Recovery Theory

[shadyboymez]

SMH at ppl who love anything that Eminem releases

[Master Chief]

To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.

fuck this emotionally driven thing y'all use :@ it's not that he made emotions that we think he sold out

SHAKE MY FUCKIN HEAD

he can still make emotional songs like he did without chaning his style, Mockingbird, Hailie's Song, Cleanin Out My Closet, all of those weren't emotionals? yet they still sound like him

Beautiful was fuckin emotional, yet still sounded like him

now he uses corny punchlines and metaphores inspired by young money, and shouts all the fuckin time in a horrible way, yes he shouted in the MMLP era too, but it's a whole different thing, listen to The Way I Am and how dope it is and compare it to his new stuff.....

Get over it, he sold out

Where does he shout in an annoying way in Recovery? That's honestly the most retarded, invalid excuse to not like Recovery.

[classthe_king]

Dismiss class_theking. He has listened to Recovery ONCE and has never listened to it again. Plus, he never finished Cold Wind Blows or listened to Untitled.

His opinion/posts/views/thoughts should not be taken seriously or considered in a debate or dissusion about Eminem or Recovery in particular.

I've listened to it enough to be able to have an established opinion on it and beat any of you guys in an argument

[xxTrigger1989xx]

@Trigger

ok let's say relapse is bad (according to class) and he needs to change

WHY THE FUCK DID HE CHANGE TO WORSE :@ :@ :@ :@

Honestly, whether or not he changed for the worse depends on which Eminem YOU prefer. If you like the crazy, Slim Shady guy, then Relapse is your jams. If you like the serious, emotional Eminem, well, you'll love Recovery. It's just two different types of Em fans out of like the four types lmao

[classthe_king]

To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.

I don't like Relapse either.

You've been defending it because it's "less mainstream" than Recovery

Sounds to me like you just simply hate anything mainstream
That's the fucking point we try to make every time, and you totally ignore it because you think you're right all the time. SMH. Fuck this argument

I've never defedned Relapse

The assumptions people on this board makes astonishes me. I don't hate anything mainstram, I hate anything that's not good. Sorry that's Eminem now

[Master Chief]

To the people that suck Relapse's dick: Do you think 3 AM was Eminem? Honestly. He's acting like a serial killer in a middle eastern accent. Is THAT Eminem?

What about Insane?

Seriously, Eminem rapping in an accent is NOT Eminem. Relapse is just as non-Eminem as Recovery. Just because he's being crazy again doesn't mean anything because in that case Recovery is just as Eminem because he's being emotionally driven.

Your logic sucks.

It's Eminem showing he can rhyme amazingly again. It shows he can still write well. It's the beat selection. It's the cool flows.

Recovery didn't sound like an Eminem album because of the shitty beat selection, his writin style (bar-splitting is so amateur) and his weak flows. It's still decent but Relapse sounds more like Eminem.

Not because of the content, because of the execution.

Your logic 'sucks'.

I completely disagree with saying Relapse sounds like Eminem. The simple fact that the accent is present makes it less "Eminem".

And flows has nothing to do with it. If they're weak to you, cool. But, Eminem always changes his flows anyways so, no.

[Scrubz]

What the fuck lmao? None of these were good points at all. Relapse has sold over 4.5 million copes. He didn't need to make a shitty mainstream album to let people know he was back. If Eminem created a raw Hip-Hop maserpiece it deffinitely would have sold. Maybe not as much but Eminem's rich so who gives a shit. You're excuse for this album is fucking laughable.

Thing is, he lost quite a few fans while he was on hiatus, and he needed a more appealing album than Relapse to gain those & more new fans back.

Did he sell out? Without a doubt.

How did he sell out? By doing a few collabs with artists that are not in the rap industry?

Has he gone soft? Deffinitely.

How did he go soft? Listen to Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, Almost Famous, Cinderella Man, So Bad, Untitled... The man still has the ability to impress.

Is he mainstream? For sure now

For sure now? He has sold more than 80 million copies worldwide, he has been mainstream since he signed to Aftermath.

Is his music good? Hell no.

Some of it still is.

Can he still spit hot fire? Absolutely not.

Yes he can, I'm gonna list the songs I mentioned above - CWB, On Fire, Almost Famous...

