ok here we go. prepare for a long thread. (grab something to eat or sum, so u can pay attention)
And yes, if people dont read this I will repost it on a new thread and sticcy it just so its clear and everybody can understand it. aite?
First off all, This awards are not made to see who is better than the rest, or who sucks and who rocks, it was never meant to be like that. I just recall the last time we did this on 2008 and everyone had a fucking blast with it, absolutely no troubles at all happened. Of course its gonna have mistakes, its the first one we do this way. And thats exactly why I ask for opinions. But some of your opinions get to the point where you think the judges are biased or there could be cheating of some sort involved. thats not the case, you know why?... beacuse there will be no point.
I planned this awards for you, my enemies and my friends. And I have no interest at all in being based, I actually had a conversation with Emadyville about this and actually had to be biased in 1 category against me, to avoid this stuff, so I dont take it personal to nobody and
FROM nobody, beacuse like chambers said, everyone has opinions they just have their ways to express it, and since this is a forum activiy for all to enjoy I have to respect them, and I will/am respecting them with enjoyment, instead of hurting, beacuse that is the point. I wanted to be mod on audio stage not to have power, I want to make the audio stage comunity united, and help out. And very soon I am going to have very strong ways to help even better, I have never been selfish and will never be beacuse that its not my nature and you can ask a whole fucking bunch of people who I've taken my time to help them perfect either their mixing, their flow, give them tips, advice etc... beacuse I enjoy that. so me being based in this awards is an accusation, not an opinion. now:
1.- to Class = most of the songs are not recent. they go from the beggining of the date set to the end. ALL of them. Phantom's included songs on the shortlist were the ones he posted from this dates. (I dont know IF, but I may have skipped one without noticing. honest mistake, why dont someone else goes to the whole list I make and double checks to help me out in the first place, even if I didnt ask for it, if you have doubts I asked to be PM''d a link.)
2.- to Class = Mc Anonymous, Jay-19, Sticcy Z, Phantom & Bar. ALL OF THEM were in the list, all of them were considered by the judges, all of them deserve to be in this beacuse they are True TR members, banned or not, they are part of Tr Shady, they are part of the Memory of tr shady. If one made it and one didnt is beacuse it was considered that way, when summing up the points and opinions from every judge the nominated desitions were made. I had in my voting nominees draft two tracks from Mc Anonymous. one was Soliloquy for best lyrics and the other one was Say Goodbye To Mexico for best diss. And I have my first voting draft saved if you want to take a look at it, I'll gladly send it to you on msn.
3.- to Class = again, that is an accusation instead of an opinion, "I feel like you didn't include him because he would have won all the awards". I'm sorry but that is a stupid statement. first of all, beacuse I never could imagine him winning, or even get a lot of nominations, if any. (even u consider him the best on here or secon, third w.e. that is an opinion, its not a fact), The reason I avoided him as many many many others is purely because of what I stated above. This awards are made for all of you, why would I consider this guy who probably doent consider TR when thinking about forums, someone who only feeds people to get his feedback link, post his and then go mind his business, yeah he may be very very talented, but whats the point of bringing him in?? he wont ever see this. and he might take the place of a member who is as good as him and who is a part of the Tr comuntiy. the difference from him to Phantom you may wonder, is that Phantom, as Jay-19 or C-Riz, is somebody that we can guarantee to come back, beacuse he has and beacuse he knows TR.
4.- to Class = "And I love Sajjad, everyone knows that, but Life & Death is one of the best producers I've ever heard" might sound like a cliche, but Kanye thought the same of Beyonce and look who won. same thing man. and foreign collaborations I was meaning a rapper from here featuring a rapper from someone else, not a producer. I do agree with you that his beats are amazing, fuck, he's extremely dope.
5.- To Class = Tash had a lot of songs on the short list. Just wasnt a pick from any judge. That doesnt mean he is bad at what he does, beacuse he is Fucking awsome. Tash, your fucking awsome and a creative genious. But man, sometimes there's something that picks up more attention on different categories.
6.- To Class = Best new artist, well, that is my mistake then. I thought you had songs even before 2009. (also not any other judge told me different) thats why I didnt put you there, otherwise there's no reason why you wouldn't be there. And there really werent that many new artists that had a consitency like you or the ones nominated so we went with the best we could think of.
