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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Apr 10th, '11, 04:16

M15HKA wrote:He needed this album to become relevant again, I don't hate Recovery, I don't love it either more in between. I think it has some low points but it also had some very well written tracks. I have not liked the post recovery guest appearances and his selection of beats to spit over. In terms of having nothing to write about he can write about Detroit he never wrote a proper track dedicated to something like uniting the city and moving forward. Not some corny Not Afraid shit though. He can always write about, social commentary, motivational(work out type tracks),Battle tracks etc.

In terms of flow I like his flow from Warning/So Bad/Ridaz. Also like the beats on those tracks..

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that pretty much says it all from my POV
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby VenomBlackViper » Apr 10th, '11, 04:22

Kez wrote:Em sold out ever since he left Soul Intent tbh

Wrong, he sold out ever since he made Foolish Pride. He changed his style & stopped rapping about black chicks.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby slimsoxshady » Apr 10th, '11, 04:33

As I've been saying for many months now, Recovery is my favorite Eminem album
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby Elision » Apr 10th, '11, 07:43

slimsoxshady wrote:As I've been saying for many months now, Recovery is my favorite Eminem album
Same :D (and I've been listening since 99)
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby Sla » Apr 10th, '11, 07:44

I don't wanna even immagine a world without Recovery. Personally I'm thankful. First for all dope tracks, and second for his comeback as the world's greatest artist. Immagine if Relapse would have been his last album ... No one would speak about Em nowadays.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby VenomBlackViper » Apr 10th, '11, 07:45

Hearing Recovery get all this praise makes me want to go listen to SSLP again.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby Maybe » Apr 10th, '11, 08:05

You can suck his dick until Dre drops Detox, but the fact of the matter is: Recovery was an embarrassment. I don't care how relevant he attempted to make it by featuring an accomplished (yet terrible) mainstream singer. His work on that album was inferior not only to his past work, but to the work of his once less talented peers. His rhyming was amateur; his rhyme-schemes, punchlines & multies were ridiculously simple; pathetically one dimensional, and just plain stupid. His flow was decent in several of the songs, but quickly destroyed by his shocking lack of simple rhyming skills. The originality his songs were once known for was shattered; the debris swept away and replaced with the cookie cutter material we've heard spoken a hundred times over.

On the subject of inferior: Relapse was terrible. The rhyming was great, sure, and so was the flow in most songs. Actually, I'd say the rhyming was thoroughly superior and definitely reflective of a veteran image. However, the content, although occasionally funny, was mostly filler material and seemed pointless.

I was an Eminem fan until I listened to Recovery. He should have just quit after TES, because the "potential" he supposedly had when people were discussing his return was a myth. The only thing Eminem has now is a fatter bank account because his obsessed; disgustingly single minded and hopeless fans will purchase anything his voice is on.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby EminemBase » Apr 10th, '11, 08:29

Both good albums. Neither are classics. Both have classic material.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby Sla » Apr 10th, '11, 09:08

Maybe wrote:You can suck his dick until Dre drops Detox, but the fact of the matter is: Recovery was an embarrassment. I don't care how relevant he attempted to make it by featuring an accomplished (yet terrible) mainstream singer. His work on that album was inferior not only to his past work, but to the work of his once less talented peers. His rhyming was amateur; his rhyme-schemes, punchlines & multies were ridiculously simple; pathetically one dimensional, and just plain stupid. His flow was decent in several of the songs, but quickly destroyed by his shocking lack of simple rhyming skills. The originality his songs were once known for was shattered; the debris swept away and replaced with the cookie cutter material we've heard spoken a hundred times over.

On the subject of inferior: Relapse was terrible. The rhyming was great, sure, and so was the flow in most songs. Actually, I'd say the rhyming was thoroughly superior and definitely reflective of a veteran image. However, the content, although occasionally funny, was mostly filler material and seemed pointless.

I was an Eminem fan until I listened to Recovery. He should have just quit after TES, because the "potential" he supposedly had when people were discussing his return was a myth. The only thing Eminem has now is a fatter bank account because his obsessed; disgustingly single minded and hopeless fans will purchase anything his voice is on.


At least you think Relapse was terrible, I thought you could praise it. But I still can't understand you.

Em reached the top of his career after TES and 8 Mile, surely. But come on, why retiring? Em was such a genius, that we can live with him even if he's a bit worse. He still shits on all other rappers. He's got a fatter bank? And? Who gives a fuck? Are you really that jealous and malevolent? And don't begin talikng about some underground shit, cuz you loved him back on 2002 when he still got it.

So every fan should be thankful, that Em is even able to put some new shit out. Who the fuck wants to live in the past? Thinking the whole life about his comeback? How great it would be? Come on. I'm happy he had his comeback and I'm happy he managed to increase his skills after Relapse. His next album will hopefully even be better than Recovery. The more material he puts out the happier I am.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby StanBase » Apr 10th, '11, 10:16

Nollie wrote:Songs like 25 to Life, Talking to Myself, Going Through Changes and of course You're Never Over were pertinent. He needed to clear up those topics that he avoided and/or wasn't ready to talk about on Relapse.

How bout adding not afraid? :coffee:
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby cityfan31 » Apr 10th, '11, 11:33

Maybe wrote:You can suck his dick until Dre drops Detox, but the fact of the matter is: Recovery was an embarrassment. I don't care how relevant he attempted to make it by featuring an accomplished (yet terrible) mainstream singer. His work on that album was inferior not only to his past work, but to the work of his once less talented peers. His rhyming was amateur; his rhyme-schemes, punchlines & multies were ridiculously simple; pathetically one dimensional, and just plain stupid. His flow was decent in several of the songs, but quickly destroyed by his shocking lack of simple rhyming skills. The originality his songs were once known for was shattered; the debris swept away and replaced with the cookie cutter material we've heard spoken a hundred times over.

On the subject of inferior: Relapse was terrible. The rhyming was great, sure, and so was the flow in most songs. Actually, I'd say the rhyming was thoroughly superior and definitely reflective of a veteran image. However, the content, although occasionally funny, was mostly filler material and seemed pointless.

I was an Eminem fan until I listened to Recovery. He should have just quit after TES, because the "potential" he supposedly had when people were discussing his return was a myth. The only thing Eminem has now is a fatter bank account because his obsessed; disgustingly single minded and hopeless fans will purchase anything his voice is on.


Certainly a point of view, but I don't see why anyone that likes Recovery should be 'disgustingly single minded and hopeless', because they don't agree with you.

Relapse showed great skill, Recovery was his closure album. Now we're up to date, he's clean...I dunno what he can talk about next.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby Kez » Apr 10th, '11, 11:38

imo Recovery being a closure album is just his excuse so he can put another album out where he basically says the same shit. Yeah Relapse was mostly serial killer shit but Deja Vu summed up the past few years perfectly in just one song. Deja Vu is probably the best song he's made since he came back.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby cityfan31 » Apr 10th, '11, 11:45

Kez wrote:imo Recovery being a closure album is just his excuse so he can put another album out where he basically says the same shit. Yeah Relapse was mostly serial killer shit but Deja Vu summed up the past few years perfectly in just one song. Deja Vu is probably the best song he's made since he came back.


Not Afraid, Talkin 2 Myself, Going through Changes, You're never Over.... all drawing a line under the past 5 years and where he is at now.

Deja Vu is a great song though, probably the best out of those I named.
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Apr 10th, '11, 11:52

cant know
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Re: If Recovery Never Happened

Postby Rash J » Apr 10th, '11, 11:58

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