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The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby FreeSpeech » Jan 24th, '11, 02:56

...is the mixing/sound quality. All of the other complaints (shouting, content, wordplay, etc.) are very subjective. I made a thread complaining how I hate LTWYL, but when it comes down to it, Em can do whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to switch up his style, fine. However, the audio quality of Recovery really bugs me. Since there were so many producers, the sound just seems inconsistent. I'm not talking about the beats. I prefer Dre beats, but if Em wants to switch it up he can. The one thing I feel was needed was Dre's mastering. Listen to TES or really any Em album and then put on Recovery. It sounds hollow, like a beat and words playing simultaneously instead of one blended sound. his is really the only concrete issue I have.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby Satire » Jan 24th, '11, 03:41

Alot of it has to do with the fact that Em doesn't use the signature multi-tracking he's known for anymore.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby FreeSpeech » Jan 24th, '11, 03:46

Satire wrote:Alot of it has to do with the fact that Em doesn't use the signature multi-tracking he's known for anymore.

Are you talking about layering his vocals? Yeah I agree. I'm sure the beats are all multi-track though.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 24th, '11, 04:17

If you listen to it, front to back, without skipping a song, then you'll notice that Recovery has its own signature "sound". Like all the tracks are meant to be there, not a single one is really out of place, except for Won't Back Down (even though it's not a bad song) because of the beat, mainly. Yeah, Recovery has different producers, but Just Blaze and Khalil are the main producers throughout, so if you think about it, it's not as inconsistent as you make it seem
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby FreeSpeech » Jan 24th, '11, 04:20

xxTrigger1989xx wrote:If you listen to it, front to back, without skipping a song, then you'll notice that Recovery has its own signature "sound". Like all the tracks are meant to be there, not a single one is really out of place, except for Won't Back Down (even though it's not a bad song) because of the beat, mainly. Yeah, Recovery has different producers, but Just Blaze and Khalil are the main producers throughout, so if you think about it, it's not as inconsistent as you make it seem

I'm not talking about the beats or the track order, I'm talking about how there are noticable differences in how the different tracks were mixed, and how the overall sound/mixing quality isn't up to par when compared to Em's other albums. Em has said himself that one of the main reasons he loves working with Dre is for his mixing.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 24th, '11, 04:26

Oh...well...yeah, I kind of notice it, a little bit. But I really think that's just from the amount of producers. On his next album, he might be more exclusive, because he HAS to know that the beats were a lot of the main issue with some extremely hardcore fans and critics. He has to know, I'm sure he does
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby FreeSpeech » Jan 24th, '11, 04:28

xxTrigger1989xx wrote:Oh...well...yeah, I kind of notice it, a little bit. But I really think that's just from the amount of producers. On his next album, he might be more exclusive, because he HAS to know that the beats were a lot of the main issue with some extremely hardcore fans and critics. He has to know, I'm sure he does

It's completely because of the number of producers. I prefer Dre beats, but I'm OK with him using a variety. If Dre had mastered the whole album himself, with all the original beats, it would have been way better.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby Alia » Jan 24th, '11, 04:31

I agree, the production seems cheap. It doesn't have the same depth and quality as the production on his previous albums.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby Elision » Jan 24th, '11, 09:35

FreeSpeech wrote:if Em wants to switch it up he can.
Thanks. I'll make sure to let him know that he now has your permission.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby FreeSpeech » Jan 24th, '11, 09:45

Nollie wrote:
FreeSpeech wrote:if Em wants to switch it up he can.
Thanks. I'll make sure to let him know that he now has your permission.

I wasn't giving him permission I was saying he can do whatever he wants artistically, it's a fact. Audio quality should be the one thing that shouldn't change as it really has no effect on anything other than making the songs sound good, plain and simple.

Try not being a smart aleck prick and contributing to discussions...
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby Elision » Jan 24th, '11, 10:04

FreeSpeech wrote:Try not being a smart aleck prick and contributing to discussions...
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby shadyboymez » Jan 24th, '11, 16:00

i agree, though i think the production quality is where Recovery is lacking. The beats sound so generic, so 2010 radio, they don't have the signature Eminem sound at all.

Also, i have been listening to my MMLP and SSLP much more recently and i just love how there is so much detail to every song. The little background noises and comments that he had then are completely non existent now.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby One Mic » Jan 24th, '11, 16:07

OP I don't really know what you're on about.

I think you need to get yourself a physical copy of Recovery from an authorised record store, instead of downloading it from the internet illegally, in shitty quality. Because the copy I have sounds absoloutely fine.

In before you rant how you DO have an official physical copy of the CD but you still think the 'sound quality' is bad. Well in that case, I'd advise you to get better speakers / headphones. Oh wait shit, you've got the best speakers in the world, and your headphones are fine? Hmmmmm...dunno mate.

I really don't see your point.
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby ThomasJ » Jan 24th, '11, 16:16

You don't need amazing headphones/speakers or a physical copy of Recovery to realize that So Bad is the best sounding song on the album. lol
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Re: The only inexcusable problem with Recovery

Postby One Mic » Jan 24th, '11, 16:18

The sound quality of Recovery sounds exactly like his other albums, only I found it's slightly better quality/louder than SSLP and MMLP
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