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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby whiteamerica » Jun 18th, '11, 21:21

Master Chief wrote:So, you prefer personality and purpose (whatever that means) over rhyming, flow, delivery, production, and just overall lyricism? Plus, you total dumbass, the EP has its fair share of content/purpose that isn't just about nothing if you actually knew how to analyze and listen to Hip Hop music. Oh yeah, d00d! Take From Me, The Reunion and Lighters are about absolutely nothing... Yeah, this guy is a fucking moron. It's been proven time after time but goddamn. GOAT doesn't have personailty either, it's a fucking pill zombie drooling and slurring over a beat. The Apple is saved by the great content, amazing hook and the fantastic beat. Not that bad rhyming. Get Money is just aimless and bad, it has literally 0 purpose. Difficult is very emotional and heartfelt but lyrically and rhyming-wise it's a trainwreck. Almost as bad as GOAT in that aspect.

It's an insult to Hip Hop and Eminem that you honestly believe that Welcome 2 Hell or fuck it the WHOLE EP is inferior to THAT. It just further illuminates you as a complete dipshit. And I love how you didn't mention Emulate which is the only song on SFTV that is actually good enough to be compared to the EP.



i guess i just miss the eminem who could incorporate sick lyricism behind a purposeful concept....

and wait. you don't prefer purpose to punchline filled nonsense? :facepalm

perhaps "technically" eminem packs in some considerable multies in the EP. i haven't given it enough listens to dissect every song to find every single clever little piece of wordplay. but can you blame someone for not adoring the guy yelling at "cheesy bitches because they can't compete with the real macaroni"?

sure you can look his stuff and say, wtf kid. not EVERYTHING he does is content based and purposeful. i realize that. but even when he was putting in multi filled verses he had some structure and reason behind it.

imo: it went from eminem LP = a few content based, the rest multi based (with ideas woven in)[not too mention only LEGITIMATE features<----(other rappers near/in his league)]
to-----> eminem LP = less content based, the rest multi based (with silly punchlines) [features like Rihanna, Lil Wayne (only there to sell the record)]

you won't agree with me ever because you are set on sucking Eminem's cock until he retires (probably by then having ruined his 3/4 respectable albums with his garbage which is unlikely to be replaced by real eminem ever again) so i'll just leave you alone from now on
if you go platinum it's got nothin to do with luck, it just means that a million people are stupid as fuck.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Mahmoud48 » Jun 18th, '11, 21:22

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ur fighting for a person who doesn't even know u exist
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Mahmoud48 » Jun 18th, '11, 21:48

Menzo wrote:
whiteamerica wrote:
Menzo wrote:You're a fuckin idiot.


ok. and wow. after a relisten just now i can't believe class likes take from me the best.... though i thought everything from the EP was trash. take from me eminem screams like crazy and goes really fast in some parts for no reason making it seem awkward and not fluid.


Your attempts at trolling are laughably inferior to your attempts at imposing a coherently concise and thought provocative debate.

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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Slayer661 » Jun 18th, '11, 23:12

whiteamerica wrote:
Master Chief wrote:So, you prefer personality and purpose (whatever that means) over rhyming, flow, delivery, production, and just overall lyricism? Plus, you total dumbass, the EP has its fair share of content/purpose that isn't just about nothing if you actually knew how to analyze and listen to Hip Hop music. Oh yeah, d00d! Take From Me, The Reunion and Lighters are about absolutely nothing... Yeah, this guy is a fucking moron. It's been proven time after time but goddamn. GOAT doesn't have personailty either, it's a fucking pill zombie drooling and slurring over a beat. The Apple is saved by the great content, amazing hook and the fantastic beat. Not that bad rhyming. Get Money is just aimless and bad, it has literally 0 purpose. Difficult is very emotional and heartfelt but lyrically and rhyming-wise it's a trainwreck. Almost as bad as GOAT in that aspect.

It's an insult to Hip Hop and Eminem that you honestly believe that Welcome 2 Hell or fuck it the WHOLE EP is inferior to THAT. It just further illuminates you as a complete dipshit. And I love how you didn't mention Emulate which is the only song on SFTV that is actually good enough to be compared to the EP.



i guess i just miss the eminem who could incorporate sick lyricism behind a purposeful concept....

and wait. you don't prefer purpose to punchline filled nonsense? :facepalm

perhaps "technically" eminem packs in some considerable multies in the EP. i haven't given it enough listens to dissect every song to find every single clever little piece of wordplay. but can you blame someone for not adoring the guy yelling at "cheesy bitches because they can't compete with the real macaroni"?

sure you can look his stuff and say, wtf kid. not EVERYTHING he does is content based and purposeful. i realize that. but even when he was putting in multi filled verses he had some structure and reason behind it.

imo: it went from eminem LP = a few content based, the rest multi based (with ideas woven in)[not too mention only LEGITIMATE features<----(other rappers near/in his league)]
to-----> eminem LP = less content based, the rest multi based (with silly punchlines) [features like Rihanna, Lil Wayne (only there to sell the record)]

you won't agree with me ever because you are set on sucking Eminem's cock until he retires (probably by then having ruined his 3/4 respectable albums with his garbage which is unlikely to be replaced by real eminem ever again) so i'll just leave you alone from now on


lol, bolded part made me die laughing. I hate I'm On Everything, way too schizoid and all over the place. I hated certain lines on the EP : The Hose (Above The Law), The Booty Hole (Echo) and the Wipe (Take From Me) . Wish Em would just be a bit more sophisticated with his songwriting because imo, he's in the best form since his comeback.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 18th, '11, 23:41

dchen93 wrote:what do you think of a kiss? i think the rhyming and delivery are great on that. the back-and-forth between the two of them, especially on the third verse where they trade every few lines and use the same rhyme schemes is really impressive. the delivery is also great - he switches between calm and energized in a really natural way (for example, the "come on stripper let's hit the strip 180, throw it in reverse ...). reminds me of kill you.


