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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby 2O12 » May 15th, '11, 21:09

I want that Vinyl and I don't even have a record player!

And ShadyNarkoticz are you on KTT?
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby ShadyNarkoticz » May 15th, '11, 21:14

Raids-God wrote:The Vinal is just so Sexy :worship: :worship: :worship:
How much was it i gotta cop that

Like 16 bucks on Amazon.

And yeah, I'm on KTT. That place is my life. :flutter:
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby DƎRDYPK » May 15th, '11, 21:57

imma newb there


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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby Raids-God » May 15th, '11, 22:05

Lello wrote:16 bucks? MMLP Vinyl cost me 36.5 $

anyway I downloaded goblin, turns out all the songs are 2 minutes less than they actually are so I'm re-downloading later


Lol did you get Snippet's ? :confusion:
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby Raids-God » May 15th, '11, 22:15

Lello wrote:no i got short songs 1 minute, 2 minutes, and they're not even rap, but the title said goblin tyler the creator


LOL ! you got the Albums Tyler leaked as a troll :laughing:
Its cool hope you enjoy goblin when you get it, i dont have any low res links im sorry
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby 2O12 » May 16th, '11, 08:34

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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby 2O12 » May 17th, '11, 21:21

Kill People Burn Shit Fuck School
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby DƎRDYPK » May 17th, '11, 21:24

ODD FUTURE HERE TO STEAR YOU TO WHAT THE FUCKS COOL
FUCK RULES, SKATE LIFE, RAPE, WRITE, REPEAT TWICE!!!!

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/89956/e ... n-his-mom/

NO MORE FREE EARL
EARL'S FREE
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby 2O12 » May 17th, '11, 21:30

GOBLIN did 50,249 and charted 5. Swag.
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Not sure it is 100%
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby EminemBase » May 17th, '11, 21:36

Haven't fully gotten into them all yet but have checked Tyler.

I can see what they're about though. It 'clicks' immediately, I can feel the movement.

It's exciting. And thank fuck, need something like Odd Future after cunts like Drake.

I thought Bastard was good but largely aimless. Tyler clearly has huge potential but at the moment it's just sprawling and random. Bastard has its highlights but unless he finds a way to truly... concentrate it all into something more meaningful and absolute... we'll see.

But they're all very young still. So, it's exciting, as it's forming...

So yeah I'm a fan so much as, I'm watching them. And like what they're about.
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby Hiphopdane » May 17th, '11, 21:49

What I love the most about the movement is that they are so mysterious and that they somehow have managed to bring people together. Even people who have zero interest in hip hop talk about them.

Goblin's biggest hit doesn't even have a chorus, yet it has still helped the album do so well on the charts. I love how this proves that there is room for artistic creativity in this corrupt music industry.

It's been a while since I've seen this in hip hop.

Saigon aint impressed though:

Is this what grown people are listening to nowadays... I can understand why a rebeelious teen would like this but U grown ups.. C'mon Son
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby stillmatic » May 18th, '11, 10:27

I'm not impressed either. The best thing about them is their musical ideology, but when it actually comes to the music, it's very dry. And it's disappointing, because you want their music to be good, which is rare because when new artists come out, people check artists out only if their music is good, whereas this is different.

Henry Adaso who writes for About.com, is one of the best hip hop writers and journalists living today, and his review of Goblin is almost entirely exact to the way I feel, the difference is he is able to put it in words.

"The devil doesn't wear Prada; I'm clearly in a f--king white tee," proclaims Tyler, The Creator on the opening track of Goblin. Apparently, the devil also has a knack for green hats, knee-high socks, and emo-rap. The ungodly reference is apposite: Goblin sounds like it was recorded in hell. Macabre rhymes and haunting keys permeate nearly every track.

Goblin literally picks up where Bastard left off. Bastard, you may recall, ended with Tyler asking, "Where's the trigger? I'll let the bullet play hero." The first words on Goblin finds T.C., Tyler's alter-ego/conscience/therapist calling his bluff. "You wouldn't do that?" says T.C. in his signature husky voice. "Kill yourself or anyone else? You don't even have the balls to do that."

