If Eminem dissed Lil Wayne, who would have won?

[EminemBase]

Eminem at his worst is still infinitely better than Wayne at his best.

"be good or be good at it"

He's such... I mean, it's basically this...
read a book or read about a book
think twice or give it a second thought
be the best or be better

It's just fucking... ridiculous, pretentious babble.

Wayne is really bad. The best complement I'll give him is that he isn't ALWAYS awful, he'll occasionally have an OK or even good line. But anybody can come up with occasional okay or good lines, you need more than that to call yourself a lyricist.

Eminem has more personality, wit, innovation and originality on fucking "Big Weenie" than Wayne does for an album.

I see what you're saying, but the example you gave wasn't the best. "Be good or be good at it" is like saying "be good, or be good at being bad", or at least that's how I interpreted it.

You've just re-made my point for me, with that line.

You could interpret it many ways because it's vague and pretentious. You see, a great artist / lyricist, like Em for example - is sometimes purposely ambiguous but he makes the ambiguity a point in itself, he wants you to know he's being ambiguous.

A great artist purposely gives you a few interpretations to chew on, Wayne however, obviously isn't doing that. He's just desperately trying to 'sound' witty or poetic without really understanding why, or what his ultimate points are lmao. So it's totally aimless.

[stephenk2012]

Eminem will definitely win if he dissed Lil Wayne, no doubt about that one.

[Sho0tinG STar]

prob em

[goblue418]

You could interpret it many ways because it's vague and pretentious. You see, a great artist / lyricist, like Em for example - is sometimes purposely ambiguous but he makes the ambiguity a point in itself, he wants you to know he's being ambiguous.

A great artist purposely gives you a few interpretations to chew on, Wayne however, obviously isn't doing that. He's just desperately trying to 'sound' witty or poetic without really understanding why, or what his ultimate points are lmao. So it's totally aimless.

not trying to start anything, im actually going to bed after this post so but heres one from 07 with some "meaning" to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofq8nF_JBow im guessing you havnt heard it yet. its easy to make a point when you havnt heard any music to prove a point to the contrary. just food for thought

and the fact that you said this :"Eminem has more personality, wit, innovation and originality on fucking "Big Weenie" than Wayne does for an album." proves you know absolutely fucking nothing about any music besides eminem. please refrain from trying to talk shit or w/e the fuck youre doing unless its about em. the carter 3 put most of ems modern shit(anything after TES) to shame. /EOR for now

[flyingmonkey10]

lil wayne trying to diss or outshine eminem is like asking christopher reeve to a dance off

not very effective at all

[goblue418]

lil wayne trying to diss or outshine eminem is like asking christopher reeve to a dance off

not very effective at all

through TES, yes. but since then, i disagree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyEtmfQCxbY&NR=1

[EminemBase]

not trying to start anything, im actually going to bed after this post so but heres one from 07 with some "meaning" to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofq8nF_JBow im guessing you havnt heard it yet. its easy to make a point when you havnt heard any music to prove a point to the contrary. just food for thought

Actually, I have heard that and I've heard a few of Wayne's albums, including C3. So don't go making empty assumptions based on your own need to prove a point without actually knowing the FACTS. Don't you think it would be smarter to ask me first rather than make the assumption anyway and make yourself look foolish like... now?

Don't assume that just because I don't agree Wayne is a good lyricist that I have only heard his shit songs. What absolutely astounding arrogance.

I've got no obligation to hate Lil Wayne, I hate his music for a reason. I give everybody a fair chance, I'm only interested in the music / lyrics. I'm an objective person, not a fucking fan boy who's interest is to fly the flag of people I don't know and rally against their fucking fans' squabble enemies.

and the fact that you said this :"Eminem has more personality, wit, innovation and originality on fucking "Big Weenie" than Wayne does for an album." proves you know absolutely fucking nothing about any music besides eminem. please refrain from trying to talk shit or w/e the fuck youre doing unless its about em. the carter 3 put most of ems modern shit to shame. /EOR for now

No, the fact that you have just said that proves once again not only your astounding arrogance and MORONIC assumptions which expose your lack of intelligent debate skills, but your fuck-head, pig-head, dick-head presumption on my character.

So... just because I think Em has more character in X song than Wayne does in an album, that "proves" I only listen to Eminem? Do you realize what a fucking idiotic thing to say that is. No, what it proves is that I analyze art and lyricism at a more intelligent level than you do.

You quite clearly take things, like 99% of people at absolute face value and I know for a fact that because the song concept itself is absurd, you write off the entire song. Eminem (even when being ridiculous) - uses character, and tongue in cheek and literary technique. Wayne is awful at all the things I just mentioned and when he does attempt them does them to an embarrassing standard.

