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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Scrubz » Aug 8th, '11, 18:14

Maybe wrote:I think it's only fair to note that most of those songs are from before 2007. I put out my last song in 07 and haven't released anything new since then.

The song he posted is from 06, so I'd rather not get evaluated based on that material.



@Scrubz: Not dissing his stuff man. I'm just pointing out that someone can't say he's the best, because someone will always disagree. I suppose at the end of the day it all falls in to the opinion category. I just relate more to Cole and Class's music.



Yeah I hear ya, just didn't want people to think he was a "nobody" because he is very talented.



And no I don't whisper, having a soft voice does not mean I am whispering.
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Block » Aug 8th, '11, 18:43

Scrubz wrote:

And no I don't whisper, having a soft voice does not mean I am whispering.


I used to use that excuse when I sucked...
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '11, 20:35

Flow was absolutely perfect, no slips in it at all. I think your problem might have been in your mixing or something, sometimes it was hard to understand you.
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Block » Aug 8th, '11, 21:15

classthe_king wrote:Flow was absolutely perfect, no slips in it at all. I think your problem might have been in your mixing or something, sometimes it was hard to understand you.

The mixing is perfect, its just that the beat is very powerful. Ive listened to the pellas dozens of times to make sure everything is enunciated correctly. Its the one thing i'm very particular about, because it was hard for me when I first started rapping. My diction today, if I do say so myself, is nearly perfect. (this was more aimed at addressing the other comments, as well)
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby classthe_king » Aug 8th, '11, 21:24

Maybe you should just turn the volume up on the vocals, iunno.
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby B.A.D. » Aug 9th, '11, 01:13

k, I listened to this a couple times now.

first thing I noticed is the mixing. its executed well but you have a bit of volume issuses, specially on the extra words. but like for instance Second Verse is louder than first verse.

But other than that, shit I enjoyed the fuck out of this, the writing scheme is amazing, very unique. however the structure I dont like that much like sometimes you end the verse too late or too early. (thats just personal preference tho)... I wish you would've had a hook... but yeah, this is fire. good stuff. It sucks that we have to wait this long for your stuff man lol.

but yeah, good shit. lets see how Scrubz comes back from this

oh, & BTW: I agree with Mc Maybe at whoever said Phantom was the best "musically" talented here. no doubt he's great, but its a matter of preference. I think Kez or Tom Chambers can take a crown home anyday :y:
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Solace » Aug 9th, '11, 02:30


Damn even a newer member knows of the TRShady Channel :o
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby B.A.D. » Aug 9th, '11, 03:18

Solace wrote:

Damn even a newer member knows of the TRShady Channel :o


lol, you guys should re-cover the password
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Phantom » Aug 9th, '11, 10:08

VenomBlackViper wrote:Who the fuck are these randoms? Never heard of Phantom or JMB & they both seem to have something negative to say. Anyways I like your style, it's unique but is an acquired taste so some simpletons may not like it. I felt your diss said more towards the other person than Srubz' diss did. Your rhyme scheme like your style is unique, managed to catch it in its entirety as well. The beat was very well produced, great selection & it complimented your style & flow. Your delivery was weak at a few points, but nothing too bad to the point it's horrible or anything. Overall it wasn't a huge vicious ether track, it was more of a joke diss like Canibitch, so it achieved it's purpose well. Also this is the first track i've heard from you, hence why i'm commenting on your style. Good shit. :b:


i could ask you the same question dude. who are you?

and i wasnt trying to be negative at all just give constructive feed. check my threads if you wana find out who i am
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Phantom » Aug 9th, '11, 10:16

Maybe wrote:@Phantom being the best artist here: Wow, I just listened to a few of his songs and I have to disagree. Sure, he's better than some, but in my personal opinion both Cole & Class are better than him conclusively.


all up to musical taste and i respect yours. i dont think im the best here either. there are others here who can make songs just as well as i can and many who can make better songs than me. id rather not be brought up here tho its not my thread and it distracts from the issue at hand.


sorry for kinda hijacking your thread @threadstarter
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby EyeSpick » Aug 10th, '11, 10:43

If he's "scrubz" I'm the surgeon wearing him out

Best line^

I definitely hear the Bux influence on your rhyme structure. The flow and delivery was well executed overall. It seems "syllable" in the first line isn't very clear. I didn't like when you drew a line out like with "mic stand " and "sounds in hell" but they were on beat so I guess it's preference. I think your quality is holding back the delivery and voice from really clicking together. Right now the voice sounds kind of "airy" if that makes any sense. Great rhyming and you have a strong comfortable mic presence. Good beat choice too, who's the producer?
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Instant Legend » Aug 10th, '11, 14:22

pretty nice cut right here, your voice feels real smooth over this beat, some decent lines in here as well - that beat is niceness!