Throughout the album, Dr. T.C. functions as the sane side of a bruised and conflicted teenage boy. Where he played a more enabling role on Bastard, T.C. provides a buffer against Irrational Tyler on Goblin, the guardian angel to Tyler's devilish disguise. T.C. is also a thread of consciousness that weaves the songs on Goblin together as one cohesive force.

All the distinctive themes introduced on Bastard make cameos here. The galumphing thump, the cinematic wail, and the dystopic themes are sharp reminders that this is an Odd Future album. There are no happy moments here. No chipper snares. No fuzzy keys. And definitely no sugar-crested hooks. This kid wouldn't shake hands with happy at gunpoint.

Goblin is fueled by the same me-against-the-world attitude. Tyler bleeds his heart on his notepad. His M.I.A. father gets a generous dose of vitriol. Wack rappers and Bruno Mars are not safe from his wrath. He's now added a new category: mud-slingers who gripe about his violent lyrics. The increasingly pugnacious diatribe puts the Wolf Gang leader in a fighting stance for much of the album.

Highlights include "Sandwitches," the rousing jawn they played with great elan on Jimmy Fallon awhile back, the weird and wonderful "Yonkers," "Analog," "Fish," and "Tron Cat." Few songs on the album rival the intensity of "Yonkers."

Tyler is truly great at communicating his ideas effectively, a job made easier by his crisp flow and ear-grabbing delivery. Sadly, the album is light on fully fleshed out narratives, if you want to cavil at those things. Instead, we get an assortment of boasts and metaphors. The best attempt at storytelling is "Her," but even that's bogged down by a silly Shakespearean rhyme scheme.

While Goblin packs more dystopic elements than you could fit in a Kubrick film, it comes with a disclaimer. "Don't do anything I say on this record; it's all fiction," Tyler warns on a random disclaimer. It boggles the mind.

Isn't it obvious that Tyler, The Creator isn't out there patrolling the streets of L.A. with a checklist of rape candidates? Do people really think he has a collection of human heads? When have you known any artist to renounce their art? Did Marilyn Manson ever renounce his art? Did N.W.A. ever renounce their art? Did Wu-Tang ever renounce for their art? Did Eminem ever renounce his art? Did Tarantino ever renounce his art? Did someone put a gun to Tyler's head to make this happen? Will highly fictionalized rap ever be as acceptable as movies? Does the idea of a young, black teenager expressing violence on wax drives mainstream white America cuckoo banana crackers?

When Tyler says "White America, don't blame me," it's a sad moment for hip-hop. It begs the question, "Why does hip-hop have to always apologize? "Yonkers" is one of the most creative hip-hop videos in the last five years. You don't apologize for that. Whether or not you agree with the violent themes, you cannot deny the double standards. Whatever the excuse, the disclaimer detracts from the music. It's akin to being fully immersed in a thriller only to see the lead actor break the illusion and look the viewer directly in the eye. It jolts you right back to reality.

There are two categories of artists who espouse provocative themes: those who are caught off guard by negative attention and those who are aware of the larger ramifications but are immune to criticism. Tyler is caught somewhere between the two. He anticipates the reaction, but he can't decide whether he wants to be dark and disturbing or safe and successful. It's a distraction that detracts from the listening experience, even if the reasoning is justifiable on some level.

The most significant stride seems to be that a lot of thinking went into this album. Tyler is way more sensible and mature than he's let on. The hesitation in his approach is tied to the absence of his best friend and Odd Future teammate Thebe "Earl" Kgositsile. Earl's dragon lady of a mother shipped him off to a military academy after she heard the 16 year-old's drug-fueled mixtape. Watching his best friend go away for the same themes that drive his own music must have had some impact on Tyler. Earl's stern, dragon lady of a mother is a constant reminder of the opposition to his music.

