Why Sadistik is better than current Eminem

[Devil'sAdvocate]

This is fucking stupid,i cant believe that class have fell off this bad with his trolling.

[classthe_king]

:laughing:

This is fucking stupid,i cant believe that class have fell off this bad with his trolling.

The best part is that I'm not trolling and if that's going to be your cop out for why you all lost the debate then whatever helps you sleep at night.

[classthe_king]

Flow:

I know you guys like to nut over Eminem's flow but I promise you, it's not good at all. Ask Block, Mc Maybe, Satire, anyone who makes a lot of Hip-Hop and knows a lot about it and they will tell you the same thing. His flow is extremely sloppy, he awkwardly places his rhymes all over the bar causing him to sound off beat, he'll place the middle of a sentence at the end of a bar, pause and then quickly rap the end of the sentence. This makes his flow extremely choppy and all over the place.

He does that on purpose though. It's not a mistake.

He's clearly trying to sound unpredictable and manic, if you're referring to recently.

But, he's always done that in the past too, ending a bar on half a word so that you have to listen for the next line and also to rhyme the first half of the word with the end of the following bar. A lot of rappers do that though, but it's intentional not a fuck-up. I don't agree that he sounds off-beat though (cover this later in post, end up agreeing kind of).

Like Em said, with his first two albums he was trying to catch-up with the beat. He really nailed it with The Eminem Show. But, I think some rappers who some would consider to have better flows - to me at least, sound like they're tryna catch-up with the beat and I think if there's one thing Em has mastered in various styles throughout his career, it's flow.

Not here to debate Sadistik vs. Em as I know nothing about Sadistik. But was just skimming and saw that, and you write it like it's a flaw as if an accident. Whether you like it or not is a separate discussion but, it's on purpose. That bit you said about him speeding up quickly as if to 'fit the bar' in I don't agree with how you put either... he is doing that lately but again, he's clearly switching between fast and slow and messing around with style...

It's not like he couldn't figure out how to fit the bar in so rushed it. Which is what I hear a lot of rappers do when a word doesn't fit or something. But he always manages to get the bars in, and fit a lot of conversation in bars and deliver it all naturally and with a structured (though often manic, these days) flow that intentionally bounces back and forth.

And I think when he does that it takes flow to a more interesting level, to give you the impression you don't know what he's gonna say next all the time. Again, whether it works or you think it sounds shit, or if he's predictable - not relevant to why he's doing it.

But personally, I'd much rather hear that (also does this on "Kill You" a lot) than the straightforward, 'chilled' or predictable flow of most. This is what makes Em sound unique from other rappers I think. Which is why The Marshall Mathers LP doesn't age, the flows are more like conversations so they don't sound corny over time, they sound quicker and sharper.

What he does lately is, well yes he does go off-beat because he normally creates these flows in his head and lately doesn't really seem to care what beat he's on, as he'll just apply the flow anyway and he seems to more-so think his flow is more important than the beat. Like it's literally a subtle and insignificant backdrop. So yes technically he is going off-beat I guess. But because of the fact he always has some kind of 'head structure' to his flow, it never sounds odd to me, and always sounds rhythmically on time to my ears. Whether directly with the beat or not.

But this is the problem with other people producing for Em or, with these 'fuller' beats Em is rapping over. Which is why The Eminem Show flows are so good and his voice 'becomes' the beat, because they're his beats, which he molded around the flows in his head. So they fit perfectly to his rhythm and direction.

I'm not saying that you can't do all that stuff, because Sadistik does switch up his flows a lot too

"And this time (pause)I'll just try my (pause) luck
Surrounded by these masks like it's eyes wide (pause) shut
And I might (pause) jump ship or I flip like it's my live (pause) bus
So I try (pause) trust with (pause) how it was or( pause) how it is"

Eminem just doesn't sound well when he does it, whether it was intentional or not.

PS. Do you mean... that Eminem's CURRENT flows only are off-beat and messy or do you mean, Eminem's flow in general as in, Eminem's past flows too?

Everything I said was about current Eminem

[Eazy-GFX]

Well, I'm just going to state the obvious with this one - tl;dr.

No hate here for Sadistik on my part, though. I like some of the tracks I've heard from him so far.

[classthe_king]

Every single syllable I bolded rhymed, except for one, ( missed the wrap/grab). You colored a bunch of a's and the's and is's inbetween rhymes that don't rhyme.

said next time and critisize do not rhyme at all lolz

hot headed as/ya better get do not rhyme, plus they're like 3 lines apart lmao

cold hearted does no rhyme with flows tighter

spiderman does not rhyme with throwin

"inside of a" rhymes with nothing

so get lost does not rhyme with this is salt besides the last syllable

throw you in does not rhyme with ocean in

The way he flows sip piss like and then describe they don't rhyme

to his grave does not rhyme with how it taste, plus it's 3 lines apart

I guess I missed tickle him and skim him and as well

[classthe_king]

Nothing in that post holds any importance

[Devil'sAdvocate]

LOL @ me copping out,i didnt even say shit yet.

[Guess_Who]

You guys are doing a thesis on Sadiskitk

[Master Chief]

Nothing in that post holds any importance

What? Of course it does, you just can't seem to envisage through your primitively dim-witted thick monkey fuckin skull. What I said wasn't unfathomable nor extraneous to the matter at hand, dumb ass, yet you just yearn to remain on top of an ill-fated argument as if it's your fuckin boyfriend, you faggot.

"Lulz, retracting to inarticulate odious terms of degradation to cover up for fallacious attempts to turn the tide."

Go fuck yourself.

I didn't understand half of these words but they sound cool.

[classthe_king]

Nothing in that post holds any importance

What? Of course it does, you just can't seem to envisage through your primitively dim-witted thick monkey fuckin skull. What I said wasn't unfathomable nor extraneous to the matter at hand, dumb ass, yet you just yearn to remain on top of an ill-fated argument as if it's your fuckin boyfriend, you faggot.

"Lulz, retracting to inarticulate odious terms of degradation to cover up for fallacious attempts to turn the tide."

Go fuck yourself.

Wow, that's impressive. You've managed to say absolutely nothing with the biggest words possible.

[Master Chief]

*Waits for Menzo to accept concession*

[Eazy-GFX]

Nothing in that post holds any importance

What? Of course it does, you just can't seem to envisage through your primitively dim-witted thick monkey fuckin skull. What I said wasn't unfathomable nor extraneous to the matter at hand, dumb ass, yet you just yearn to remain on top of an ill-fated argument as if it's your fuckin boyfriend, you faggot.

"Lulz, retracting to inarticulate odious terms of degradation to cover up for fallacious attempts to turn the tide."

Go fuck yourself.

Reading this while looking at your avatar...

[Master Chief]

^ LOL. I did that right after you said that and I literally laughed out loud

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Menzo straight up slaying this faggot.

[classthe_king]

^^^^^^^^^^^lolz okay


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