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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Kez » Mar 8th, '11, 02:28

I'd also just like to point something out that amused me that i just noticed by re-reading that thread. All the people who were like "he put Rihanna on the song cause of the history behind it blah blah blah", I find it funny that in the end, he didn't; Skylar Grey did it first and they decided putting Rihanna on it would sell more. I was fucking right, as i told yall. :smoking:
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Master Chief » Mar 8th, '11, 02:29

Kez wrote:My God you're so ignorant lmao

I already judged it "as a song", if you check the link i posted i spent fucking 5 pages writing long ass posts dissecting why i don't like it (as some did saying why they do like it, hence why it's such a good thread, it evens out), and many agreed with me. I aint repeating that, especially not when you won't accept it as valid in the first place.

I'm not asking YOU to judge it as a song lmao. Cool, you judged it as a song, if you truly don't like it, okay great but if external reasons make you hate the song then you should hang yourself. And if you weren't so fucking blind you could see the part of my post where I pretty much said "IF YOU JUDGE IT LIKE A SONG AND FORGET ALL STUPID-ASS EXTERNAL REASONS TO HATE THE SONG THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT".

If stupid girls playing LTWYL is NOT a problem THEN WHY THE FUCK IS IT ALWAYS BROUGHT UP? And no, girls don't play We Made You as much as LTWYL. Wanna know why? Because LTWYL is about LOVE. I haven't seen, heard, heard a female bumping 3 AM or Old Time's Sake in my life so no. If those songs had to do with love then yes it could happen.


Kez wrote:Oh i didn't realise all women are vacuous cunts who can't broaden their musical tastes outside of romantic ballads. Nice sexism there

MOST teeny-boppers. If you can't acknowledge the fact that most 15 year old girls are attracted to love songs then you're a fucktard. Do you seriously expect a teenager or a grown woman to bump MMLP like they would do to LTWYL? Really?
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby M-Pyre » Mar 8th, '11, 02:35

because "love you more" is basically the same damn song and it's allot better!
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Kez » Mar 8th, '11, 02:37

Master Chief wrote:MOST teeny-boppers. If you can't acknowledge the fact that most 15 year old girls are attracted to love songs then you're a fucktard. Do you seriously expect a teenager or a grown woman to bump MMLP like they would do to LTWYL? Really?


Nope, but i also don't expect Eminem to pander to that kind of audience when he has 10 years of music behind him and an established audience to stand by him. He's in the rare position that he can make whatever music he wants and still sell and be one of the most popular figures in music. Lady GaGa? She's never gonna make anything except pseudo-intellectual weird shit with lyrics that ultimately mean fuck all. Justin Bieber? He's never gonna make anything past pre-pubescent songs about how much he loves that random girl who's got him in her iTunes library. They can't strafe out of their safety zones, because that's where they make their money and that's what their audience expects. But Em? He came back and did Relapse (which went fucking double Platinum), an album which we all know rocked the boat a little and he filled most of Recovery with lyricism and unique ideas (LTWYL being the exception), which just proves my point. So why pander to this audience? It's not like he needs the attention or the sales. Recovery was the best selling album of 2010, but do you honestly believe that all the girls who only know him for Love The Way You Lie went out and bought it? Of course not! That's like saying I've bought Professor Green's album just because i liked Just Be Good to Green. (Bit random I know but the example works)
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby xnoxiousx » Mar 8th, '11, 02:37

Master Chief wrote:
Kez wrote:This thread is clearly pointless from the get go. Before anyone has barely posted you're already trying to make out peoples' reasons for not liking the song are somehow incorrect and invalid. Plus, you are clearly the type to be like "omg Eminem is the best fuck u the song is great", and obviously the only reason you made this thread is so you could tell people why they are somehow wrong for not liking the song.

I said "JUDGE IT AS A SONG". Why teh fuck does it matter if 500,000 girls per square fucking mile like the song? If the song gets major apraissal once it's leaked but after it becomes a single loved by teeny-bopper girls suddenly it sucks then you're crossing the song out because of external reasons.

@xnoxious, you're bipolar. You said, at first Relapse > Recovery then you're bipolar, indecicived ass said it's his 4th best :confusion:, please shut the fuck up.

You mad?

Ill admit at first i hated recovery then it grew on me.]

but i still hate love the way you lie no matter what.
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Manly Moose » Mar 8th, '11, 02:44

Manly Moose wrote:I think this is the only song on Recovery where the yelling delivery works extremely well. I also think the reason some fans don't like this is because it doesnt song like a hip hop songs. I like and listen to multiple genres and I think the production on this song is great, but to hiphop heads it probably sucks.

