Why Em Doesn't Do Diss Records No Mo'

[whiteamerica]

Not saying he wouldn't go out of his way again if someone tempted him enough. He would.

disagree. i doubt sellout eminem would go out of his way for something so silly. he's done going for respect imo. i wish he would just stop he's really losing a lot of respectability by putting out his recent music. he is coming back to a broken rap game to prove that he is better at the broken style these broken rappers use? that's retarded.

[Mr Change]

Not saying he wouldn't go out of his way again if someone tempted him enough. He would.

disagree. i doubt sellout eminem would go out of his way for something so silly. he's done going for respect imo. i wish he would just stop he's really losing a lot of respectability by putting out his recent music. he is coming back to a broken rap game to prove that he is better at the broken style these broken rappers use? that's retarded.

With the 'sellout' arguement aside, I really think he has settled down simply because he is older, he's not as angry at the world, he doesn't want a problem with anyone. And that isn't being a pussy, it's a respectable reason.

[whiteamerica]

With the 'sellout' arguement aside, I really think he has settled down simply because he is older, he's not as angry at the world, he doesn't want a problem with anyone. And that isn't being a pussy, it's a respectable reason.

relapse was eminem.... 8 months older made that much difference? the warning?

i'm just saying he's not the same. he's a business guy now. he signed yelawolf for christ sake. i mean he's not a cash money status failure but yelawolf is not good....

[Mr Change]

With the 'sellout' arguement aside, I really think he has settled down simply because he is older, he's not as angry at the world, he doesn't want a problem with anyone. And that isn't being a pussy, it's a respectable reason.

relapse was eminem.... 8 months older made that much difference? the warning?

i'm just saying he's not the same. he's a business guy now. he signed yelawolf for christ sake. i mean he's not a cash money status failure but yelawolf is not good....

No. I think Relapse Eminem was Em being who people wanted him to be, who he thought he should be, and what his old self was like. I think Recovery is himself, in every way. Whether the public response to Relapse brought that to his attention or not, it doesn't matter. But that's just my opinion.

Yelawolf is fine, so what?

[whiteamerica]

i disagree totally. you have it flip flopped. relapse feels so much like an em album. the production is dre. the lyrics are there. recovery is poppy production (ruins album). some lyricism, lots of punchlines. i think recovery is definitely the sellout fake album.

[Mr Change]

i disagree totally. you have it flip flopped. relapse feels so much like an em album. the production is dre. the lyrics are there. recovery is poppy production (ruins album). some lyricism, lots of punchlines. i think recovery is definitely the sellout fake album.

We could argue about Recovery being a sellout album all day and not come to a conclusion, but lets cut it down to Relapse.

It was an Eminem album, I never said it didn't feel like one. The production, the lyrics, everything. For most I can see it being more of an Em album than Recov.

But what i'm saying is, that Eminem album(Relapse), was him being who he thought he should be, who he thought ppl would want him to be coming back from a comeback, who he wanted to appear. Recovery is him trying to appeal to a different crowd, but it's also him laying back and not trying to be something he is no longer.(Whether it's him trying to be something ELSE, is another story.)

That's how I see it. I could be wrong.

[ColdWindCriminal]

Desperate cry for attention,responding to a diss made in 2003 in FREAKING 2010.Pathetic. Canibus is a good rapper and doesn't need to waste his time doing that. Since Second Round KO(an LL Cool J diss) was a hit,Canibus thought that dissing people was gonna get him more attention and get him in the spotlight,but no. If Eminem dissed Canibus back,he would be giving Canibus what he wants.

[Mr Change]

relapse was eminem.... 8 months older made that much difference? the warning?

i'm just saying he's not the same. he's a business guy now. he signed yelawolf for christ sake. i mean he's not a cash money status failure but yelawolf is not good....

Oh? What the FUCK does signing Yelawolf have to do with being a sellout? If Yela isn't "good" then clearly he isn't doing it for money, numb nuts, it's obvious he sees a different style in him.

