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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Jaz » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:36

It's not the meaning of the word. Therefore every other word you wrote in this thread is counterfeited.


Now go back to riding Pac's boney nuts and stop acting like you know what you're saying.
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby mcZu » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:37

Jaz wrote:lmao you're both wrong, it's as simple as that.


DELIVERY is the emotion, etc. put into the verse.

LYRICISM is the rhyme-schemes, multis, and structure of the piece.


One could argue that story-telling (and thus "observations") might fall into lyricism, but to me story-telling is it's own thing.

Still, the emotion put into words IS NOT lyricism.


YOU'RE wrong, so why don't YOU go educate YOURSELF.

Have you ever read a book that depicts an emotional scene? Does the book have a delivery, besides if you ordered it? No, words do convey emotion. Since words are part of the aspects you use to construct a verse, thus contructing lyrics, emotion is part of lyricism.
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:38

lol @ slim. at least i could admit it, your a fucking delusional fuck, whos afraid to let go a pacs left nut.
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Jaz » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:40

mcZu wrote:
Jaz wrote:lmao you're both wrong, it's as simple as that.


DELIVERY is the emotion, etc. put into the verse.

LYRICISM is the rhyme-schemes, multis, and structure of the piece.


One could argue that story-telling (and thus "observations") might fall into lyricism, but to me story-telling is it's own thing.

Still, the emotion put into words IS NOT lyricism.


YOU'RE wrong, so why don't YOU go educate YOURSELF.

Have you ever read a book that depicts an emotional scene? Does the book have a delivery, besides if you ordered it? No, words do convey emotion. Since words are part of the aspects you use to construct a verse, thus contructing lyrics, emotion is part of lyricism.



No. Because in hip hop, the words are conveyed to you with emotion. You don't read a song, so how is that a valid point? Words can have emotion portrayed in them, yes.. but in a song the emotion is conveyed for you through the delivery.

Ever heard a book on tape? Only the emotion the reader conveys through their DELIVERY is portrayed.
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:40

CoSh wrote:lol @ slim. at least i could admit it, your a fucking delusional fuck, whos afraid to let go a pacs left nut.

Lost argument so insults me because he can't say anything back to my logical response.

@Jaz Make better music than Pac did and you can talk :y:
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Jaz » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:42

Slim's Shady wrote:
CoSh wrote:lol @ slim. at least i could admit it, your a fucking delusional fuck, whos afraid to let go a pacs left nut.

Lost argument so insults me because he can't say anything back to my logical response.

@Jaz Make better music than Pac did and you can talk :y:



Suck less dick than superhead and then you can.


Deal. I guess we'll both be leaving this thread for a while.


Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you any more. Maybe Mczu since he presents opinions and facts that he thinks might help... You just say the same stupid fucking thing over and over again.


OH GOOGLE IT IT SAYS IT ON GOOGLE FUCKING GOOGLE DUDE AARRGRGGHHH GOOOOOOOOGGLE


fuck outta here..
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:44

Jaz wrote:
Slim's Shady wrote:
CoSh wrote:lol @ slim. at least i could admit it, your a fucking delusional fuck, whos afraid to let go a pacs left nut.

Lost argument so insults me because he can't say anything back to my logical response.

@Jaz Make better music than Pac did and you can talk :y:



Suck less dick than superhead and then you can.


Deal. I guess we'll both be leaving this thread for a while.

I would but the difference is....I actually ment what I said. I don't know about you. But unless you know where I live you can't know for sure :unsure:
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby mcZu » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:44

Jaz wrote:
mcZu wrote:
Jaz wrote:lmao you're both wrong, it's as simple as that.


DELIVERY is the emotion, etc. put into the verse.

LYRICISM is the rhyme-schemes, multis, and structure of the piece.


One could argue that story-telling (and thus "observations") might fall into lyricism, but to me story-telling is it's own thing.

Still, the emotion put into words IS NOT lyricism.


YOU'RE wrong, so why don't YOU go educate YOURSELF.

Have you ever read a book that depicts an emotional scene? Does the book have a delivery, besides if you ordered it? No, words do convey emotion. Since words are part of the aspects you use to construct a verse, thus contructing lyrics, emotion is part of lyricism.



No. Because in hip hop, the words are conveyed to you with emotion. You don't read a song, so how is that a valid point? Words can have emotion portrayed in them, yes.. but in a song the emotion is conveyed for you through the delivery.

Ever heard a book on tape? Only the emotion the reader conveys is portrayed.

Emotion is part of lyricism, your delivery can be as sad as hell, without the correct words, bars, lyrics, it won't have the proper impact as it should have.
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:46

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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby NicoleEM » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:48

CoSh wrote: Big vs. Pac arguments go on for about 20 threads usually.

Ehmm you were right...this thread was supossed to be about Flex Dissing 2Pac not an arguement about who's the best between 2Pac and Biggie!They are both legends and both have a wide fanbase.Just enjoy their music(no matter which one is your fav) and stop trying to make the others think like you.People have different tastes in music,it's pointless to argue on OPINIONS! :b:
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:48

Slim's Shady wrote:
CoSh wrote:lol @ slim. at least i could admit it, your a fucking delusional fuck, whos afraid to let go a pacs left nut.

