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Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Scrubz » Mar 3rd, '11, 23:54

it's supposed to be like that, he's dwelling on the death of his best friend, he's supposed to sound vulnerable and desperate, that made the song perfect

the example i gave earlier

that jacket u left at my wedding, I picked it up to smell it

and the part bout em getting a sunburn and proof not cause he's black

he didn't use good rhyming, but he used the perfect words


I'm sorry but when i listen to music i want it sound good and rhyme. If i wanna hear perfect words put together I will read a book.
Eminem is talented enough to put both together (being lyrically dope and having DEEP meaning) for example:
Stan is one the most emotional song's he did, not the best rhymes but scheme was great and overall its leaps and bounds better than this.
To me if difficult had a better rhyme scheme it would have been Great, and therefor released. IMO
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Scrubz » Mar 3rd, '11, 23:55

Lello wrote:
MCSam wrote:simple or complex rhyming w/e :coffee: the words were strong enough to evoke that emotion that most other so called lyrical rappers fail to do ?!!?
10/10 from me . :y:


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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby slimshadylappin » Mar 3rd, '11, 23:55

This clearly shows on a track like Going Through Changes. There are no punchlines. Just emotion, rhyming and storytelling and its imo his best song since his comeback.
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Dmann » Mar 3rd, '11, 23:58

MikeNUFC wrote:Eminem is not a punchline rapper. Simple as that.


Eminem spent his whole life as a battle rapper how is he anything short of a punchline rapper? He has been using punchlines his whole career. Although I know what you are trying to say, and I agree with you. Its not the punchlines that's new, it is his delivery. When you listen to him in what I would say was his prime (D12 days) his flow and delivery seemed effortless. Rhyming was so natural to him and he knew how to rock the mic. Not to say he has lost a step, but he is surrounded by punchline underground rappers now. He wants to outdo them at what they do best, and at the same time prove to the world he is the baddest on the mic by shouting everything. He needs to switch his delivery back to TES, it was so smooth
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby HereHere » Mar 4th, '11, 00:01

MCSam wrote:tell me the last verse is not perfect c'mon son :coffee:
it's really the best track of the leaks should have made it to recovery . :worship:


All I hear is a drugged up man crying over a beat. Don't get me wrong, I like the song, but in terms of rhyming it's not good.

DanWS wrote:Technically it's not good because it's not meant to be. There's not any attempt to use multies or come up with cool rhyme patterns or metaphors.

But the lyrics are great because the lyrics tell a story and evoke emotion. Similar to I Need A Doctor, it's a storytelling song and the lyrics permeate with me personally much more than other songs that are aimed to show off his technical skill.


I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? I really hope you guys are trolling here. There's no attempt to use multies cause he was too fucked up on drugs to think of any. Em has done plenty emotional songs with amazing rhyming, that's what makes him good. Just look at Rock Bottom, or INAD. I Need a Doctor had great rhyming throughout it.

Lello wrote:ok

but IMO, this track is better cause it have worse rhyming than usual, it displays the pain more


... :laughing:
Yeah, the track having worse rhyming is clearly a positive thing, it was truly done on purpose. :facepalm
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Master Chief » Mar 4th, '11, 00:02

IMO that thumbtack punch is clever.
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Sam. » Mar 4th, '11, 00:08

FUCK THE HATERZ AND THE STUPID PEOPLE WHO SAID SHIT QUOTING ME . :facepalm
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Scrubz » Mar 4th, '11, 00:09

HereHere wrote:
MCSam wrote:tell me the last verse is not perfect c'mon son :coffee:
it's really the best track of the leaks should have made it to recovery . :worship:


All I hear is a drugged up man crying over a beat. Don't get me wrong, I like the song, but in terms of rhyming it's not good.

DanWS wrote:Technically it's not good because it's not meant to be. There's not any attempt to use multies or come up with cool rhyme patterns or metaphors.

But the lyrics are great because the lyrics tell a story and evoke emotion. Similar to I Need A Doctor, it's a storytelling song and the lyrics permeate with me personally much more than other songs that are aimed to show off his technical skill.


