Dj Premier Bans J. Beiber From BET Cypher

[Sam.]

@Sam: This is true. Well, only way we'll know is if we just sit back and watch. I'm getting the feeling even he's tired of the songs he makes. I don't think he wants to be an artist to make songs just for kids and expects to be taken seriously. I think if rappers help him out, we could get something we may like. Who really knows?

Time is the key when you're a young Artist and already have a big name in this Art.He's 16 or 17 something ,he is just trying to put all his hands in the Pie and take out anything that he would able to salvage with ,ignoring whether he will be taken serious or not. His voice has to mature a lot to Rap lmao that adds another two years ,till then he can practice and improve.Luda is wasting his time if he thinks that he can make him Rap at this point of time and get some recognition.

[2PointOBoy]

"So, Justin, you gotta take a backseat on that one. Write your own rhymes, honey. You gotta call him honey on that one."

[Fa-Q]

Haha it was ghost written by Luda too....pathetic....GIVE UP GOMEZ!!!

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Oh so preemo mad JB had luda write for him but he dont mind getting that agu..............Fuck that nvm

IMA FUCKING CHILL!

honestlt though,fuck beiber,no place for him in no cypher but preemo contradict himself,he one of my favs

[JamaicanPattlez]

@Sam: This is true. Well, only way we'll know is if we just sit back and watch. I'm getting the feeling even he's tired of the songs he makes. I don't think he wants to be an artist to make songs just for kids and expects to be taken seriously. I think if rappers help him out, we could get something we may like. Who really knows?

Time is the key when you're a young Artist and already have a big name in this Art.He's 16 or 17 something ,he is just trying to put all his hands in the Pie and take out anything that he would able to salvage with ,ignoring whether he will be taken serious or not. His voice has to mature a lot to Rap lmao that adds another two years ,till then he can practice and improve.Luda is wasting his time if he thinks that he can make him Rap at this point of time and get some recognition.

This is true, maybe Luda's trying to pull a Dre with Bieber. Then again, Em could write before Dre knew of him. Let's see what happens in 2 years.

[Sekou]

Justin Bieber will never ever get any recognition as a rapper from anyone who knows Hip Hop. Not possible.

[JamaicanPattlez]

Justin Bieber will never ever get any recognition as a rapper from anyone who knows Hip Hop. Not possible.

I agree, but who really knows? What if he was able to somehow pop out a 2011-Illmatic? Not likely, but I mean, you couldn't really ignore that if that happened.

[Sam.]

Justin Bieber will never ever get any recognition as a rapper from anyone who knows Hip Hop. Not possible.

I agree, but who really knows? What if he was able to somehow pop out a 2011-Illmatic? Not likely, but I mean, you couldn't really ignore that if that happened.

If he ever gets to that stage ,believe me he will be known as the White Lil Wayne.

[Sekou]

Justin Bieber will never ever get any recognition as a rapper from anyone who knows Hip Hop. Not possible.

I agree, but who really knows? What if he was able to somehow pop out a 2011-Illmatic? Not likely, but I mean, you couldn't really ignore that if that happened.

He won't. He'll never be an extraordinary lyricist and how should he ever release any rap music with appealing, credible subject matter?

Seriously, it's impossible.

[JamaicanPattlez]

Justin Bieber will never ever get any recognition as a rapper from anyone who knows Hip Hop. Not possible.

I agree, but who really knows? What if he was able to somehow pop out a 2011-Illmatic? Not likely, but I mean, you couldn't really ignore that if that happened.

If he ever gets to that stage ,believe me he will be known as the White Lil Wayne.

............ Oh God.

@Sekou: True. I don't think he'd have decent subject matter.

[Sekou]

I also don't think he'd have the necessary breath control, utterance to make his voice and flows interesting. These things can be learned though, but honestly, I don't see that happening.

Did you see that video of him covering the first verse of Lose Yourself at one of his shows? Worse than Taylor Swift. Most of the people on this forum could do it better, maybe even Mahmoud.

And also, his chances of remaining successful are a lot higher in that cross-genre pop music he's doing so I doubt he'll quit that anytime soon.

[Kez]

Let's forget that it's Justin Bieber, so people can't blame this on the fact it's him. Anyone who tries to get onto the cypher without even writing their own verse is a douche regardless, I agree completely with the decision and would be disgusted if anyone was let on without writing their own shit.

[JamaicanPattlez]

I also don't think he'd have the necessary breath control, utterance to make his voice and flows interesting. These things can be learned though, but honestly, I don't see that happening.

Did you see that video of him covering the first verse of Lose Yourself at one of his shows? Worse than Taylor Swift. Most of the people on this forum could do it better, maybe even Mahmoud.

And also, his chances of remaining successful are a lot higher in that cross-genre pop music he's doing so I doubt he'll quit that anytime soon.

Very true. Maybe he's trying to pull a Chris Brown and experiment?

[Sam.]

I also don't think he'd have the necessary breath control, utterance to make his voice and flows interesting. These things can be learned though, but honestly, I don't see that happening.

Did you see that video of him covering the first verse of Lose Yourself at one of his shows? Worse than Taylor Swift. Most of the people on this forum could do it better, maybe even Mahmoud.

And also, his chances of remaining successful are a lot higher in that cross-genre pop music he's doing so I doubt he'll quit that anytime soon.

Very true. Maybe he's trying to pull a Chris Brown and experiment?

He by default has a pretty boy Image ,this will hamper him as far as being taken serious is concerned.

[Sukot]

I also don't think he'd have the necessary breath control, utterance to make his voice and flows interesting. These things can be learned though, but honestly, I don't see that happening.

Did you see that video of him covering the first verse of Lose Yourself at one of his shows? Worse than Taylor Swift. Most of the people on this forum could do it better, maybe even Mahmoud.

And also, his chances of remaining successful are a lot higher in that cross-genre pop music he's doing so I doubt he'll quit that anytime soon.

Very true. Maybe he's trying to pull a Chris Brown and experiment?

He by default has a pretty boy Image ,this will hamper him as far as being taken serious is concerned.

I agree. The image he has now, and the amount of people that hate him, means that even in the shocking occurance that he did turn out to be a good rapper, I think it would be difficult for him to be accepted.

It reminds me a bit of back when Britney Spears did a couple of RnB songs. They really weren't that bad imo, but I think the fact that she was Britney Spears, "princess of pop", etc. meant she didn't get played on urban radio, etc. I think it would be a similar thing here with Justin.

I feel a bit bad for Justin really. I know this sounds silly, but in a few years he'll probably look back at the songs he did and regret it so much.