The Eminem Show vs. Relapse (which is more consistent?)

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I'm sure everyone agrees that out of all his albums, TES and Relapse feature some of his most consistent work (not counting 8 Mile soundtrack). Production-wise, and probably lyrically too. And, it's interesting to note that on TES, Em produced most of it and Dre only produced some of it, while Relapse is the exact opposite. So, which one is more consistent? Does Relapse's storytelling surpass TES' unified sound?

Personally, as far as lyrics go, Relapse is his most consistent album. But, TES, production-wise has an overall mood or sound that makes the album sound smooth and like a complete album. Thoughts?

[ShadyNarkoticz]

TES for me, in both of the categories.

[Satire]

Relapse, in terms of sound, is ruined by Beautiful & Crack A Bottle (You could argue they conceptually fit there but that's not what we're talking about). Beautiful literally sounds like Recovery in a drunken haze, and Crack A Bottle's features and subject matter is just..why?

Everything on TES fits perfectly. He keeps the same vocal range, an overall signature flow (but, at the same time, still keeping it different every track), delivery, etc. all through out the entire album. There are some songs that just aren't that good, but that's not because they don't fit, or because they're lyrically bad, but because of the subject matter. You know which I'm talking about, even though I personally love Drips.

The only lyrically average part on there was his verse on When The Music Stops, but it still fit there.

Relapse, on the hand, was different. It had it's bits of forced rhyming, corny lines, places where the accent didn't work and the 2 songs mentioned above. It is definitely nearly perfect as a concept, but that's it. Nearly. TES is perfect.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Good answer, Satire

[MikeNUFC]

I'm sure everyone agrees that out of all his albums, TES and Relapse feature some of his most consistent work

Personally, as far as lyrics go, Relapse is his most consistent album

No way. SSLP is eassssillllly his most consistent lyrically and MMLP and TES are both more consistent in terms of lyrics.

Relapse has lots of forced rhyming, plenty stupid lines, Beautiful and Crack a Bottle, not to mention having songs with 3 verses that don't collerate and he goes of tangent more than two straight lines side by side.

It has a consistent "feel", in terms of production, but lyrically, nope. Having a song as good lyrically as Deja Vu and then a song as bad lyrically as Beautiful is enough of a contrast, never mind the rest of the album. There's never a big as difference as that on any of his first 3 efforts.

On the actual question - what Satire said.

[EminemBase]

The Eminem Show, by quite a bit.

Relapse is fucked by those two tracks. And... it's so noticeable because the Relapse tracks are so distinct. The beats are so bouncy and weird and his flows are so elastic and particular, so to then have "Beautiful" there... it just fucks it for me. And "Crack a Bottle". Both were made for different albums and it couldn't be more obvious. I can't ever forget that, it's such a dent in the memory / final effect to me.

Where as The Eminem Show, I think every single track works, and bleeds into the next. It's top to bottom consistent and every track sounds like it's from the same sessions. And musically too, even the Dre beats don't stand-out from the Em ones, in fact the production is alot better and bigger than Relapse.

[j04370859]

I'm sure everyone agrees that out of all his albums, TES and Relapse feature some of his most consistent work

Personally, as far as lyrics go, Relapse is his most consistent album

No way. SSLP is eassssillllly his most consistent lyrically and MMLP and TES are both more consistent in terms of lyrics.

Relapse has lots of forced rhyming, plenty stupid lines, Beautiful and Crack a Bottle, not to mention having songs with 3 verses that don't collerate and he goes of tangent more than two straight lines side by side.

It has a consistent "feel", in terms of production, but lyrically, nope. Having a song as good lyrically as Deja Vu and then a song as bad lyrically as Beautiful is enough of a contrast, never mind the rest of the album. There's never a big as difference as that on any of his first 3 efforts.

On the actual question - what Satire said.

How is beautiful lyrically bad?

[xnoxiousx]

Eminem show is much better.

But mmlp stands his best and always will be

[xnoxiousx]

I'm sure everyone agrees that out of all his albums, TES and Relapse feature some of his most consistent work

Personally, as far as lyrics go, Relapse is his most consistent album

No way. SSLP is eassssillllly his most consistent lyrically and MMLP and TES are both more consistent in terms of lyrics.

Relapse has lots of forced rhyming, plenty stupid lines, Beautiful and Crack a Bottle, not to mention having songs with 3 verses that don't collerate and he goes of tangent more than two straight lines side by side.

It has a consistent "feel", in terms of production, but lyrically, nope. Having a song as good lyrically as Deja Vu and then a song as bad lyrically as Beautiful is enough of a contrast, never mind the rest of the album. There's never a big as difference as that on any of his first 3 efforts.

On the actual question - what Satire said.

Beautiful was good song with good meaning for that its great.

[Evan C.]

TES was the master of his craft at work. Everything on that album kinda "fits" you know?

Relapse was the master at work, only he hadn't worked in a while and was clearly no longer able to perform like he had previously...sort of like Mike Tyson after he went to prison.