I wouldn't call it Hip Pop, but its more like an awesome combo of country, rap, and pop. This song has great story telling and I see it as a classic.


I still feel my explanation is the best :wave:


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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby rinnie1207 » Mar 8th, '11, 02:45

I love LTWYL, and I have ever since I first heard it. The 3rd verse is my favorite part of the song. I do find it annoying when 13 year old girls post the lyrics as their status on FB, and when you ask them what their favorite Eminem song is they say LTWYL or Not Afraid. But that doesn't make me love the songs any less or make me not want to listen to them.

Master Chief wrote:MOST teeny-boppers. If you can't acknowledge the fact that most 15 year old girls are attracted to love songs then you're a fucktard. Do you seriously expect a teenager or a grown woman to bump MMLP like they would do to LTWYL? Really?

I do...I'm 20 but I started listening to Em when I was 12. While all my friends were listening to 'N Sync I was listening to Em.
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Master Chief » Mar 8th, '11, 02:46

Kez wrote:
Master Chief wrote:MOST teeny-boppers. If you can't acknowledge the fact that most 15 year old girls are attracted to love songs then you're a fucktard. Do you seriously expect a teenager or a grown woman to bump MMLP like they would do to LTWYL? Really?


Nope, but i also don't expect Eminem to pander to that kind of audience when he has 10 years of music behind him and an established audience to stand by him. He's in the rare position that he can make whatever music he wants and still sell and be one of the most popular figures in music. Lady GaGa? She's never gonna make anything except pseudo-intellectual weird shit with lyrics that ultimately mean fuck all. Justin Bieber? He's never gonna make anything past pre-pubescent songs about how much he loves that random girl who's got him in her iTunes library. They can't strafe out of their safety zones, because that's where they make their money and that's what their audience expects. But Em? He came back and did Relapse (which went fucking double Platinum), an album which we all know rocked the boat a little and he filled most of Recovery with lyricism and unique ideas (LTWYL being the exception), which just proves my point. So why pander to this audience? It's not like he needs the attention or the sales. Recovery was the best selling album of 2010, but do you honestly believe that all the girls who only know him for Love The Way You Lie went out and bought it? Of course not! That's like saying I've bought Professor Green's album just because i liked Just Be Good to Green. (Bit random I know but the example works)

We can't know for sure as to what Em was trying to appeal to. What if Em was listening to some conscious rap and decided to make a song with a good message for a change? What if he was listening to Kim and said "Damn, look how far I've gotten" and got his pen and wrote the opposite to what Kim stands for? Honestly, a song about abusive relationships shouldn't appeal to teeny-bopper girls because it's a controversial, serious issue. But, because Rihanna sings a catchy chorus (doesn't mean that was her purpose on the song) and because Em is rapping about love they fucking like it lmao. We BOTH can't say for sure but there are some possibilities that could've inspired Em to make that song. Em could've EASILY made a club song or a watered down song about love. Key word: watered down.
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Kez » Mar 8th, '11, 02:53

Master Chief wrote:We can't know for sure as to what Em was trying to appeal to. What if Em was listening to some conscious rap and decided to make a song with a good message for a change? What if he was listening to Kim and said "Damn, look how far I've gotten" and got his pen and wrote the opposite to what Kim stands for? Honestly, a song about abusive relationships shouldn't appeal to teeny-bopper girls because it's a controversial, serious issue. But, because Rihanna sings a catchy chorus (doesn't mean that was her purpose on the song) and because Em is rapping about love they fucking like it lmao. We BOTH can't say for sure but there are some possibilities that could've inspired Em to make that song. Em could've EASILY made a club song or a watered down song about love. Key word: watered down.


Rihanna's purpose on the song was clearly to sell, because as i said Skylar Grey did it first and sent it to Em. And don't try and suggest Rihanna was chosen because Rihanna can sing better than Skylar cause that's just fuckin stupid and you know it isn't true lol. As for the origins of the song, who knows you could be right, but the Rihanna side of it was entirely sales orientated, for the reasons above.

