The "Whole-Other-Level" Eminem Tracks

[Revtone]

Kill You / Criminal / Square Dance / 8 Mile / Till I Collapse / Not Afraid / Rock Bottom / If I Had... and much more on the other level...

[MikeNUFC]

Brain Damage
Kim
Lose Yourself
Sing For The Moment
Rock Bottom
Till I Collapse
Criminal
Stan
The Way I Am
White America

Bar The Way I Am, that's basically my favourite song list as well.

All of those songs have cinematic, epic feel about them.

[Innovation]

Rock Bottom is the best song ever.

Defiantly one of his best, but Lose Yourself > Rock Bottom.

[EminemBase]

^ ahh fuck you're right lol, I didnt recheck the list after I originally posted, and from that to the post you quoted from me

My bad

Nah you were generally right with what you said, Way I Am was probably done towards the end of making MMLP. And nothing on SSLP or Encore and on really matches that "larger than life" element, so it KINDA matters the era (MMLP-8 Mile).

Well, now I know what you mean... I think "Mosh" ALMOST has that. In terms of uh, obviously it's not his best work lyrically (though it is fucking great, regardless of people's opinion on his political clout), but, the production and thudding, marching nature of it makes it feel kind of 'that' and huge to me.

It's almost grunge, and anthemic. I'd say that's the closest song from Encore which has that quality anyway. And the highpoint of the album.

Also, I think "Almost Famous" might have it for me too. That song has a great concept, every verse is thunderous, the whole thing is like going ten rounds with Tyson, and that along with that heavy, rock-tinged production and enormous flow... just makes it huge to me, I do think the song has that kind of quality overall.

[katha]

Brain Damage
Rock Bottom
Stan
Criminal
White America
Till I Collapse
Sing For The Moment
Lose Yourself
Renegade
Deja Vu
First verse of Love The Way You Lie, but then he goes and screws it up with "window pain/pane", I have such irrational hatred for that line because it's so jarring in an otherwise great song
Fourth verse of Going Through Changes
Kim and Bonnie and Clyde are obviously masterpieces, but I have difficulty listening to them. Seldom has a piece of art terrified me like these two songs.

[IrishShady]

I'd put If I had... in there.

[FreeSpeech]

This thread is a perfect example of people not reading the original posts. Read the first page discussion with me, Emady, and Embase. All this is now is people posting their favorite Eminem songs, which wasn't the point at all. Just stop...

[IrishShady]

This thread is a perfect example of people not reading the original posts. Read the first page discussion with me, Emady, and Embase. All this is now is people posting their favorite Eminem songs, which wasn't the point at all. Just stop...

It's not off topic at all, we're just giving our opinion about his "Whole-Other-Level" songs, nothin' wrong with that.

Kk?

[AnalKiddo]

This thread is a perfect example of people not reading the original posts. Read the first page discussion with me, Emady, and Embase. All this is now is people posting their favorite Eminem songs, which wasn't the point at all. Just stop...

I noticed that as well

This thread is a perfect example of people not reading the original posts. Read the first page discussion with me, Emady, and Embase. All this is now is people posting their favorite Eminem songs, which wasn't the point at all. Just stop...

It's not off topic at all, we're just giving our opinion about his "Whole-Other-Level" songs, nothin' wrong with that.

Kk?

The whole point of this conversation is to make a list of those PERFECT, meaning nothing can make it any better songs, 1/3rd of these posts are people stating their favorite songs

[Emadyville]

Well, now I know what you mean... I think "Mosh" ALMOST has that. In terms of uh, obviously it's not his best work lyrically (though it is fucking great, regardless of people's opinion on his political clout), but, the production and thudding, marching nature of it makes it feel kind of 'that' and huge to me.

It's almost grunge, and anthemic. I'd say that's the closest song from Encore which has that quality anyway. And the highpoint of the album.

Also, I think "Almost Famous" might have it for me too. That song has a great concept, every verse is thunderous, the whole thing is like going ten rounds with Tyson, and that along with that heavy, rock-tinged production and enormous flow... just makes it huge to me, I do think the song has that kind of quality overall.

I agree with almost famous. The epic idea comes from his delivery, like you said, its like ten round with tyson in each verse, plus a cool concept as well. Which makes for an epic song, especially since it goes through his entire career, well the beginning of it I guess.

Mosh though I disagree with, only because it doesnt have a lasting impact, while the other examples in the OP, and ones both you and I have stated do. What I mean is, in 10 years, all of those songs I feel will still be epic, still have meaning, while mosh I dont think will because it was about a specific time period and specific events so to speak. But in terms of being epic when it came out, I would have to agree on that. Maybe my points will give you a new outlook on the song and whether you still think its epic, maybe not, but I hope I provoked some more thought about it

[ch3mot3hrapy]

if i had,rock bottom, rabbit run,8 mile road

[EminemBase]

Well, now I know what you mean... I think "Mosh" ALMOST has that. In terms of uh, obviously it's not his best work lyrically (though it is fucking great, regardless of people's opinion on his political clout), but, the production and thudding, marching nature of it makes it feel kind of 'that' and huge to me.

It's almost grunge, and anthemic. I'd say that's the closest song from Encore which has that quality anyway. And the highpoint of the album.

Also, I think "Almost Famous" might have it for me too. That song has a great concept, every verse is thunderous, the whole thing is like going ten rounds with Tyson, and that along with that heavy, rock-tinged production and enormous flow... just makes it huge to me, I do think the song has that kind of quality overall.

I agree with almost famous. The epic idea comes from his delivery, like you said, its like ten round with tyson in each verse, plus a cool concept as well. Which makes for an epic song, especially since it goes through his entire career, well the beginning of it I guess.

Mosh though I disagree with, only because it doesnt have a lasting impact, while the other examples in the OP, and ones both you and I have stated do. What I mean is, in 10 years, all of those songs I feel will still be epic, still have meaning, while mosh I dont think will because it was about a specific time period and specific events so to speak. But in terms of being epic when it came out, I would have to agree on that. Maybe my points will give you a new outlook on the song and whether you still think its epic, maybe not, but I hope I provoked some more thought about it

The topics or time period being talked about, or events, are pretty trivial to me. Just like whether you agree with what Eminem is saying in those verses is, or how politically well-informed or 'credible' you may consider him. They have nothing to do with the execution.

So I think yes that song absolutely will still be that to me in 10 years because it's the execution, the way he's talking about those things, and the way the song is put together and its final effect that is epic to me. Not the opinions in it. It's how it sounds to me. The song sounds epic, the chorus and the production and the end result, sound epic.

And... they still have the same resonance if executed well and, "look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes have been swiped / washed out and wiped, and replaced with his own face - mosh now or die" is great writing to me, regardless of if I agree with it / was alive in that era or not. He could be talking about a fictional president and it still means the same.

[Kez]

"look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes have been swiped / washed out and wiped, and replaced with his own face - mosh now or die" is great writing to me, regardless of if I agree with it / was alive in that era or not. He could be talking about a fictional president and it still means the same.

That was always the part of Mosh that i always loved, that bit

But as for whether i've listened to it for a while, the answer would be unfortunately no

[momentisgolden]

Rock sound... slightly
100% serious... Definately
Produced by... dunno
Great Rhymes... too complex for definition
Angry.... more than ever before
Talks... no.
Cinematic feel... not like LY but really builds up to a fantastic climax at the end chorus.
Rumour has it, it was recorded in the TES era too.

Track- No Apologies. IMO, it does fit into The "Whole-Other-Level"