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english as a national language

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should we?

yes
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no
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this question seems racist to me
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nein spreiken de deutch
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Postby Kurimoto » Apr 1st, '06, 21:08

Angie wrote:-_- okay just beacuse ur in a country... it means u shuold speak their language.... ur fucking close min'd -_-

god you must be liberal
so im in america, my country, but i should learn THERE language for when they come here? that dont even make sence, im not closed minded but this is our country not theres, they need to keep there language in there country. its people like you that probably think we should learn spanish to help the ILLEGLALS comming into our country...well fuck all that
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Postby dantespyke » Apr 2nd, '06, 02:37

If they dont wanna learn it then they should get the fuck out.
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 2nd, '06, 04:37

ya, but it just dosnt make it hard for them, it makes it hard for us too..... becus my mom used to work at a general store, and the apartments across the street had a bunch of imigrants living there, and they always used to go to the store, but they didnt know english.... and it just created this whole akward and uncomfortable situation, cus they would cum in and ask for stuff, but my mom didnt know wat they were sayin, so she would have to call my sister who took spanish and ask.... but she didnt speak it fluently...... and it was just a big mess.

and last year my mom and i moved into those same apartments, and there was a laundry room..... and we would go down and wash r clothes than throw them in the drier, and go back to our apartment...... then, about 10 minits later we would go down and check to see if they were dry, and the mexican dudes would take our wet cloths out of the drier and use the money we put in there to dry there clothes....... and we know it was them cus we saw them, and i just think that took a lot of nerve :angry: i dont know....... im just really pissed off about everything.

and to quote southpark: "they took our jobs!"
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Postby Kurimoto » Apr 2nd, '06, 06:22

> Evil _ MoNkEy < wrote:ya, but it just dosnt make it hard for them, it makes it hard for us too..... becus my mom used to work at a general store, and the apartments across the street had a bunch of imigrants living there, and they always used to go to the store, but they didnt know english.... and it just created this whole akward and uncomfortable situation, cus they would cum in and ask for stuff, but my mom didnt know wat they were sayin, so she would have to call my sister who took spanish and ask.... but she didnt speak it fluently...... and it was just a big mess.

and last year my mom and i moved into those same apartments, and there was a laundry room..... and we would go down and wash r clothes than throw them in the drier, and go back to our apartment...... then, about 10 minits later we would go down and check to see if they were dry, and the mexican dudes would take our wet cloths out of the drier and use the money we put in there to dry there clothes....... and we know it was them cus we saw them, and i just think that took a lot of nerve :angry: i dont know....... im just really pissed off about everything.

and to quote southpark: "they took our jobs!"


THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby dantespyke » Apr 3rd, '06, 00:11

She's right people who dont speak English makes life harder for us, and that isnt fair that we should be at a disadvanage in our own country
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 3rd, '06, 01:51

dantespyke wrote:She's right people who dont speak English makes life harder for us, and that isnt fair that we should be at a disadvanage in our own country


hell ya...... thank u..... thats exactly wat im sayin

and memyselforwho..... its a southpark episode, lmao
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 3rd, '06, 01:57

Sarah wrote:
> Evil _ MoNkEy < wrote:
dantespyke wrote:She's right people who dont speak English makes life harder for us, and that isnt fair that we should be at a disadvanage in our own country


hell ya...... thank u..... thats exactly wat im sayin

and sarah..... its a southpark episode, lmao

:unsure: What, that long story? ^_^


im sorry... i meant memyself.... about the southpark eppisode... but if u notice, i edited it....... but that long story is true and happened to me and my momma
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 3rd, '06, 02:32

^^^ LMFAO, its cool man :laughing:
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 3rd, '06, 04:17

he is not an idiot angi :angry: hes very very smart :tounge2: and i dont even know wat the hell ur tryin to say.... im confused, and i usualy have no problem following u...... but that is wat it sounded like...... wait *reading the last 10 threads* um....... wat r u tryin to say neway?
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 3rd, '06, 04:45