I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? I really hope you guys are trolling here. There's no attempt to use multies cause he was too fucked up on drugs to think of any. Em has done plenty emotional songs with amazing rhyming, that's what makes him good. Just look at Rock Bottom, or INAD. I Need a Doctor had great rhyming throughout it.

Lello wrote:ok

but IMO, this track is better cause it have worse rhyming than usual, it displays the pain more


... :laughing:
Yeah, the track having worse rhyming is clearly a positive thing, it was truly done on purpose. :facepalm

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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby HereHere » Mar 4th, '11, 00:13

Lello wrote:I never thought it was on purpose, but it surley does more good for the song...
I'd rather have Em dwelling pouring his heart out with simple lyrics, than having a dope punch or multi-syllable that partially reflects what he's feeling


Uh...since when did it have to only partially reflect what he's feeling if there's multis? Look at Rock Bottom, pure emotion, yet amazing rhyming.

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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Sam. » Mar 4th, '11, 00:16

Lello wrote:
I never thought it was on purpose, but it surley does more good for the song...
I'd rather have Em dwelling pouring his heart out with simple lyrics, than having a dope punch or multi-syllable that partially reflects what he's feeling

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LOL WAT?
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby buffalo bill » Mar 4th, '11, 00:18

Some people :facepalm2
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby Sam. » Mar 4th, '11, 00:22

buffalo bill wrote:Some people :facepalm2

Why you mad tho?
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 4th, '11, 00:25

he's not as good as any member of Slaughterhouse or Lil Wayne at doing punchlines but I still think it's cool...so I have no beef with Eminem being a punchline rapper. It's a new style for him and I like it at times.
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby DanWS » Mar 4th, '11, 01:34

HereHere wrote:
DanWS wrote:Technically it's not good because it's not meant to be. There's not any attempt to use multies or come up with cool rhyme patterns or metaphors.

But the lyrics are great because the lyrics tell a story and evoke emotion. Similar to I Need A Doctor, it's a storytelling song and the lyrics permeate with me personally much more than other songs that are aimed to show off his technical skill.


I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? I really hope you guys are trolling here. There's no attempt to use multies cause he was too fucked up on drugs to think of any. Em has done plenty emotional songs with amazing rhyming, that's what makes him good. Just look at Rock Bottom, or INAD. I Need a Doctor had great rhyming throughout it.


Why would I be kidding you? I said it's not meant to be good technically, how can you dispute that? You really think the only reason he aint using multies in Difficult is because he is on drugs? And that otherwise the song would've been full of them? That's almost nonsensical. The song would've sounded ridiculous with multies in there. He is pouring is heart out, can't even bring himself to say the word "casket" but he's supposed to use multies in there? LOL no. I'm not saying the rhyming was amazing, I'm saying there wasn't meant to be any multies or complex metaphors in Difficult because it would have sounded stupid. For anyone to tell me different I just can't bring myself to believe.
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Re: Eminem Needs To Play To His Strengths - Not Punchlines!

Postby HereHere » Mar 4th, '11, 01:37

DanWS wrote:Why would I be kidding you? I said it's not meant to be good technically, how can you dispute that? You really think the only reason he aint using multies in Difficult is because he is on drugs? And that otherwise the song would've been full of them? That's almost nonsensical. The song would've sounded ridiculous with multies in there. He is pouring is heart out, can't even bring himself to say the word "casket" but he's supposed to use multies in there? LOL no. I'm not saying the rhyming was amazing, I'm saying there wasn't meant to be any multies or complex metaphors in Difficult because it would have sounded stupid. For anyone to tell me different I just can't bring myself to believe.


...I really hope people on here are trolling, seriously. If not, people on this site are stupid as fuck, that's not opinion, it's fact. Why would an emotional song with multies sound worse than one without multis :laughing: Just because it's emotional doesn't mean it can't have good rhyming. If that's the case then every emotional song Em did before he got addicted would've been so much better without the multis, right?

The random, stupid songs Em was doing at the time had next to no multis in them because he could barely write, you really think this one is any different?
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