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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby Master Chief » Nov 11th, '11, 01:13

Trimss wrote:Honestly, I was just hating for the sake of it and to make this thread a little funnier. I'm not saying that to excuse anything,I still think Drake is soft and I will always think it, but I've liked this more than Thank Me Later. (inb4lookhechangedhismind)

In fact, there are some good songs to listen to before going to sleep. But I'm really surprised to see that people think Drake is actually better than Eminem or something. If you want to compare them, then do it right.

I think I like the "poppiest" song Drake ever made. (Find your love) He's a decent artist to me, but this album is already getting overrated as fuck (AOTY? Really?) and I hate that. That's why I also hate from times to times on WTT , because they were overrated as FUCK. Great album, YEAH. but it doesn't deserve to be called classic. Just like this album, it's good but nowhere a classic.

Drake's singing > Eminem's
Eminem's rapping > Drake's.

Drake is a better singer but nowhere near a better rapper. And he will never be. And it's true that he mixes singing with rap and it does have a good vibe, but I can't take him seriously as a rapper.

This album is AOTY worthy brah. What are YOUR top 5 of the year if neither WTT or Take Care are in it? I'm not gonna bash you for putting BME in it (I'm sure it's in your Top 5) but I really, REALLY think that it's far from it and should not be in anyone's Top 10. The songs with a direction are terrible and his punchlines evidently grew worse. It's flaws have become easier to point out as time went on. But, BME has three really good songs at least.

Take Care definitely has gotten incredible reception and deservingly so. It could be seen as a classic in the future, the reviews for this album are bound to be similar to those of MBDTF. Difference is, that this album deserves much appraisal.

Drake is a great rapper. He's an above average lyricist and a good rhymer. Lyrically, I prefer Take Care to BME (by a whole lot, may I add). His flows are definitely more varied on this album too. Listen to HYFR, he experiments with a double time flow and the result was amazing. Eminem may be a better rhymer, and better with flows but that's about it. This is currently of course, Recovery Eminem was so much better than current Eminem that's it embarrassing.

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bigray wrote:This album is AWFUL...I just deleted the whole album from my phone and computer!


I agree, everything that isn't hardcore rap sucks.


haha.

Considering the market is over-saturated with softer hip hop, this excuse doesn't work. That notion would apply if a aggressive album is overlooked because it doesn't suit the current trend in hip hop. Not even WTT was an aggressive album, in fact it was far from it, but it receieved recognition and acclaim because it was a good album. We're in 2011 right now dun, hip hop has completely shifted, no one is gonna bypass an album because of the direction of the album.

It's a cop out to try and use that excuse for someone's opinion of the album.

You wanna know my opinion? Drake's albums sucks. For starters it's not even a hip hop record, from the outset this dude tries to get you in a mood for love, which can be ignored if there's quality material, but simply, there's far too much singing on the album for it to be considered even a hip-pop track, it's simply not hip hop. Happening to rhyme every now and then doesn't make you a rapper, or it a rap album, otherwise countless Country singers who also use profuse rhymes in their lyrics could label themselves as a rappers, rhyming doesn't mean rapping.

Drake is an artist who's gonna sound really good when he first comes out because he's fresh and his sound is novel and interesting, but the trouble was he had no charisma and his formula was predictable. He ran out of things to talk about after one EP, as good as that was. The album is full of fillers may sound appealing to most now, but just like Thank Me Later, within a few months it's gonna be overlooked. This album is no different to his first.

The reason why people don't jump on someone like B.o.B when he does his singing and crossover tracks is simple, well for one they do, otherwise B.o.B wouldn't come out the way he did on his last mixtape and shout so loudly about being No Genre. Anyway, the other reason is simple, B.o.B is NOT competing. B.o.B is releasing, but not competing, Drake clearly is, and when he comes out saying that the throne is for the taking, people are gonna stand up. If Drake came out with tracks that sound half as good I'm on One, this album would be dope. But he didn't, he went FAR too left.

The initial response to his first album was great, but within months the flaws became more and more evident his formula was noticeably stale. Then Drake went in and recorded this album because of that response, and came out saying this would be different. It's the same, and within a few months the response will be the same. Then Drake will come out with his next album saying what he was before this.

Oh yeah, RIP to the Overweight Lover too. We always had nothing but love for you Mr. Myers.

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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby 12characters » Nov 11th, '11, 03:24

Geno wrote:Any good?

Check it out and see for yourself, bro. :)

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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby 12characters » Nov 11th, '11, 03:33

Geno wrote:I hate Drake, I'm heavily relying on other's opinions lol.

