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Postby Ivy » Apr 8th, '06, 00:33

> Evil _ MoNkEy < wrote:im glad i discust u... just so u know... obeese people find anorexic ppl discusting and unhealthy...... and its wrong to say that ur parioniod ur gonna end up like us cus thats nuthin but fuckin bullshit :angry:


Anna, you know I didn't mean it like that. I just don't like it when I see obese people who say they're trying to lose weight when they're not doing anything at all. Or I despise obese people who eat and eat and eat and just don't care about their weight and how disgusting they look. And I know how it feels to be singled out, not because I'm over weight, but because I'm underweight. I ain't like you can see my hips sucked in and shit like that, I'm not that bad yet. But I like to maintain what I see a fit body, and the body I have I don't see fit. I know I disgust some people, it don't phase me. I wasn't just singling out you Anna, you should know me better than that.
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Postby Christina » Apr 8th, '06, 00:37

ok so i gotta go now..(again) see you at the zombieland LMAO ! :laughing:
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 8th, '06, 01:38

yall need to be nice to obeese ppl..... cus..... for one... hardly nebody here knows shit about it.... and 2..... its hurtful :'(

o.... and TiGGi... my bfs 6'4 and 120..... hes not anorexic...... but um ya...... and it kinda hurts wen u say "how discusting obeese ppl r" so.... u think u could try to put it a bit nicer?

my point is..... ppl r people, and we all look diferent.... and its wrong to judge others who r different from u
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 8th, '06, 01:52

omg.... ppl.... ok, if ur fat... ur not healthy. period.

obeeseity is a sickness..... and its just like anorexia, only reverse...... instead of not wanting to eat.... u wanna eat..... and this isnt sumthin im makin up. over eating is a EATING DISORDER, and its extremely hard to break.... food becums an addiction... and it starts wen ur young..... wen a baby crys... wat do u give it? a bottle..... so wen were little, we recognize food as a comfort and a way to feel beter...... and wen ur older, and u get sad..... u eat..... but sum ppl have a hard time controling that..... and if ur an emotional eater (like me) wen ur depressed u eat, and then after u eat, u feel bad... cus u know u shouldnt have eaten, so u get depressed..... and u do it again...... its a visious cycle...... and the fact that u have to deal with critism from adults and peers.... not to mention brutal and pointless harrasment and degrading insults and humiliation.... and that all adds up on top of ur own self hate... cus nobody who is obeese likes how they look....... its hard fight becus ur constantly finding urself back were u started
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 8th, '06, 02:01

g_killa wrote:...thats the reason i dont come in here ppl get emotional its stupid




who the fuck is getting emotional? ........ i was explaining wat obeeseity is....... how the fuck is that getting emotional?
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 8th, '06, 02:03

g_killa wrote:
> Evil _ MoNkEy < wrote:yall need to be nice to obeese ppl..... cus..... for one... hardly nebody here knows shit about it.... and 2..... its hurtful :'(




[size=12][color=darkred][b]o...... that... just ignore me...... be as mean as u want.... i dont give a fuck....... ull have to excuse me...... im tender hearted
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 8th, '06, 02:07

g_killa wrote:btw its actually not as hard as you make out you control ya hand right then you stop eating with it. at the end of the day ive learnt cotrol your actions and you can do whatever and doin that is easy




yes... i know that... but thats the thing..... self control is a problem wen u dont have ne..... actually... im starting to think the fat is just clogging my brain..........but its not that easy... its like smoking... its hard to quit... its an addiction
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Postby MuNxMuN » Apr 8th, '06, 02:22

I've been anorexic before and it really isn't a fun thing to go through :( i used to be anorexic when i was lil and it wasn't to look better i just never ate cause i never felt like eating for some reason. :unsure: I also know how it's like to eat continously cause i do it most of the time when i'm down or just bored cause i have nothing to do. I can sit there and eat a whole bag of chips when I'm depressed cause it helps me feel better. :p Obease people can't control their eating habits cause when you eat you always want more cause you always feel hungry. I agree that people should try to eat less but it's not an easy thing to do. Believe me I've tried :sweating:
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Postby neha » Apr 8th, '06, 11:49

> Evil _ MoNkEy < wrote:
neha wrote:weight has become a real problem these days....people, specially teenagers want to become very very thin and all cuz they think that that is the only way to look good and stuff...there are also many ppl who have become very fat and don't care...67% of the ppl in the united states are not healthy cuz of their weight...i think that ppl who care TOOO much about there weight and do stupid things are ''wrong'' but also ppl who don't care cuz we all know that too much fat is not good for your health...I want to know what you all think???

i have to be honest, there was a time in my life( not so long ago) that i was dieting too much to become very thin, but now i know better it's stupid :tounge2: i wasted a lot of time and energy in this shit and i regret it every day :(



u know... i already had a topic similar to this.... it was called DESCRIMINATION AGAINST THE OBEESE

to say fat people dont care is mean and judgemental and wrong...... and i think u need to check out that thread :angry: pll need to quit hatin on the obeese Keyword: obeese <-- that is the proper term for wat u guys like to call "fat" ppl


i'm sorry, i won't use the word ''fat'' again :( and i don't mean it like that, cuz when you watch tv and those shows where other ppl help someone to lose weight..the person always sais: i don't care if i'm healthy or not, i just wanna enjoy food..i think that's really wrong :angry: you should care about your health...it can be really dangerous..but i don't want to say that ALL the ppl with weight problems are like that, but there are a few...if you eat nothing to stay skinny that's really bad and wrong but if you don't care and eat as much as you want(unhealthy) that's wrong too
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 8th, '06, 21:47