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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Block » Aug 10th, '11, 18:13

EyeSpick wrote:
If he's "scrubz" I'm the surgeon wearing him out

Best line^

I definitely hear the Bux influence on your rhyme structure. The flow and delivery was well executed overall. It seems "syllable" in the first line isn't very clear. I didn't like when you drew a line out like with "mic stand " and "sounds in hell" but they were on beat so I guess it's preference. I think your quality is holding back the delivery and voice from really clicking together. Right now the voice sounds kind of "airy" if that makes any sense. Great rhyming and you have a strong comfortable mic presence. Good beat choice too, who's the producer?


Thanks for the feed/ criticism, man. Umm, all I know is that I got it off shadowville. I think it's Hala X.

And thanks, Legend.
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Kez » Aug 11th, '11, 03:05

I have no idea why Scrubz would diss you lmao or what any of the backstory is on this, so forgive me.

The beat is absolutely beautiful. Love the horns in it and in general it just has a really humourous feel to it. I dunno if your delivery really took advantage of that as well as it could have though. Your overlays sound a bit bored at times lol. Your delivery is clear enough and the quality's fine though.

Honestly I thought the flow sounded like very little pre-planning was really put into it. For one thing there's no structure to end the verses, you just kinda stop when you feel like it and let the beat play for a sec before going into the next verse. Plus sometimes you just rap way out of any kind of structured time with the beat. I'm sure you will say that's what you were going for and fair enough, but for me I just found it a bit annoying. At other times though the flow was dead on, and reading the lyrics reminds me of something I always noticed with Maybe, which is that you can see how the words flow well just by reading them in your head. Wasn't a fan of how you just cut the last two verses by making your last lyrics echo, just sounds lazy to me personally.

The lyrics were decent for Internet beef, obviously with shit like this a lot of it depends on how serious you take it. It's hard to efficiently diss someone you don't really know. I mean it is kinda like you just took several things you could latch onto (i.e. the vet shit, the Scrubs references) and used that because there is little else to really say past "you suck". This isn't any slight against you personally, it's just this is normally what happens in Internet beef and it doesn't leave much room for maneuver. Stephen King line was probably the best one.

I also was a bit dissapointed you didn't use some voice clip of Cox as the intro or outro, no big complaint I just would have found that funny and it would have fit with the title.

It was a decent track, and I can't comment on who's "winning", since I have no idea about this shit, but yeah.
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Re: Dr. Cox (Scrubz Diss)

Postby Block » Aug 11th, '11, 04:16

Kez wrote:I have no idea why Scrubz would diss you lmao or what any of the backstory is on this, so forgive me.

The beat is absolutely beautiful. Love the horns in it and in general it just has a really humourous feel to it. I dunno if your delivery really took advantage of that as well as it could have though. Your overlays sound a bit bored at times lol. Your delivery is clear enough and the quality's fine though.

Honestly I thought the flow sounded like very little pre-planning was really put into it. For one thing there's no structure to end the verses, you just kinda stop when you feel like it and let the beat play for a sec before going into the next verse. Plus sometimes you just rap way out of any kind of structured time with the beat. I'm sure you will say that's what you were going for and fair enough, but for me I just found it a bit annoying. At other times though the flow was dead on, and reading the lyrics reminds me of something I always noticed with Maybe, which is that you can see how the words flow well just by reading them in your head. Wasn't a fan of how you just cut the last two verses by making your last lyrics echo, just sounds lazy to me personally.

The lyrics were decent for Internet beef, obviously with shit like this a lot of it depends on how serious you take it. It's hard to efficiently diss someone you don't really know. I mean it is kinda like you just took several things you could latch onto (i.e. the vet shit, the Scrubs references) and used that because there is little else to really say past "you suck". This isn't any slight against you personally, it's just this is normally what happens in Internet beef and it doesn't leave much room for maneuver. Stephen King line was probably the best one.

I also was a bit dissapointed you didn't use some voice clip of Cox as the intro or outro, no big complaint I just would have found that funny and it would have fit with the title.

It was a decent track, and I can't comment on who's "winning", since I have no idea about this shit, but yeah.


Fuck you, you're wrong. You can't rap.



Lol, thanks for the critique man. I always respect your opinion in this area. You're right, there wasn't any pre-planning with the flow. And the bars did stretch a lot. I don't tend to plan out a flow unless I'm doing a real song. Stuff like this is 'ehhh' to me. Ya know? But I do agree that the bars could've ended better with the last two verses. The thing with that is that this was written as one continuous verse, and I only broke it up because the chorus part of this beat would've have severely over-powered the vocals.

As far as the structured time for the beat: That's a style I've come to take on. It's something I've learned, or picked up rather, from listening to artists like Slug and Spoonfull. Some people don't like it (I didn't at first), because to some it sounds sloppy. And I can understand that... I just like to have my own flavor, as far as flow and such is concerned. The whole, "Stop. Go. Stop. Go" with every bar, doesn't appeal to me.


Again, thanks for the critique bro. I appreciate it. I'll be sure to return it either tonight or tomorrow. I want to give as solid feed as you have, so it may take a minute. :y:
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