Angie wrote:
> Evil _ MoNkEy < wrote:he is not an idiot angi :angry: hes very very smart :tounge2: and i dont even know wat the hell ur tryin to say.... im confused, and i usualy have no problem following u...... but that is wat it sounded like...... wait *reading the last 10 threads* um....... wat r u tryin to say neway?


he is if he cant follow this... smart in what way?
anywhom...
im try'n to say it be wrong to force a language on some1 no matter where they come from.. should be required.. im not say'n it wouldnt help it would be very helpful for them to learn the countrys language.. but to force something on someone and say their worthless if they dont know it is bull shit!! that all it is...
- as for them taking ur jobs... -_- read the link... they cant take something u havent earnd just beacause thir willing to work for less and harder aint their fault they are more employable because of it..

-and im not a liberal... i just see both sides to these seen how im in the middle....

there did u follow that...

ill go over it if u want.. -_-



yes.... i followed... and u dont gatta be all like that :( ... u know im slow :whistle:

and hes smart in many ways (debate, current events, history.... future lawyer..... just to name a few)...... and he wasnt sayin that if u dont know it ur a worthless peice of shit........ he was just askin if it should be made a national language..... not shove it down ur throat... if it was like a law, free classes would be set up and shit...... but in no way shape or form did he say that if u dont know english and u live in america that u r a worthless peice of shit.... thats all i was tryin to say
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 3rd, '06, 05:00

Angie wrote:
dantespyke wrote:So basically your saying people shouldnt be forced to learn English, the langauge that would let them communicate in America because it's hard and "unfair"? It's not bullshit to force people to be at least somewhat intelligent instead of the worthless shit they are now, at least if they learn English they could get a good job and make something of their life.


i was talking about him...


:oops: sorry... my bad
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Postby Kurimoto » Apr 4th, '06, 01:40

it may seem weird to me but when did i say we would force someone to learn engligh...
look up what a national language decree actually does...
no one is forced to learn the language, it is just an official bill that says "america oficially speaks english." i guess you could say we would be forcing some people to learn engligh when they decide to enter this country LEGALLY, but they should. why is it a bad thing to make them learn engligh? no one really says WHY it is bad, all you do is say it is...
culture is not lost, they can speak there native tongue along with engligh
it physically dosent hurt a person to learn it
it would open up otherwise unacceccable opportunities
it would help create a universal conversational method
it would help end some racism as atleast we could communicate together then

why is it bad? and for the love of the worlds one god do not say culture, think of something that is actually serious...everyone loses culture daily and still lives
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Postby Kurimoto » Apr 4th, '06, 02:08

i never advocated treating someone less than a person if they dont learn english
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 4th, '06, 18:23

Clarky '05 wrote:English as a worldwide language isn't fair. If I wasn't English and had to learn it 'coz everyone started speakin it across the world I'd be pissed off so no...



NOT WORLD WIDE...... A NATIONAL LANGUAGE, AS IN ADOPT IT AS AMERICAS OFFICIAL LANGUAGE>>>> NOT EVERYWERE IN THE WORLD. :whistle:
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Postby Hocky27 » Apr 5th, '06, 11:36

Angie wrote:
ines wrote:yes, because it's a languages that you can speak everywhere and that every one can understand.it's just like france langauges, that's one that evry one understand too and that you can speak everywhere


okay that all fine and well but.... wut if u didnt understand english and some ppl told ya.. u have to learn it cuz its a national language now.... :zipped: idk about u but id be like... :zipped: fuck u man...


Umm whats wrong with being told to blend into society ? If your gonna be a citizen of a country learn to speak the language. Only exceptions is if your mentally retarded and its hard enough to speak your own language, or if your old.

The reason we have all this terorist probelms and bullshit is because people come to a country and dont feel they need to blend in. So i say, fuck those people who dont wanna try to learn the language of the country where they have decided to take up residence. We have no need for lazy people like that to come into the country, we all ready have enough lazy fat asses as it is.

I am not saying to not allow people not to speak their own language. But they should know the language.
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