Haha completely agree, class just hates em. Don know why he is on a fan site but hey what ever floats his boat.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I've never defedned Relapse

The assumptions people on this board makes astonishes me. I don't hate anything mainstram, I hate anything that's not good. Sorry that's Eminem now

Then what fucking "point" are you trying to make then? That you don't like Eminem anymore? That's really fantastic, in that case, you're wasting your time on this side of the forum. You can go to Studio Leaks, most of them hate Eminem and hate Stans even more, so that's perfect for you

[xxTrigger1989xx]

@Trigger

ok let's say relapse is bad (according to class) and he needs to change

WHY THE FUCK DID HE CHANGE TO WORSE :@ :@ :@ :@

Honestly, whether or not he changed for the worse depends on which Eminem YOU prefer. If you like the crazy, Slim Shady guy, then Relapse is your jams. If you like the serious, emotional Eminem, well, you'll love Recovery. It's just two different types of Em fans out of like the four types lmao

I LOVE EMOTIONAL EM!!!

TES IS AMAZING!!

I am not talkin bout the content SMH!!

I'm talkin bout lyrics, delivery and execution...

Well, as far as lyrics go, half of the songs are emotional, half of them are "punchline-ey". And GTC and 25TL and all those good songs have GREAT lyrics to me. Obviously Recovery isn't better than TES, but I don't expect that. I expect him to make great music, and I still think he's making great music.

[classthe_king]

I've never defedned Relapse

The assumptions people on this board makes astonishes me. I don't hate anything mainstram, I hate anything that's not good. Sorry that's Eminem now

Then what fucking "point" are you trying to make then? That you don't like Eminem anymore? That's really fantastic, in that case, you're wasting your time on this side of the forum. You can go to Studio Leaks, most of them hate Eminem and hate Stans even more, so that's perfect for you

You're right, I don't like Eminem anymore. And I know that I'm wasting my time because you guys are the most close minded fucks ever but Dr3 told me post here

[Scrubz]

Everyone stfu with the smh, y'all sound like a bunch of faggots getting all butt hurt over other peoples opinions. If you don't like recovery good for you, this thread wasn't asking if you did or not. Y'all just a bunch of know it alls behind a computer monitor.

[MikeNUFC]

I completely disagree with saying Relapse sounds like Eminem. The simple fact that the accent is present makes it less "Eminem".

And flows has nothing to do with it. If they're weak to you, cool. But, Eminem always changes his flows anyways so, no.

Okay X'ed Up/ChronicJon/2sday.

Of coure flows have something to do with it. It's not about changing the flows (that's fine), it's about what the new ones are like. And for the most part they are pretty poor on Recovery, you can barely pick up his rhymes because his flow is scattered all over the place. It's the lazy writing that's the problem directly linked to the flows.



Also, Relapse is far more 'mature' (this is used so fucking much on this board) than Recovery. He was a more mature lyricist on Relapse, regardless of what you think of the content.

This section is getting to a stage where you cannot be negative about EMinem - it's fucking bullshit. The people who criticise Eminem, for the most part, are usually very constructive with their points, whether negative or positivie. The people who masterbate over every new Eminem release are the ones who usually hardly ever back up their points and go "stopppp criticizing eminemz, if you isnt a fan den get of the board!!1" (of course that's not everyone, there are a few who aren't like that)

[classthe_king]

Everyone stfu with the smh, y'all sound like a bunch of faggots getting all butt hurt over other peoples opinions. If you don't like recovery good for you, this thread wasn't asking if you did or not. Y'all just a bunch of know it alls behind a vomited monitor.

I simply responded as to why the OP was wrong.

Hop off my dick

[dR3]

Why does he need all these new teeny boppers as fans? Wouldn't he rather appeal to hip-hop fans with a good album?

Recovery didn't gain him only "teeny boppers" fans, it gained him the fans that had previously lost faith in him.

Don't tell me to listen to Recovery lmao, that album is bullshit and all those songs suck. Just because this forum and all the 15 year old girls of America like it and bought it doesn't mean its good. I've been going to a lot of other Hip-Hop forums recently and NONE of them like Eminem or Recovery now. It's just this site cause you guys are all blind stans

The songs that I mentioned are definitely don't suck, you're just trying to sound cool.

but Dr3 told me post here

Woah, what?

[Scrubz]

Everyone stfu with the smh, y'all sound like a bunch of faggots getting all butt hurt over other peoples opinions. If you don't like recovery good for you, this thread wasn't asking if you did or not. Y'all just a bunch of know it alls behind a vomited monitor.

I simply responded as to why the OP was wrong.

Hop off my dick

I'm not on ur dick I wasn't even talking to ur egotistical ass. And how is some one wrong on a "theory" why don't u go look up the word first. It's a matter opinion, no right or wrong.