Lost argument so insults me because he can't say anything back to my logical response.

@Jaz Make better music than Pac did and you can talk :y:

1. You have no say in whether hip hop is good or not.
2. Tupac has never rhymed a word more than 1 syllable.
3. Lost the battle to Biggie by making a song with no real shots showing he was butthurt.
4. Has never switched his flow once besides Dopefiends Diner


Ethered. I'm out. BTW you suck at life. Open your ears and get off pacs cock. I win and you know it, so i'm not responding anymore. Anyone with half a brain can tell 2Pac was a shitty rapper. I guess you don't even have a half of a brain lol at you, you waste of sperm, respond all you want, because i'm out. And no matter how much you say you win, you lost. Just accept it and move on. :laughing: @ you.

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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Jaz » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:49

mcZu wrote:Emotion is part of lyricism, you're delivery can be as sad as hell, without the correct words, bars, lyrics, it won't have the proper impact as it should have.



Still not really saying much new here. The only case a delivery could be intently sad and not come across right is if the delivery simply don't fit the mood of the piece. If you're talking about a happy subject in a sad way, then sure.. but the only way I see this happening is purposefully and to prove your point alone, not in any real music.

Like I said, you're right in that the words themselves can have their own inlaid emotion, but in a song that emotion WILL NEVER be heard. Only through the way the words are delivered will emotion be portrayed properly.. Unless you're reading the lyrics, in which case I don't care to argue about that because that's something different all together.
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby mcZu » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:50

Guys, don't succumb to the level of insults.. Keep it respectable.


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Jaz wrote:
mcZu wrote:Emotion is part of lyricism, you're delivery can be as sad as hell, without the correct words, bars, lyrics, it won't have the proper impact as it should have.



Still not really saying much new here. The only case a delivery could be intently sad and not come across right is if the delivery simply don't fit the mood of the piece. If you're talking about a happy subject in a sad way, then sure.. but the only way I see this happening is purposefully and to prove your point alone, not in any real music.

Like I said, you're right in that the words themselves can have their own inlaid emotion, but in a song that emotion WILL NEVER be heard. Only through the way the words are delivered will emotion be portrayed properly.. Unless you're reading the lyrics, in which case I don't care to argue about that because that's something different all together.

Still, it remains part of lyricism. I'm not saying you're wrong, 'cause you're right, without the proper delivery it won't be emotional music; however, since lyricism is the craft of writing, and writing emotional packed lyrics is part of that, I still believe that ''emotion'' is an aspect of lyricism. The things you write depicting a certain feel is what people usually refer to as emotional writing. Take Joe Budden for example, he often has certain references to his personal life in his bars that portray an emotion, that is the emotional aspect of writing. Like how rhyming and wordplay is part of the tools one uses to write, emotional phrasing is one as well.
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:54

CoSh wrote:
Slim's Shady wrote:
CoSh wrote:lol @ slim. at least i could admit it, your a fucking delusional fuck, whos afraid to let go a pacs left nut.

Lost argument so insults me because he can't say anything back to my logical response.

@Jaz Make better music than Pac did and you can talk :y:

1. You have no say in whether hip hop is good or not.
2. Tupac has never rhymed a word more than 1 syllable.
3. Lost the battle to Biggie by making a song with no real shots showing he was butthurt.
4. Has never switched his flow once besides Dopefiends Diner


Ethered. I'm out. BTW you suck at life. Open your ears and get off pacs cock. I win and you know it, so i'm not responding anymore. Anyone with half a brain can tell 2Pac was a shitty rapper. I guess you don't even have a half of a brain lol at you, you waste of sperm, respond all you want, because i'm out. And no matter how much you say you win, you lost. Just accept it and move on. :laughing: @ you.

end of thread.

1. I'm sure k block already stripped that away from you already.
2. Listen to 2Pac for the first time in your life. PLEASE
3. Hit 'Em Up & Bomb 1st > Who Shot Ya. Face the facts, shut the fuck up.
4. Stupid exaggeration, listen to 2Pac. open your eyes.

You're claiming you won an argument = loss. 6th grade insults = loss. you're not responding anymore so shut the fuck up, sit and swallow what I'm saying :y: nd if anyone who likes 2Pac has half a brain-cell then LMAO @ the state of the world. You claim you win an argument lmao it's funny. And I thought that you had the "guts" to admit a loss. LIE.

end of argument. Because you said you weren't gonna respond. so SHUT THE FUCK UP :y:
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Re: Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

Postby Jaz » Nov 23rd, '10, 23:55

Slim's Shady wrote:I would but the difference is....I actually ment what I said. I don't know about you. But unless you know where I live you can't know for sure :unsure:



OOooh no you told me my music is worse than someone's who is for some reason widely considered the best ever ahhhhhh I'm going to quit now.

Seriously, why would that bother me? How about you make a song better than my worst song and then you can take my nuts off your chin.
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