I don't remember anything specific, just that it had a lot of corny punches, fast flow for no reason and a lethargic delivery, but that can be applied to every team.

also there are really great rhyme schemes scattered throughout the ep that are also very interesting. i'm not a fan of the delivery on i'm on everything, but this part is great:

break that Klonopin in half
While I smoke some chronic in the cab
with Donovan McNabb
And I dye my hair back blonde again and laugh


The rhymes sound good on paper but I doubt he made them sound good on the ep

lighters as a whole is a pretty shitty song (hook and beat are terrible), but i thought his verse had a lot of passion. the delivery was good, and this "i love it when i tell them shove it..." part had excellent internal rhyming.


Lighters was disgraceful. Eminem should never rap on a beat like that and no, I didn't like his delivery.

echo was a great verse all around. should have made the ep.


I liked Echo for the most part

and the reunion had a great hook, really catchy and pretty funny, has the shady vibe to it.


Yes, the hook was pretty good

and energy? the second half of the above the law verse, reminded me of third verse of amityville.


Not from what I remember

so overall i think the ep is solid, the technical aspects of rhyming are great (a huge improvement over recovery), he's switching up his delivery and it sounds great on a good number of the songs, and i personally think the subject matter was consistently entertaining (though a bit homogenous, but that can be forgiven since they were just fucking around making songs mostly with no real direction).


I thought overall it was an uninspired Eminem rapping fast because he thinks that's what the people want but his awful delivery combined with horrendous punches ruin it.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby dchen93 » Jun 19th, '11, 01:23

you think he's still got the potential to put out quality material given that he's inspired? (take from me, echo)
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 19th, '11, 05:18

If he gets inspired, yes. However, I don't think that will happen.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Satire » Jun 19th, '11, 18:44

Wow, really? :unsure:
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 19th, '11, 18:45

Satire wrote:Wow, really? :unsure:


Yes.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Satire » Jun 19th, '11, 18:46

classthe_king wrote:
Satire wrote:Wow, really? :unsure:


Yes.


I just don't get it. I don't see that much difference in the delivery/flow from some Recovery songs like No Love.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 19th, '11, 18:49

Satire wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Satire wrote:Wow, really? :unsure:


Yes.


I just don't get it. I don't see that much difference in the delivery/flow from some Recovery songs like No Love.


No Love is a lyrical disaster and the flow wasn't perfect on this song but it was much better than that choppy flow.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Trimss » Jun 19th, '11, 18:54

Above the Law is a great work-out song though, second half of the first verse is energy and screaming at another level. (Yeah some may dislike it it's obvious but.. it's just motivating.)
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby Satire » Jun 19th, '11, 18:54

classthe_king wrote:No Love is a lyrical disaster and the flow wasn't perfect on this song but it was much better than that choppy flow.


I honestly thought the speed up & down flow on No Love actually added to it for once. It gave the verse a certain momentum, which is what he seems to aim for when he collabs with Wayne.

I just don't see why you like this song. I mean, I understand why people would like it, but I don't understand why you like it when you hate all of Em's recent work. I'll admit the closing lines are dope as fuck, but the flow he uses to open his verse is so chopped up, the beat is so meh, and his voice still sounds shot. Plus the hook is annoying as fuck.
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Re: The Best Song on the EP is...

Postby classthe_king » Jun 19th, '11, 19:03

Satire wrote:I honestly thought the speed up & down flow on No Love actually added to it for once. It gave the verse a certain momentum, which is what he seems to aim for when he collabs with Wayne.


I thought the flow was horrendous, the pause, speed up again flow was unlistenable to me

I just don't see why you like this song. I mean, I understand why people would like it, but I don't understand why you like it when you hate all of Em's recent work. I'll admit the closing lines are dope as fuck, but the flow he uses to open his verse is so chopped up, the beat is so meh, and his voice still sounds shot. Plus the hook is annoying as fuck.


I wasn't judging the Chorus or even Royce's part, only Eminem's part.

And yeah, the flow isn't very good in the begining and at some parts in the middle, but at least the whole verse didn't have a bad flow. The delivery was great the whole time and these parts had good flows and rhyming imo

Cause I break my back to give you my art, you steal my thoughts
It’s like driving a spike through my heart
You might think it’s not that big of a deal to steal from me
But music is all I got
Aside from my daughters, not trying to sound like a martyr
But it’s getting harder than I thought

They’ll appreciate me when I’m gone, they say it was I’ll, right?
The way I kill mics? But the way I feel right now?
It just feels like I’m so done with this sh-t I might as well wipe
I have nothing else to give you, nothing left to contribute
Farewell I bid you, but before I go, my last gift to you
Ladies and gentleman, Slaughterhouse I give you!
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