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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby VeNoMmaLicious » Jul 14th, '11, 04:26

Master Chief wrote:What Joe Budden is saying is more interesting/relevant than what Crook is saying. He's just rhyming multiple syllables for the fuck of it. Plus, Joey's flow was much better.


Crooked I> Joe Budden.
Also this is my opinion but I do not like that many JOe Budden songs as much as Crooked I.

I can tell you are a dedicated Budden fan but Loud Noises, Crooked I had a much better verse and how was his verse on LN not relevant. Joe Budden on FD was great, well the best actually on the song with Crooked I finishing second.
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby Master Chief » Jul 14th, '11, 04:30

VeNoMmaLicious wrote:
Master Chief wrote:What Joe Budden is saying is more interesting/relevant than what Crook is saying. He's just rhyming multiple syllables for the fuck of it. Plus, Joey's flow was much better.


Crooked I> Joe Budden.

I can tell you are a dedicated Budden fan but Loud Noises, Crooked I had a much better verse and how was his verse on LN not relevant. Joe Budden on FD was great, well the best actually on the song with Crooked I finishing second.

No.

Crooked was the worst on Furiously Dangerous, probably a little better than Luda but meh. And he was the third best on Loud Noises, ahead of Eminem and Royce. Joe Budden's flow was better. His rhyming was better (having more doesn't mean better). Joe Budden's voice actually fit the beat very well. It complemented his flow. His lyrics were more interesting and relevant, like I said.

Joe Budden EASILY killed Loud Noises.
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby J.R. » Jul 14th, '11, 04:32

Loud noises- Joe budden by far, You can say what you want, that nikka killed it.

And no, I'm not supporting it with facts, you don't deserve them if you can't listen and figure out why yourself. :coffee:
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby VeNoMmaLicious » Jul 14th, '11, 04:38

Master Chief wrote:
VeNoMmaLicious wrote:
Master Chief wrote:What Joe Budden is saying is more interesting/relevant than what Crook is saying. He's just rhyming multiple syllables for the fuck of it. Plus, Joey's flow was much better.


Crooked I> Joe Budden.

I can tell you are a dedicated Budden fan but Loud Noises, Crooked I had a much better verse and how was his verse on LN not relevant. Joe Budden on FD was great, well the best actually on the song with Crooked I finishing second.

No.

Crooked was the worst on Furiously Dangerous, probably a little better than Luda but meh. And he was the third best on Loud Noises, ahead of Eminem and Royce. Joe Budden's flow was better. His rhyming was better (having more doesn't mean better). Joe Budden's voice actually fit the beat very well. It complemented his flow. His lyrics were more interesting and relevant, like I said.

Joe Budden EASILY killed Loud Noises.



Hmm..I understand Furiously Dangerous but Loud NOises??
Crooked I clearly had the best verse with Joe Budden coming after Eminem. Royce verse on Loud Noises was nothing special and weak. Honestly, I never enjoyed Budden 100% so my answer might be bias but I do strongly feel Crooked I verse on Loud Noises> Joe Budden's Verse on Loud NOises.
Anyways I got to go now and will come back tmrw. I will actually go take a listen to both tracks again and compare.
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby Master Chief » Jul 14th, '11, 05:08

You still haven't said why but okay.
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby DanWS » Jul 14th, '11, 14:50

Joe Budden is by FAR the best member of Slaughterhouse. But I do admit that some of the beats/flows that suit the rest of the group don't necessarily suit Joey's style (he even admits this himself), and subsequently he doesn't always stand out like he should. Individually though, he is eons ahead of all the other members.
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby VeNoMmaLicious » Jul 14th, '11, 19:06

DanWS wrote:Joe Budden is by FAR the best member of Slaughterhouse. But I do admit that some of the beats/flows that suit the rest of the group don't necessarily suit Joey's style (he even admits this himself), and subsequently he doesn't always stand out like he should. Individually though, he is eons ahead of all the other members.


Really? I always though Royce is the best member with Budden being third and Ortiz fourth. Crooked I is the rapper that best belongs in a group and his solo work isn't really good.