7.- to Class = "Also, no offense, but no other album that came out came close to either of Chambers albums" thats an opinion man. my personal favourite this year was Kez's anticlimax. and look who won: mine... thats what votings are made for.
8.- to Class = "Hit me was a horrible diss track...anon's response was 10x better" again opinion, and I can call you biased on that same as you call election bias towards me. Anon is your friend, of course youre going to think thats better... I did put him in my nominees list, but he didnt surfaced to any other judge. And in my honest opinion, his respone was not better, not even close.
9.- to Class = "ou also should have let people nominate their own tracks". yeah, thats the first idea that I though for next years, I want to keep developing a better structure and way to organize this.
10.- to Class = About Chambers not having many tracks, I really wanted to see "Say Hello To Winter" up there as well. and actually Chambers had 5 different tracks (not to mention the most nominations), thats not a few if you look at everyone else's count.
11.- to Steven = dude, go to backstage, you'll have better luck there trying to be funny.
12.- To Killa/Freedom = thanks for your kind words, I appreciate the recognition.
13.- to Chambers = If I'm not mistaken, Dont Sign Me came before the set date for the awards, I might be wrong, so I'll check again, I'm pretti sure it was done before tho'.
14.- at Kez = kez, you know you are my nikka, and I ride with ya till the end, but saying that class doesnt leave feedback is hypocritical. It doesnt matter the reason why, him, chambers, me or you, leave or not leave feedback, if you dont, u can't ask the others why they haven't you know?
15.- Steve = somebody get this troll out of here.
16.- to Class = I know you were banned, but I'm in msn almost everytime, and you are aswell. you could've told me you wanted to help out from there. I would've liked to have you on board aswell.
17.- to All = all of Phantom's songs were thought off when making the nominations, my favourite from him was If I Die Tonight, but the far majority of the votes were to his "Only I can see the truth" track.
18.- to Scrubz - thats exactly right, I offered unlimited chances for everyone to judge, you only had to PM and thats that. but not all of you did.
19.- To Class = "This was a great thing and I give mad props to Big Ax-D for doing it, there was many good parts about it, but there wouldn't really be much point in me going on about that." I appreciate that man, thanks for that. and you are right, I need this constructive cristism to make it better each time.
20.- To Class = "the judges were biased towards him because he ran and set this up. And were the judges names ever released? I'm pretty sure that's something that we should know." The judges were not biased towards me, I can tell you that. otherwise I would've taken everything myself. And their names were never releases beacuse that is the Respectfull thing to do. Thats how judging gets done. yeah its ironically that they dont want to be judged for their judgements. But that was their job when they agreed to help me. to judge. So no, I will not release their names because I respect them and even if I dont agree, I respect their decisions. But they exist. And some of them are even very respected in this forum for their reviewing and feeding aspect.
Like i said. this is not meant to cause animosity between you, or to cause problems and if it keeps being like this, the only solution will be to cancel it, but I dont want that, so thats why I do appreciate the feedback. But dont let this kind of things get into you, because the world itself is unfair. Everybody has to understand the differnce between an opinion and a fact. Non of the awards are facts, they are just cumulative amounts of fundamented opinions. that like everything else 2>1. simple as that. yes, some fundaments may be more valid than others, and that was also taken into consideration. But understand, I dont do this too piss off people, on the contrary, I am just tryng to give credit to all of us one more time. simple as that.
and everytime you have an idea for the awards, anything you want to tell me you can PM me, and now that Im also the Audio Stage mod, if you dont agree with something or if you have an idea for something you can always PM me. I care about the audio in here, even from my enemies, if they fuck with me, they get destroyed
, but I am not butt hurt person about this beacuse its something I enjoy.
just dont bring personal thigns into the matter and try to focus on perfecting your art more than on getting an award for it. and kez and class were discussing about feedback. we all need it man, I've been doing this since a long time ago and I still learn something new that I could perfect or change with every single song I post on here, even tho I post them aswell for enjoyment and beacuse I like to share em, same as everybody else.
so, dont cry. rejoice.... in other words, dont be pussies.
holla
pretty much sums it up. If you had a good idea on ways to make a better award show then u coulda pmed him. Puting AX on blast in this thread after HE made it happen is childish in my opinion.
Nah but for real, what do you expect? You seriously expect every award to be given to the person that you personally think deserves it? And i know you'll reply back with a "no" saying i'm being exaggerative (or "retarded" as you like to say) but that's the message i'm getting.
