thats because God doesnt controll our every movement... He wants to see what we decide.

2.God wouldnt kill people for working on the sabbath... It was written in ancient times when people didnt need to pay for all the things we do now. No bills for water, heat, electricity. Times have changed and so has the interpatation of the Bible.

3. Do you think that the bible didnt mention dinosaurs because man came to earth after they all died!? Mind fuck I know. The bible was conveyed to man do God didnt sit there and say ok I made the bears, the cats, the dogs etc. etc. It says he made the land beasts.

4. You dont worship God because he needs it. People worship him as a way to say thankyou for the life they enjoy, to fill an empty spot in them, to ensure a path to heaven. Its different for everyone.

There are very good reasons to belive in God and good reasons not to, you however posted none of these.
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Postby Logann » Mar 21st, '06, 01:16

I myself am a fairly fortunate person, but I see many others who have horrible lives and misfortune, lots of them good people. If we really did have an almighty loving being above us, why would he let such things happen?

I'm just going to throw all my skepulations at you faithful.. You can't have a reason for all these things.
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Postby Kurimoto » Mar 21st, '06, 01:30

actually we can

people have horrible lives
1: because they dont make there lifes better, god gave us free will to do with our lives as we wish
2: adam and eves sinfull acts in the garded made our lives not-perfect
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Postby dantespyke » Mar 21st, '06, 01:42

hes right
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Postby Logann » Mar 21st, '06, 01:51

I know. I mean good hearted people who try day in and day out to make everything better and have the worst luck on the world. I don't beluieve in that adam and eve stuff so please try another example? :confusion:
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Postby Kurimoto » Mar 21st, '06, 01:56

well you also have to keep in mind lucifer...a person who does good will always have to deal with the suffering and temptation that the fallen angel brings into the world.

and how can you not believe in adam and eve? obviously there had to be a 1st man and woman on earth..and why do i need to give you another example, its my understanding you dont believe any of this, so according to your logic i have to give examples for everything.
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Postby Nick419 » Mar 21st, '06, 01:58

i smoke weed with god everyday :smoking: we get high and talk about how he banged this chick in the air since he has wings lol
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Postby Kurimoto » Mar 21st, '06, 02:03

eminemfan419 wrote:i smoke weed with god everyday :smoking: we get high and talk about how he banged this chick in the air since he has wings lol


good to know that your a blasphemer...i would recomend you ask for forgiveness, what you did her is take gods name in vain
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Postby Nick419 » Mar 21st, '06, 02:05

i never said i didnt believe in god logan did...and i say the name in vein all the time its just a habbit i always say omg its just a habbit.
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 21st, '06, 02:09

break it up! no fighting in the threads... take it to the pms!
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Postby Logann » Mar 21st, '06, 02:23

Kurimoto wrote:well you also have to keep in mind lucifer...a person who does good will always have to deal with the suffering and temptation that the fallen angel brings into the world.

and how can you not believe in adam and eve? obviously there had to be a 1st man and woman on earth..and why do i need to give you another example, its my understanding you dont believe any of this, so according to your logic i have to give examples for everything.

I'm lucifer now? Can't say I beleive in him either. And thats my point. Gods unfair. If you break his rules, you lose. If you follow them all perfectly, you still lose. If god exists wouldn't be destroy what is evil? Even that.. Fallen angle or whatever.

And it's called Evolution. Tell me, where did Adam come from? *Poof*?
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Postby BLAHBLAHBLAH » Mar 21st, '06, 02:32

i want to believe in GOD- my dad is really religious and he tries to teach me life lessons but i just can't get my mind to believe that one person or "higher power" to believe in it
i figure that when we die who cares if we go to heaven or hell or no place at all
it's just i say that now when i don't have to think about death yet- or i don't think about death
i believe it in my heart but i just can't in my head
I act like shit don't phase me
inside it drives me crazy
my insecurities could eat me alive!
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Postby dantespyke » Mar 21st, '06, 04:01

Mequuh wrote:
Kurimoto wrote:well you also have to keep in mind lucifer...a person who does good will always have to deal with the suffering and temptation that the fallen angel brings into the world.

and how can you not believe in adam and eve? obviously there had to be a 1st man and woman on earth..and why do i need to give you another example, its my understanding you dont believe any of this, so according to your logic i have to give examples for everything.

I'm lucifer now? Can't say I beleive in him either. And thats my point. Gods unfair. If you break his rules, you lose. If you follow them all perfectly, you still lose. If god exists wouldn't be destroy what is evil? Even that.. Fallen angle or whatever.

And it's called Evolution. Tell me, where did Adam come from? *Poof*?


Maybe you should spend 5 minutes on google researching things. He's not calling you Lucifer. Do you know who Lucifer was? Let me guess the devil? No he was the greatest Angel in heaven. A good person untill he abused the free will he was given. If you break the rules you lose correct you have no one to blame but yourself. If you follow them your life still might be tough but then again it might be good. But in the end you go to heaven and it was worth it. God doesnt destroy evil because that would destroy free will, his gift to man.
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Postby Logann » Mar 21st, '06, 04:07

Given how his spelling is, it can easily be confused as:

You also have to keep in mind, Lucifer, a person who does good will always have to deal with the sufering and temprtation that the fallen angle brings to the world.

As if he were calling me evil for being athiest. Then making another point. 4th grade grammer.

And why should I spend my time googling things I don't beleive in, you silly goose.

And your neglecting my main point of my last post. Why does god allow evil in any way if he has the power to stop it. This all loving man. I can see punishing the bad, but tormenting the innocent?
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 21st, '06, 12:37

The bible and religion have been perfected throughout centuries, it would be rather hard to contradict anything in it, because there have been numerous explanations created throughout time.

I read the bible, i studied 6 years in a school thats obsessed with christianity, i see being religious being a waste of time. People are just too obsessed about it. If this is a testing ground for man, then one should try live life to its fullest and conclude his own moral to life.

Supposing there is God, he is definately a wise being, he wrote the ten commandments not because he wanted us to live obiding the rules 100%, but to give us a conception of wat the difference between "good" and "evil" is.
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