Solo Work: Royce>Budden>Crooked>Ortiz
However I have only heard freestyles and one song called "she said" by ortiz so I guess it isn't a strong statement. Budden and Royce is debatable. I have only heard mood Muzik 4/4.5 which was dope. His songs seem boring and doesn't standout imo. Out of the whole album I only kept certain tracks on my ipod knowing the rest I will never listen to. I think at this point, we all can agree that Ortiz is the weakest right?
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby DanWS » Jul 14th, '11, 20:32

VeNoMmaLicious wrote:
DanWS wrote:Joe Budden is by FAR the best member of Slaughterhouse. But I do admit that some of the beats/flows that suit the rest of the group don't necessarily suit Joey's style (he even admits this himself), and subsequently he doesn't always stand out like he should. Individually though, he is eons ahead of all the other members.


Really? I always though Royce is the best member with Budden being third and Ortiz fourth. Crooked I is the rapper that best belongs in a group and his solo work isn't really good.

Solo Work: Royce>Budden>Crooked>Ortiz
However I have only heard freestyles and one song called "she said" by ortiz so I guess it isn't a strong statement. Budden and Royce is debatable. I have only heard mood Muzik 4/4.5 which was dope. His songs seem boring and doesn't standout imo. Out of the whole album I only kept certain tracks on my ipod knowing the rest I will never listen to. I think at this point, we all can agree that Ortiz is the weakest right?


If you thought Mood Muzik 4 was dope then you really should check out the rest of his work. To me Budden is a lot like prime Em - he makes that storytelling, emotive music but is also technically brilliant. People who have been through similar things as him can relate to him very well which is why he has such a strong fanbase. Check out the first 3 Mood Muzik mixtapes and Padded Room for starters. Listen to songs like "Whatever It Takes", "Walk With Me", "Now I Lay", "Pray For Me", "Dum Out", "All Of Me". Whereas Royce and Crooked are good at pure spitting, for me Joe has another dimension and is able to make songs which much stronger themes because of how personal his content is. But if you strictly like that battle-type of hip-hop and aren't too fussed about the deeper kind of music then you prolly won't be able to relate to Budden's stuff as much.

As for who is the weakest out of Slaughterhouse, I really don't know. Ortiz is very technically impressive at times, but so are Royce and Crooked.
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Re: Joe Budden is a stan

Postby VeNoMmaLicious » Jul 14th, '11, 20:36

DanWS wrote:
VeNoMmaLicious wrote:
DanWS wrote:Joe Budden is by FAR the best member of Slaughterhouse. But I do admit that some of the beats/flows that suit the rest of the group don't necessarily suit Joey's style (he even admits this himself), and subsequently he doesn't always stand out like he should. Individually though, he is eons ahead of all the other members.


Really? I always though Royce is the best member with Budden being third and Ortiz fourth. Crooked I is the rapper that best belongs in a group and his solo work isn't really good.

Solo Work: Royce>Budden>Crooked>Ortiz
However I have only heard freestyles and one song called "she said" by ortiz so I guess it isn't a strong statement. Budden and Royce is debatable. I have only heard mood Muzik 4/4.5 which was dope. His songs seem boring and doesn't standout imo. Out of the whole album I only kept certain tracks on my ipod knowing the rest I will never listen to. I think at this point, we all can agree that Ortiz is the weakest right?


If you thought Mood Muzik 4 was dope then you really should check out the rest of his work. To me Budden is a lot like prime Em - he makes that storytelling, emotive music but is also technically brilliant. People who have been through similar things as him can relate to him very well which is why he has such a strong fanbase. Check out the first 3 Mood Muzik mixtapes and Padded Room for starters. Listen to songs like "Whatever It Takes", "Walk With Me", "Now I Lay", "Pray For Me", "Dum Out", "All Of Me". Whereas Royce and Crooked are good at pure spitting, for me Joe has another dimension and is able to make songs which much stronger themes because of how personal his content is. But if you strictly like that battle-type of hip-hop and aren't too fussed about the deeper kind of music then you prolly won't be able to relate to Budden's stuff as much.

As for who is the weakest out of Slaughterhouse, I really don't know. Ortiz is very technically impressive at times, but so are Royce and Crooked.


I guess I can't really call Budden weak if I haven't heard most of his music. I will check his music out.
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