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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Trimss » Aug 17th, '11, 01:31

He wrote half of Beautiful during his rehab so I always thought it was this one. :unsure:
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Mr Change » Aug 17th, '11, 01:39

Trimss wrote:He wrote half of Beautiful during his rehab so I always thought it was this one. :unsure:


Aww that just makes the song even more special :wub:
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Tranquil » Aug 17th, '11, 07:02

Geno wrote:Yeah, true. :y:

But what was the first thing he wrote when he got out? Just wondering because Who Want It came out late 2008, so I thought it mighta been that. Like, the first thing to be released, you know?

He wrote a fair bit of songs sober before Who Want It was released. But the first verse that was released with him being sober was Who Want It yes ;)
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Guess_Who » Aug 17th, '11, 11:09

Trimss wrote:He wrote half of Beautiful during his rehab so I always thought it was this one. :unsure:


Same here :y:
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Sam. » Aug 17th, '11, 13:55

Difficult ?
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby JakeBlack » Aug 17th, '11, 14:17

MCSam wrote:Difficult ?

:laughing:
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Sam. » Aug 17th, '11, 14:25

JakeBlack wrote:
MCSam wrote:Difficult ?

:laughing:

What's so funny d00d .
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby JakeBlack » Aug 17th, '11, 14:27

MCSam wrote:
JakeBlack wrote:
MCSam wrote:Difficult ?

:laughing:

What's so funny d00d .

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You're actually serious no he was drugged up when he did that song.
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Sam. » Aug 17th, '11, 14:29

A drugged up Eminem can write such a dope song . :coffee:
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Aug 17th, '11, 14:47

MCSam wrote:A drugged up Eminem can write such a dope song . :coffee:

its awful doe.

i think its something from relapse,i think who want it was written and recorded in the king mathers era.
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Sam. » Aug 17th, '11, 15:06

To the OP Here
Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
MCSam wrote:A drugged up Eminem can write such a dope song . :coffee:

its awful doe.

i think its something from relapse,i think who want it was written and recorded in the king mathers era.

Chk this maybe this will help you appreciate this even better .

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Technically it's not good because it's not meant to be. There's not any attempt to use multies or come up with cool rhyme patterns or metaphors.

But the lyrics are great because the lyrics tell a story and evoke emotion. Similar to I Need A Doctor, it's a storytelling song and the lyrics permeate with me personally much more than other songs that are aimed to show off his technical skill.


Why do you seem to be trying to get away from Difficult itself and broaden this out to other "emotional songs" he has done? Difficult is unique to any other Eminem song I've heard, it's definitely the most depressing Em song and in my mind there is no way it would've sounded better with multies in. It woulda sounded stupid. Do you really think Difficult would have sounded better with multies in? Yes or no? Because if so then we will never agree on this


I don't think Difficult is really comparible to many other emotional Eminem songs because it's unique. For me the only song that comes close to sounding anything like Difficult is Beautiful and I don't see him using complex rhymes and multies in there. I think multies would have possibly taken away some of the emotional impact in Difficult. The whole tone of the song is downbeat and extremely sad, his flow is slow and I don't think Eminem needs to insert multies in Difficult to be taken seriously - I mean don't you think the theme is serious enough? The song clearly isn't about proving his technical abilities so why should he be striving to be "taken seriously" as a rapper? I seriously find it difficult (no pun intended) to comprehend how anyone thinks this song could benefit from multies, lol. I don't think that lyrically the song is weak. Like i've said I think the the lrycis are good because they do a fantastic job of telling a story and evoking emotion, the song not missing any technical attributes for me.


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It's not actually that bad rhyme-wise at all, people always exaggerate how bad shit from that period is because they know he was on drugs lmao. Where as when you actually look at the Re-Up verses objectively, most are pretty decent.

And "Difficult" is not just good because it's about Proof. And lyricism is about more than just rhyming, and sometimes you sacrifice that for other things and it can be totally right to do that. Just because he's not rhyming like nuts doesn't mean it's lyrically bad.

It's a very poignant song, the way he chooses to tell little personal stories as apposed to just fully laying bare his own issues with it or recounting things redundantly. He has a very genuine and poetic mind, and way of writing and the ideas he chooses to go with are very interesting.

Like when he says "your presence... oh I went and dropped some presents off..." - Now, I'm not saying that wordplay alone is so brilliant, but it's the execution of the transition. The way he makes it sound so casual as if he's genuinely relaying his memories and stumbling on a new thought etc.

He's very conversational, and natural. Most writers could not make it sound so genuine, and authentic. Even if they really meant it. They do so many bad habits, writing-wise that make it corny or unreal. He's just got it, naturally. And I'm not even saying he's necessarily THAT calculating, he's just naturally very literary-inclined obviously.

But, "Difficult" is a very good song lyrically.


You prefer hearing the assonance of ninet-Y/degrEEs over the rhyme hundred degrees/under the trees? That's odd.

"It was a hundred degrees, I was catching a sunburn, trying to walk under the trees just to get me some comfort." This just rolls off the tongue. Has a nice, digestible ABAB pattern.

Hund-red-de-grees/und-er-the-trees

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Or am I just a little snappy
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby 2PointOBoy » Aug 17th, '11, 15:20

Eminem's sober date is April 20, 2008, so its quite possible that the Who Want It verse is his first sober one, since it came out in June of that year...
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby JakeBlack » Aug 17th, '11, 15:29

2PointOBoy wrote:Eminem's sober date is April 20, 2008, so its quite possible that the Who Want It verse is his first sober one, since it came out in June of that year...

Because it could of been recorded in 2007 then released in June.
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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby Almostlity » Aug 17th, '11, 15:39

Eminems first RELEASED sober verse = Who Want It

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Re: Eminem's 1st sober verse.

Postby EminemInsider » Aug 18th, '11, 03:21

When he was 13, no?

Obviously, this thread is talking about since his pill addiction started. Maybe that's when he wrote & recorded Elevator...then he went back and added the Adam Lambert thing a year later to be funny.
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