Another thing, I think it is VERY obvious that Em signed 50 just cuz he knew gangsta-rap was gonna be huge and 50 was a HUGEEEE cash cow in that regard. So yeah, guess Em sold out 10 years ago.

i disagree totally. you have it flip flopped. relapse feels so much like an em album. the production is dre. the lyrics are there. recovery is poppy production (ruins album). some lyricism, lots of punchlines. i think recovery is definitely the sellout fake album.

Idiocy shines through the thickest of storm clouds, eh?

I agree that Relapse's production was miles ahead of Recovery's - Recovery had some nice ones though, I loved 25 To Life's beat. Does it sound more poppy? Yes. The general SOUND is relatively poppy. But are his lyrics? No. Fuck to the no.

Aside from Not Afraid, what sounds poppy? Actually, aside from Not Afraid's hook, it's hardly a pop song at all! It's Eminem being his honest self - like he has done on every single album.

He doesn't sacrifice his lyrical abilities or content on Recovery. Not at all. So what, he uses a lot of punchlines automatically means he sold out? Hell, Copywrite and the rest of the underground are littered with punchlines, good and bad ones, but that doesn't mean they've sold out...so that argument is tossed into the trash, along with his non-sacrificial lyrics/content.

What's left? His features...well, as much as I hate to say it, Lil Wayne is one of the most popular mainstream rappers out there - trust me, I would have much rather seen him work with the likes of Nas, Monche, even Jay. Pink's inclusion on the album is nothing out of the ordinary, they're both rebellious figures and I'm personally surprised that it took him 11 years into his career to work with her. And finally, Rihanna's feature was so blatantly obvious. I don't think Em believes that she has a nice voice, cuz it sucks a lot at times and I don't like it on the hook but it works - anyways, Em is writing a song from his personal perspective of a domestically violent relationship in a storytelling way and WHAT BETTER WAY TO EXPRESS THE SONG'S CONTENT by using a FEMALE celebrity who was involved with the same issue but from opposite perspectives!

So yeah, he totally sold out yo! Hell: The Sequel was even wacker! Such poppy beats on that bitch ass record too and he barely rhymes more that 2 syllables!

Thanks for your statements, my ass has been rid of all its shit now, want it back?

Epic rage

[D Chronic]

I was relatively happy writing that

lol

[Alex2012]

He's dissed everybody on Recovery

and with his account bank too.

[2PointOBoy]

Eminem:

"We ain't lookin' for beef, but if it comes our way, what do we...turn the other cheek? Come on.."

[whiteamerica]

MENZO

i was saying that recovery feels more like a poppy album in comparison to other em albums.... maybe i didn't state that or make that clear. and when i say poppy i'm talking about poppy rap. (i.e drake, mac miller, etc.) the production is really the only thing making it sound that way. the lyricism is there sometimes which i said. the punchlines are scattered and random. i don't listen to copywrite but i understand that punchlines are part of rap (though they aren't meant to be the fall back when you have nothing to write about, which is the way i see em now. which is why wayne, i think, is a total piece of shit. which is why i wish em would fucking stop.)

if you listen to em's stuff from before he throws in the occasional punchline but it's hardly noticeable and it's more of a funny quotable. now when you listen to a lot of the stuff the punchlines are constant, drawn out, and EXPLAINED.... you sit there and say "wow, listen to all this clever bullshit, what is this even about?"

how much damage can you do with a pen, i'm just as fucked up as sex in the clouds woulda been.


.......can you imagine if he had spammed metaphors and punchlines in tes or mmlp? would have ruined it totally. imo.


you can argue all day but i still think eminem is a businessman more than a rapper these days

[Manly Moose]

You do realize that one of the biggest complaints from critics with Relapse was that the production didnt reflect whats going on in rap atm (Was kinda of stupid complaint, but most critics mentioned it) and that he needed to work with other producers. Recoverys sound is Em trying to please what he thought were disapointed fans.


Also, whoever said that Em signed 50 because "They knew gangsta rap was gonna be big.........somehow" I call BS. Back then fifty could actually spit and he had a huge buzz. I remember Em saying "Paul gave me 50s mixtape and that became my shit for a few months and then I thought what if he could do his thing with me and Dre"

[WakeUpShow]

Yeah, and it makes sense because he dissed mariah because there was no way he could end up black and pregnant.