Old Time's Sake> INAD as a Detox song

[mdemaz]

I approve this thread.

[chrismoz]

This arguement is total I cant understand how people even agree with this or why you even think this is remotely a good idea.

OTS is my least listened to track on Relapse and least interesting on Relapse IMO. It's just another filler track. Dre and Em could have done ALOT better. Where is the darkness that accompanied tracks like 3AM, Insane, Same Song & Dance, Medicine Ball, Stay Wide Awake, Underground? OTS is not serious enough and you can easily pin point the lack of effort on both Em and Dre, although the beat is original, I find it largely annoying. This is definitely not an Eminem Dr. Dre song (like the ones mentioned below) that I play on repeat. If they are both perfectionists and think this is a perfect song they must be on some pills. Granted Eminem's flow and multi's are dope, this song lacks substance. I think it's the weakest Em and Dre collaboration after hearing songs like Guilty Conscience, Say What You Say, Forgot About Dre, and Hell Breaks Loose.

I Need A Doctor on the other hand is an awesome song and > OTS for a Detox song. Idiots You should understand that the underlying theme of this song is the perfect track for Detox considering how many years Dre put this project off and changed things. Great single that will generate more sales for Detox because Eminem is on 2 verses.

OTS 5.5-6/10
INAD 9/10 (just because Dre's verse is weak)

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[FreeSpeech]

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^Look, didn't I just make my opinion stronger with the facepalms and /thread?! Amazing!

Dre isn't about substance, he's about banging beats, which INAD does not have. He is about pristine mastering and sound quality, which INAD does not have. INAD isn't a bad song, but if you think it's the type of song that deserves a 12 year hiatus, you're a moron. The audio is trash, and Alex Da Kid can fart out one of those beats every minute. You honestly think Crack a Bottle is better than OTS??? OTS wasn't dark because EVERY OTHER SONG ON RELAPSE WAS ABOUT SERIAL KILLING. You're reasoning INAD will get a lot of sales because Em has two verses? Guess what other song has 2 Em verses? OTS. Any Eminem single will blow up, so that's not a valid argument. Crack A Bottle was very mediocre and it is one of only 4 Em songs to make the #1 spot on the top 100.
As you would say, idiot...

[Rash J]

I see INAD as a glorified intro/skit to Detox. I don't see Dre going that route for that album, so no worries.

[sully10x]

INAD Will be track one and will work on the album.

[Drug.Ballad]

I always liked Old Times Sake, good fun smokin track. I don't want the rest of Detox to sound like INAD either, but one or two deep tracks like it is straight. I actually just started really feeling INAD last night(only listened to the leaks once or twice), just needed a Dre beat.

I need a doctor did need a Dre beat, i dont really like the one it has, i thought it was just because it was leaked so the quality ruined it, but the final version aint much better.

I still really like INAD tho, and would suit the first track on Detox. Old Times Sake is a good song, but just wouldnt have been better than INAD. Nothing special about that track.

Kush is a good song too
We need a release date for Detox and the INAD music video ASAP

[VenomBlackViper]

INAD would only work if it opened Detox, and like other people said Dre should've produced it.
Fuck it though it's a good song (especially when your high)

[Gabriel Br]

Dre doesnt write his own verses lol

[dR3]

I think OTS is trash. That beat doesn't even deserve to exist.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

nope,that song is relapse.

[Demonik_Shark]

LMAO I have to say I agree with you completely! Dre is a producer first, and a rapper second. He wants to make his production stand out further than his vocals.

[chrismoz]

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^Look, didn't I just make my opinion stronger with the facepalms and /thread?! Amazing!

Dre isn't about substance, he's about banging beats, which INAD does not have. He is about pristine mastering and sound quality, which INAD does not have. INAD isn't a bad song, but if you think it's the type of song that deserves a 12 year hiatus, you're a moron. The audio is trash, and Alex Da Kid can fart out one of those beats every minute. You honestly think Crack a Bottle is better than OTS??? OTS wasn't dark because EVERY OTHER SONG ON RELAPSE WAS ABOUT SERIAL KILLING. You're reasoning INAD will get a lot of sales because Em has two verses? Guess what other song has 2 Em verses? OTS. Any Eminem single will blow up, so that's not a valid argument. Crack A Bottle was very mediocre and it is one of only 4 Em songs to make the #1 spot on the top 100.
As you would say, idiot...