And it's my opinion that LTWYL is watered down, but i've been through that shit on the other thread and i really can't be arsed.
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby slimshadylappin » Mar 8th, '11, 02:57

Nothing wrong with the song. People are mad about the Rhianna collaboration and make up stupid things as an excuse as to why they don't like it.
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Kez » Mar 8th, '11, 02:59

slimshadylappin wrote:Nothing wrong with the song. People are mad about the Rhianna collaboration and make up stupid things as an excuse as to why they don't like it.


Oh my god you people are pigheaded as fuck, is it so hard to believe people don't like it just as a song?
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby slimshadylappin » Mar 8th, '11, 03:00

rinnie1207 wrote:I love LTWYL, and I have ever since I first heard it. The 3rd verse is my favorite part of the song. I do find it annoying when 13 year old girls post the lyrics as their status on FB, and when you ask them what their favorite Eminem song is they say LTWYL or Not Afraid. But that doesn't make me love the songs any less or make me not want to listen to them.

Master Chief wrote:MOST teeny-boppers. If you can't acknowledge the fact that most 15 year old girls are attracted to love songs then you're a fucktard. Do you seriously expect a teenager or a grown woman to bump MMLP like they would do to LTWYL? Really?

I do...I'm 20 but I started listening to Em when I was 12. While all my friends were listening to 'N Sync I was listening to Em.

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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Master Chief » Mar 8th, '11, 03:02

Kez wrote:
Master Chief wrote:We can't know for sure as to what Em was trying to appeal to. What if Em was listening to some conscious rap and decided to make a song with a good message for a change? What if he was listening to Kim and said "Damn, look how far I've gotten" and got his pen and wrote the opposite to what Kim stands for? Honestly, a song about abusive relationships shouldn't appeal to teeny-bopper girls because it's a controversial, serious issue. But, because Rihanna sings a catchy chorus (doesn't mean that was her purpose on the song) and because Em is rapping about love they fucking like it lmao. We BOTH can't say for sure but there are some possibilities that could've inspired Em to make that song. Em could've EASILY made a club song or a watered down song about love. Key word: watered down.


Rihanna's purpose on the song was clearly to sell, because as i said Skylar Grey did it first and sent it to Em. And don't try and suggest Rihanna was chosen because Rihanna can sing better than Skylar cause that's just fuckin stupid and you know it isn't true lol. As for the origins of the song, who knows you could be right, but the Rihanna side of it was entirely sales orientated, for the reasons above.

And it's my opinion that LTWYL is watered down, but i've been through that shit on the other thread and i really can't be arsed.

I don't know man...I mean when I found Skylar Grey did it first, I also had that thought but then again Em said that he thought Rihanna was the only persona that could "kill it" which in my mind translates to "she was a victim to domestical abuse so it would make sense to have her on a song about that". I'm a litle iffy about that.
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby Kez » Mar 8th, '11, 03:34

Menzo wrote:
Kez wrote:
Master Chief wrote:We can't know for sure as to what Em was trying to appeal to. What if Em was listening to some conscious rap and decided to make a song with a good message for a change? What if he was listening to Kim and said "Damn, look how far I've gotten" and got his pen and wrote the opposite to what Kim stands for? Honestly, a song about abusive relationships shouldn't appeal to teeny-bopper girls because it's a controversial, serious issue. But, because Rihanna sings a catchy chorus (doesn't mean that was her purpose on the song) and because Em is rapping about love they fucking like it lmao. We BOTH can't say for sure but there are some possibilities that could've inspired Em to make that song. Em could've EASILY made a club song or a watered down song about love. Key word: watered down.


Rihanna's purpose on the song was clearly to sell, because as i said Skylar Grey did it first and sent it to Em. And don't try and suggest Rihanna was chosen because Rihanna can sing better than Skylar cause that's just fuckin stupid and you know it isn't true lol. As for the origins of the song, who knows you could be right, but the Rihanna side of it was entirely sales orientated, for the reasons above.

And it's my opinion that LTWYL is watered down, but i've been through that shit on the other thread and i really can't be arsed.


Why wouldn't they have just thrown Rihanna on INAD then?


How would you explain putting Rihanna on such a song so far away from Rihanna's M.O? She's only capable of singing about "love", so she wouldn't do INAD in the first place even if they asked. Putting Rihanna on LTWYL suited because it's exactly the kind of shite she does. INAD is nothing like something Rihanna'd do.
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Re: Why does Love The Way You Lie suck?...TO YOU

Postby mdemaz » Mar 8th, '11, 03:41

Admit it..
You guys would call this the greatest song since his comeback if it wasn't soo overrated..
Derp.
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