Among the albums best qualities are the admirable range and variation of his songwriting. The album opener finds him at his most sincere; brandishing the world's deepest growl over a bump and glide beat, he tackles the critical carping that surely awaits him. He drifts in and out of the song, occasionally pausing after a rhyme as if he's waiting for the listener to acknowledge the profundity of his lyrics. The self-allusion to violent lyrics, trying too hard, etc is an effort that hews to the theory that an insult is stripped of its venom if you say it about yourself first. He sounds menacing on "Tron Cat," while riding a beat nasty enough to wrinkle RZA's nose. "Boppin' B-tch" is a comedic gem straight out of the disco era.

The blitzkrieg brio of Goblin is fueled partly by the culmination of aesthetic influences. His style owes its brimming energy to the influence of Eminem and N.E.R.D. The Neptunes influence, which dates back to Odd Future's nascent years, is even more pronounced on the production end. Some songs here utilize the same tingling keys, blaring bass, and piano breaks favored by Pharrell and Chad. "She" is the most obvious homage to this style, but "Tron Cat" and "Golden" also hint at it. Even though you can hear the N.E.R.D. influence, it's still dumb fresh. The beats are made for fat subwoofers. The production splendidly blends a militant approach with novel melodies. "Yonkers," in particular, sounds like a trillion ants marching to war.
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Whatever you make of Tyler's lyrics, you can't argue against his talent. Goblin is structurally profound and musically sound. His music, among other social merits, is the soundtrack of nerdy teenagers who want to reclaim a sense of masculinity. African-American expression of masculinity usually arrives in the form of cliches about sex, money, and girls. Tyler has found a different lane.

Sure, there are some weird moments, particularly on "B-tch Suck D-ck" featuring Taco and Jasper. It's either an exhibition of how badly his friends suck at rapping or an indictment of dudes who suck at rapping. Either way, it's a limp piece of detritus left to wither on the side of a major roadkill. Tyler kills them on the track, then kills them on the track. Trust me, it'll make sense when you hear it. Some of the T.C. skits are unintentionally funny, which neuters the grim vibe he's going for. The shtick wears thin after a while. Couldn't he find Prince Paul's email?

Tyler harbors lofty aspirations, no doubt. "They say I try too goddamn hard. No sh-t, I want a Grammy, you damn retard," he barks on the bonus cut "Steak Sauce." He wants to win Grammys and sell out arenas, yet he finds comfort in the stench-filled tracks that make programmers scratch their heads. His main struggle is to reconcile a desire to create a commercially still sound with his quest to push the envelope. With a goal to conquer the climate of mediocrity, Tyler sets his eyes on painting rap's future red. Songs like "Analog," "VCR/Wheels" and "Session" show he's capable of writing for mass audience.

Tyler may be so effective in communicating raw ideas that the spectacle of commercial refinement seems invisible. Zoom in a bit, though, and you'll notice the potential to evolve and join Frank Ocean as Odd Future's commercially viable asset. When he eases up on the throttle to reflect over a date which he narrates in an array of unusual metaphors, he's remarkably convincing.

Lyric for lyric, beat for beat, Tyler, The Creator is one of the best new MCs around. His voice is sturdy down to its asthmatic drone, his instrumentals unwavering in their bass hum, his wealth of imagination deep beyond his age. Much of the material for Goblin was written in Tyler's late teens. He seems to have already matured past this album. Still, this album thoroughly captures a tortured teenager. But don't expect Tyler to keep mining his trouble childhood for hits. A promise to explore other topics ensures that his catalog will evolve

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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby 2O12 » May 18th, '11, 16:03

Next OF release is going to be MellowHype - Blackenedwhite Re-Release
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby ThomasJ » May 18th, '11, 17:16

Does anyone have Frank Ocean's 'nostalgia, ULTRA.' in 320 kbps?
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Re: OddFutureWolfGangKillThemAll Thread

Postby 2O12 » May 18th, '11, 17:35

ThomasJ wrote:Does anyone have Frank Ocean's 'nostalgia, ULTRA.' in 320 kbps?

Don;t think it has been released at 320.
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