^^^ ok... i get wat ur sayin..... but u should go to page 2 and read wat i wrote about obeisity. its a sickness and eating disorder just like anorexia..... and i know all about it cus im sumone who has to deal with it everyday. and if uve never been obeese... u have no idea wat its like. and i say dont use the word fat, cus theres a difference between fat and obeese.

fat = just a little over weight and just got sum squishy baby fat.

obeese = 20% or more above ur ideal body weight

morbidly obeese = 100 or more pounds over weight


im just sayin...... its a very different thing to be fat and to be obeese...... and nobody who is obeese wants to be that way. they may choose it by the choices they make (altho sum dont..... they have complex conditions such as diabetes, or a thiroid glan disorder) ........ but beleive me..... no one enjoys bein imprisioned in their own body fat and put up with descrimination and humiliation and mortifying harrassment and insults.
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Postby neha » Apr 8th, '06, 22:29

> Evil _ MoNkEy < wrote:^^^ ok... i get wat ur sayin..... but u should go to page 2 and read wat i wrote about obeisity. its a sickness and eating disorder just like anorexia..... and i know all about it cus im sumone who has to deal with it everyday. and if uve never been obeese... u have no idea wat its like. and i say dont use the word fat, cus theres a difference between fat and obeese.

fat = just a little over weight and just got sum squishy baby fat.

obeese = 20% or more above ur ideal body weight

morbidly obeese = 100 or more pounds over weight


im just sayin...... its a very different thing to be fat and to be obeese...... and nobody who is obeese wants to be that way. they may choose it by the choices they make (altho sum dont..... they have complex conditions such as diabetes, or a thiroid glan disorder) ........ but beleive me..... no one enjoys bein imprisioned in their own body fat and put up with descrimination and humiliation and mortifying harrassment and insults.


didn't know that...i thought fat and obeese were the same thing :unsure: i never had to deal with that but i have a friend that has some problems with her weight and i know it's hard...there are always ppl who act stupid and say things that are really hurtfull.....
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Postby Ivy » Apr 8th, '06, 22:40

Anna, you know I didn't mean to be so harsh. Being sick, Aneroxic, like I am, you know I have a fedish, or obession, with weight and gaining weight. So what I see, might not be exactly as the person is. When I look in the mirror, I see an overweight me, but according to people around me, they see someone who is in dier need of help. But I still don't see it. So, maybe one day'll I'll see different, but right now, I don't. Sorry, next time I'll try to not be so offensive towards the overweight and obese. :flower:
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Postby $0 R3@L » Apr 8th, '06, 23:28

if ur fat,your fat.
if ur thin,ur thin.
if ur a fitness freak,ur a fitness freak.
if ur a lazy bastard,ur a lazy bastard.

except who you are and quit bitching. :smoking:
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Apr 8th, '06, 23:51

$0 R3@L wrote:if ur fat,your fat.
if ur thin,ur thin.
if ur a fitness freak,ur a fitness freak.
if ur a lazy bastard,ur a lazy bastard.

except who you are and quit bitching. :smoking:



^^^well put :flower: and very wise.... and i really dont see wat the big deal is with everything..... i mean... no matter wat... ppl r ppl.....

but i know wat u mean TiGGi... and im sorry..... i dont mean to take it so personal.... and my sister was anorexic.... so i kinda know wat ur goin thro... and she used to look at me in discust, cus she didnt wanna be fat like me... and she was afraid and shit.... she wouldnt eat, no matter how we tried. so we had her hospitalized...... and she got better. and im sorry that ur goin thro all that.... and if ppl around u think u need help, u should really listen... becus they care about u and want u to get better.... and i think is speak for everyone here wen i say we want u to get better too. and i know its not ur fault, cus its a disorder that u cant really control.... but its not impossable, and i know u can get better.... but its sumthin ur gonna struggle with the rest of ur life, so its never gonna be easy. but now my sister has liver damage becus of how she used to be, and i really dont wanna see that happen to u. i mean..... ur young and u got ur whole life ahead of u, and it just..... its hard to hear about wat ur goin thro. but i care... and if u ever need me, im here for u.
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Postby Ivy » Apr 9th, '06, 00:28

Thanks Anna. Yeah, my father, his fiancee', and my psychatrist, yes I see one, are thinking about hospitalizing me at NC Chapel Hill's Eating Disorder Clinic. I see myself sometimes tiny as a broom, and I can see what my father and what everyone is complaining about, but then I look in the mirror and study myself long and hard, and I see someone who is on the heavier side. I have a lot of problems, I have to leave all my books in my classes because I don't have the strength to carry them anymore, it's just to hard. My dad doesn't cook for me anymore, because he knows I won't eat it or I'll just pick through it. When we go to restruants like Golden Corral, or Ryans, or some kind of buffet restraunt, my dad will talk to the manager before paying so he can get me on the 12 and under list, because I don't eat 12 dollars worth of food, I sometimes can get it free if the manager is understanding enough. I eat the fattiest of foods aswell, chocolate, cereal, junk food, and all that, and it's all I eat. It suprises everyone that I don't gain weight, and everyone says they wish they were like me. I tell them don't ever wish something like that, because you don't want to go what I go through, and I certainly don't want you to be in my shoes, because you don't know what it's like. We were in Walmart today buying groceries, and we me and my dad were loading up on 2 liters when I reached up to grab one, my shoulder popped out of socket. My dad slammed it back into place and walked off towards the men's restroom, I could tell he'd been crying when he got back and finished shopping. I admit, sometimes I want help, and I'll ask for it, but my dad says just eat, there's your help. I try to convince him it's not that easy, and when he turns me down like that, I just say fuck it, and don't want help. You know. And thanks Anna, I'm sorry about your sister, and thanks for being understanding. :'( :flower:
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