You're just simply a moron. I bet you must feel so good because you think you proved me wrong. Yet you basically sound like a noob. Every musician/artist is about substance. You can't be good if you're not about substance. If there's no substance or flavor to a piece of art, it might as well be blank. It's like having pepper without salt, or trying to make macaroni and cheese without cheese. It's like an artist trying to paint without a paint brush. Saying that Dre isn't about substance but rather banging beats and good sound quality shows how much you know about music, which is a form of art.

I said nothing about a 12 year hiatus. I simply mentioned other Eminem and Dre collabs that were better putting OTS at the bottom. I was reasoning Detox getting a lot of sales because Eminem has more commercial appeal then Dr. Dre. I thought maybe loyal, intelligent Eminem fans on this forum would recognize that but maybe I should have been more specific cause people like you take things in the literal sense. Mostly anything with Eminem on it will sell more because people like Eminem and buy things he's associated with. INAD is highly emotional and might as well be Eminem's testimony to Dr. Dre. This song has such a strong message behind it regardless of what you think about the beat. In a nice way, Em is telling Dre to pick up the slack but is able to get that message across with awesome lyrics. OTS lacks a purpose and a personal or emotional message. While it may be a good song to vibe to or a cool original beat with "pristine, mastered" sound-quality (as most CDQ songs are), it's nothing more then a filler, for fun track. Em and Dre basically rap about nothing on that track. It's for fun and it's obvious given the title "Old Time's Sake". All I'm saying is given the track history of Eminem and Dr. Dre collaborations, OTS is at the bottom for me and they could have done ALOT better. I've often wondered by Hell Breaks Loose didn't replace this song.

The content of INAD > the content of OTS - end of story. If you try to argue that you have a neuro-chemical imbalance.

"The audio is trash, and Alex Da Kid can fart out one of those beats every minute." -Great reasoning; an intelligent statement to say the least.

Crack a Bottle has 2 features on it and isn't an Eminem and Dre collaboration. While they did work together, 50 cent still has a verse which makes it Eminem ft. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent. Crack a Bottle and OTS are equally as bad but I'll give the nod to OTS only because of Eminem's unique flow to a mediocre yet original beat. And getting a song to #1 on the charts has nothing to do with quality of the song.

I don't know what point you're trying to prove.

[SMKshady]

Old Time's Sake is perfect for Detox. It basically discusses Dre's past and says they're doing it one more time, for old time's sake (as Detox is the last Dre album). It's a great Dre banger beat. Hell Breaks Loose would also have been great, Dre completely murders his verses. Best I've heard from him (even if they were sped up for him ).

Yes, INAD has good content, but it's not the stuff we (or I at least) want from Dre. The beat is subpar for Dre, the lyrics/delivery is forgettable, it's just not a Dre banger. I don't listen to Dre for deep songs. As Steve Berman said, we listen to Dre to hear about big screen TVs, blunts, 40s, and bitches. I love Kush, not because it has a message, but because I can turn up the bass in my car speakers and roll around with my windows down.

Old Time Sake is great where it's at.

I Need A Doctor is great where it's at.

- Why change a thing about it?.

[zCold]

I see INAD as a glorified intro/skit to Detox. I don't see Dre going that route for that album, so no worries.

Pretty much this. It's an opener. I wouldn't bet on the entire album being full of emotional verses and Alex beats.
Even with that said, seeing as how it's Dre's last album, Id think people would like a few emotional tracks..

[Acid_M]

I fuckin hate INAD. Never mind the fact that practically a love song with homo-erotic undertones, it's not even a Dre beat and doesn't belong on Detox. I know I don't have a right to say what or what doesn't belong on Detox but if there's anything else like that shit, I don't wanna hear it.

Old Time's Sake is better but not by much. The beat sounds like a chronic 2001 throwaway and Em's got that accent going...

Best collab these 2 have done recently was Hell Breaks Loose, that shit was BAWS (emphasis on BAWS)