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9/11

Postby Blu » Sep 11th, '11, 23:26

Okay, you guys have probably seen this topic a million times, BUT. Let's discuss it here. Who honestly thinks that the Government, or Illuminati, or whatever blew up the Twin Towers. If you do, please explain why. If you don't, please explain why. I believe that it was the Government that did it.

So please, explain yourself children. :flutter:









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Re: 9/11

Postby Slimm » Sep 11th, '11, 23:34

I don't barely have enough knowledge to conclude anything but I find it kind of odd that there is an organisation that consists of more than 1500 architects and engineers who all say it's impossible for the towers to collapse the way it did.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Sla » Sep 11th, '11, 23:41

It's stupid to think the government did it. We are talking about the United States of America, one of the most civilized countries in the world. The government wouldn't sacrifice all those people just for some specific matter. Terrorists did it, don't let us even talk about.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Almostlity » Sep 11th, '11, 23:53

Slimm wrote:I don't barely have enough knowledge to conclude anything but I find it kind of odd that there is an organisation that consists of more than 1500 architects and engineers who all say it's impossible for the towers to collapse the way it did.


i'm not an expert but those towers would've fallen like that if the planes would've crashed like 300 meters lower.

I guess we'll never know whats the real story behind the attack.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Blu » Sep 11th, '11, 23:56

Sla wrote:It's stupid to think the government did it. We are talking about the United States of America, one of the most civilized countries in the world. The government wouldn't sacrifice all those people just for some specific matter. Terrorists did it, don't let us even talk about.



So you're telling me you think that "terrorists" could've stolen a military airliner? You're telling me that the way the towers fell wasn't "odd?" First off, the towers wouldn't even explode the way they did, they would've simply kept burning, maybe even titled over, I don't know, I'm not an architect. Shit, just take a look at some of those videos, they reveal a lot of information.

Why the government did it, I have no clue. :coffee:
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Re: 9/11

Postby Kez » Sep 12th, '11, 00:00

I definately think there's more to it than we know. There is far too much evidence and fishy shit to think about. However, since I don't feel like being attacked by the more blindly patriotic members of this site because I can't be bothered to write a giant post with conclusive 100% proof to back up my point, I will just leave it at that.
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Re: 9/11

Postby One Mic » Sep 12th, '11, 00:02

Blu wrote:Why the government did it, I have no clue. :coffee:

To justify the illegal invasion of Afghanistan so they could steal their natural resources (OIL) ?
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Re: 9/11

Postby VenomBlackViper » Sep 12th, '11, 00:16

The ants did it, proof:

http://www.break.com/index/giant-ant-co ... onder.html

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Re: 9/11

Postby ChristinaE12 » Sep 12th, '11, 01:44

Kez wrote:I definately think there's more to it than we know. There is far too much evidence and fishy shit to think about. However, since I don't feel like being attacked by the more blindly patriotic members of this site because I can't be bothered to write a giant post with conclusive 100% proof to back up my point, I will just leave it at that.



I agree with this 100%. I think there is definitely more to it than anyone truly knows and probably ever will. And for anyone to say that its impossible is pure bullshit in and of itself. Cause no one truly knows what/how everything went down.

There is just too much shady shit surrounding the whole thing. And instead of the government stepping up and putting a rest to questions.. They go and ignore/beat around bush about it all.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Sep 12th, '11, 11:22

VenomBlackViper wrote:The ants did it, proof:

http://www.break.com/index/giant-ant-co ... onder.html

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Re: 9/11

Postby Solace » Sep 12th, '11, 23:28

Sla wrote:the United States of America, one of the most civilized countries in the world

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Re: 9/11

Postby AbramIsaac » Sep 12th, '11, 23:45

Sla wrote:It's stupid to think the government did it. We are talking about the United States of America, one of the most civilized countries in the world. The government wouldn't sacrifice all those people just for some specific matter. Terrorists did it, don't let us even talk about.