And, do not assume that because I don't share your view on Wayne and would even place a shit Eminem above a good Wayne that I only listen to Eminem. You know how fucking annoying that claim is? Do you also realize how fucking unoriginal a cop-out it is? One that every newbie fuck head loser uses everytime anybody claims Eminem is better than somebody they like.

Seriously, get a fucking brain. You wanna see my fucking music collection? You wanna fucking ask me about other rappers and have me prove my knowledge of their work? BRING IT THE FUCK ON SHIT FACE, bring it on righhhhht now.

Because I'm sick of idiots like you making that pathetic claim everytime you don't have your shit taste validated.

[Eazy-GFX]

EmBase.

[Rash J]

Eminem Even in his drugged up state

[goblue418]

I've got no obligation to hate Lil Wayne, I hate his music for a reason.

not sure why im arrogant, you are yet to supply a reason other than "eminem is better"

which expose your lack of intelligent debate skills, but your fuck-head, pig-head, dick-head presumption on my character.

so personal attacks are debate skills now? ok, now i know

So... just because I think Em has more character in X song than Wayne does in an album, that "proves" I only listen to Eminem? Do you realize what a fucking idiotic thing to say that is. No, what it proves is that I analyze art and lyricism at a more intelligent level than you do.

ITS FUCKING "BIG WEENIE VS One of the highest selling albums of the fucking decade! Are you that fucking retarded? get off ems dick for one minute. stop criticizing me for making logical assumptions.

You quite clearly take things, like 99% of people at absolute face value and I know for a fact that because the song concept itself is absurd, you write off the entire song. Eminem (even when being ridiculous) - uses character, and tongue in cheek and literary technique. Wayne is awful at all the things I just mentioned and when he does attempt them does them to an embarrassing standard.

? based off what? i just provided a meaningful wayne song and you say the opposite? again, give me a reason, not a personal attack

Because I'm sick of idiots like you making that pathetic claim everytime you don't have your shit taste validated.

well, i like eminem as well so i guess we share that same shit taste?


btw, your mom said it tasted ok last night

[goblue418]

haha sorry, im tired and hes not really worth it. i remember when he posted a pic of himself as his avatar hahahahaha

[EminemBase]

ITS FUCKING "BIG WEENIE VS One of the highest selling albums of the fucking decade! Are you that fucking retarded? get off ems dick for one minute. stop criticizing me for making logical assumptions.

What the fuck kind of comparison is that? lmao. Britney Spears also has one, more than one actually highest selling albums of the decade - would you say that ANY song on her albums is more artistically valid than say... any Nas song?

What the fuck do sales have to do with this.

And no, it's not "Big Weenie" vs. it, like I said - you take things at face-value. Did I say the song itself, the idea itself, the song as a whole was better than anything Wayne has done? NO. But you read it as that because you don't read and understand what I say properly, or see the true point. You comprehend points like a ten year old.

I said he displays more character, more lyrical personality in that song alone. That does not mean the song is better or that the song itself is more creative, it means Eminem 'in' that song, the qualities he displayed were STILL far and beyond anything Wayne displays.

For example, when in the song he goes "you sir are on truth-serum" then proceeds into character as a detractor (on truth serum) and confesses all his fears and anxious thoughts. That, despite the song itself is creative. Eminem has an aim to his creativity, he justifies the madness, he justifies the ambiguity - Wayne never justifies it, it's always aimless and pretentious. And badly executed. That is why.

(again though, I know you'll take that specific example at face-value only and not see the bigger picture or what I truly mean by pointing that out. And if I hadn't of wrote this you probably would of gone and fetched examples where you thought Wayne was more creative than that specific example I posted, again missing the point entirely. Although, you may still do that. Because you're a dumb person.)

btw, your mom said it tasted ok last night

[Elision]

Eminem.

Regardless of how drugged he was, he grew up on battle rap and he would've gone for the kill.

I JUST said that dog

[M+M]

Eminem would win at any given time.
lil wayne would only be able to talk himself up while eminem would pull him apart.

[psu24]

I'm not even gonna bother discussing this on here but I don't think people give Wayne enough credit. Em's better by far, that said Em's worst is not better than Wayne's best. Go listen to I'm Me, Something You Forgot, Dr.Carter, Mr.Carter, Shine, Hustler Muzik. None of those songs are as bad as Ass Like that or My First Single. If Em would have dissed at that time who knows what would have happened, honestly I don't think either would have killed the other one, all it would do is divide the fans I guess. Any time other than 05-06 Em would have probably killed Wayne lyrically.