You're not saying that based on any evidence that you've actually gathered.

Avoid arguing based on emotions, that should be rule one when it comes to this debate. Use facts, not reasoning based on emotions asking "WHY" because that can go against you just as well as it can go for you.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Fa-Q » Sep 13th, '11, 05:34

The way the buildings were built were to support each other, one floor supporting the next excluding the basement and top floor. So when 7 or 8 floors were affected by a massive fire and a enormous bullet travelling 400+ MPH hits it, that changes. That's why the second tower that was hit fell first, the plane hit the building at a more diagonal direction affecting more floors.

Every single argument the conspiracy theorists ask can be explained, logically mind you, and they choose not to believe. It has nothing to do with Muslims. A Christian could have done this just as easily, and it would not be a "Christian" act of violence. I challenge anyone in this thread (Emadyville) to give me a logical explanation as to why you think Americans would plant bombs, because we know the ones you think are responsible (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.) did not plant them, in a building knowing full well it would at the very least destroy an icon such as the WTCs. A controlled demolition is a very unique and complicated process. Have you ever seen how they do it? They gut the building and set the bombs floor by floor. Now maybe everyone working at the WTCs are blind, but I think its more logical that there weren't bombs in the buildings. '

As for WTC 7, the video ALL conspiracy theorists show is the ONE video where it appears there are a few fires. But in fact there are numerous, enormous fires if you look at videos from the other side. And please, explain to me where in any circumstance, is "Pull it" mean detonate a building. What demolition crew are you working on. But "Pull it" might mean PULL the FIREFIGHTERS.

Give me an argument, and I can refute it....with ease....The only argument that MIGHT have validity by the conspiracy theorists is, and I believe this myself, that a jet shot down Flight 93. That makes more sense than the story we've been told. But if the true story would come out, then hysterical Americans, even in loo of what had just happen, would still think it was some kind of cover up.

Bottom line, conspiracy theorists in this circumstance's Bible "Loose Change" is full of holes a Mack truck could drive through. And instead of a theory that is summed up in a paragraph (this is an analogy) it is a bunch of sentences strewn together. What I mean by that is, its a lot of reaching and not a lot of logic or common sense.
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Re: 9/11

Postby Innovation » Sep 13th, '11, 18:10

One Mic wrote:
Blu wrote:Why the government did it, I have no clue. :coffee:

To justify the illegal invasion of Afghanistan so they could steal their natural resources (OIL) ?


You honestly believe the US would murder 3,000 of its own people and destroy two key financial buildings just to justify invading another country? I know a lot of people believe this but to me, it's ridiculous.

Also, Afghanistan doesn't even have any oil reserves. It does produce natural gas but not much. The US are the biggest natural gas producers in the world. Does it really make sense that the US would invade a country for natural gas, when they produce ~ 20,000 times more? No it doesn't. Afghanistan are not rich in resources. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that the US may have had counter-terrorism in mind when they led the invasion?
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Re: 9/11

Postby Fa-Q » Sep 13th, '11, 20:31

Innovation wrote:
One Mic wrote:
Blu wrote:Why the government did it, I have no clue. :coffee:

To justify the illegal invasion of Afghanistan so they could steal their natural resources (OIL) ?


You honestly believe the US would murder 3,000 of its own people and destroy two key financial buildings just to justify invading another country? I know a lot of people believe this but to me, it's ridiculous.

Also, Afghanistan doesn't even have any oil reserves. It does produce natural gas but not much. The US are the biggest natural gas producers in the world. Does it really make sense that the US would invade a country for natural gas, when they produce ~ 20,000 times more? No it doesn't. Afghanistan are not rich in resources. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that the US may have had counter-terrorism in mind when they led the invasion?

And they wouldnt have to blow up buildings to invade, all they would need is some faulty information. Plus, if they needed a reason, they wouldnt take out three buildings plus attack one of their important headquarters. Think about it. ;)
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