I'll check it eventually though. :y:


I think that um... conversation(?) :unsure: that took place earlier in this thread, pretty much said everything that could be said about the album. Personally, I wasn't feeling it (besides a few tracks).
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby asid12345678 » Nov 11th, '11, 06:44

I understand if someone doesn't like thiS album but if someone says BOB's album was a CLASSIC . If Drake's album is not hip hop nor r&b then what about BOB's album ?? Pop rap??
Well , to the person who hates Drake , it's called genre blending . BOB isn't lyrical . Calling that album a CLASSIC is like calling something like The END by black eyed peas world changing . On Adventures it felt as if he is a guest rapper in his own songs . It has energy ad charisma but if there was any actual rapping then I couldn't really make out . Bet I , Fame , 5th Dimension are great songs . But thats all there is to it ,undifferentiated mass of sticky-sweet radio friendly songs . Listening to Thank Me Later I might say the same thing but Take care is way better than any of those albums .
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby asid12345678 » Nov 11th, '11, 08:48

Lello wrote:B.o.B's album:

-Great Voice
-Great Music/Beats
-Good Lyrics
-Sounds Good
-Variety...


Drake's Album:

-Annoying Voice
-Beats sound the same except Lord Knows
-Mehhh Lyrics
-Sounds Bad (for me)
-Monotonous (REALLY.... REALLY.... MONOTONOUS)

Drake represents faggotry, B.o.B represents creativity and imagination.... B.o.B wins


ok..and will you also agree that BOB is in the top 10 GOATS?
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby asid12345678 » Nov 11th, '11, 14:33

*name* wrote:lol @ Lello saying B.o.B has a better voice than Drake.

The only track that I still play out of Adventures is Past My Shades, that track's sick, I'll give you props to that. And I'm a big fan of B.o.B, but his album was bad, it isn't comparable to Take Care. If you picked one of his mixtapes though like B.o.B vs. Bobby Ray, No Genre and May 25 (Not sure about name) then it's alright, but AOBR is just whack.


and while BOB is more radio friendly then Drake is..I wonder why he doesn't sell as much as him :shifty:
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby 2PointOBoy » Nov 11th, '11, 15:10

Lello wrote:B.o.B's album: Sounds Good
Drake's Album: -Monotonous (REALLY.... REALLY.... MONOTONOUS)
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby asid12345678 » Nov 11th, '11, 15:18

haha..some people keep ignoring the good points and just keep hating on it with the same old baseless reasons .. nobody replied to the sales thing ??

also it's funny cuz if Eminem co signs the album tomorrow or tweets "take care is dope" , most of the posters in this thread will post some bullshit like "the album really picked up on me " or "shady is rightttt , take care is dope" :shakehead:
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby xMmAx20 » Nov 11th, '11, 17:16

Wasn't really feeling most of the album besides a couple tracks, it is better then TML however. :y:
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby BumShiv » Nov 11th, '11, 17:19

If he had one more track like Headlines I would have been 100% satisfied. Still a great album for me
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby asid12345678 » Nov 11th, '11, 19:25

RecoveryEminem wrote:If he had one more track like Headlines I would have been 100% satisfied. Still a great album for me

like Headlines means having the same kind of songs ?
Because if you're talking about Rap then Lord Knows is a classic song to me . Also look what you've done is dope . soo there you go , not one but two songs
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby BumShiv » Nov 11th, '11, 19:31

asid12345678 wrote:
RecoveryEminem wrote:If he had one more track like Headlines I would have been 100% satisfied. Still a great album for me

like Headlines means having the same kind of songs ?
Because if you're talking about Rap then Lord Knows is a classic song to me . Also look what you've done is dope . soo there you go , not one but two songs


I ment like a more chill rap song. Sorta like a radio one. LK and LWYD are both amazing to me :worship:
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby asid12345678 » Nov 11th, '11, 20:01

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RecoveryEminem wrote:If he had one more track like Headlines I would have been 100% satisfied. Still a great album for me

like Headlines means having the same kind of songs ?
Because if you're talking about Rap then Lord Knows is a classic song to me . Also look what you've done is dope . soo there you go , not one but two songs


I ment like a more chill rap song. Sorta like a radio one. LK and LWYD are both amazing to me :worship:

I get what you trying to say ..Headlines is still dope tho ..and idk , don't think Drake really had radios in mind when he made this album..maybe the Take Care Rihanna joint will be a hit
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby Master Chief » Nov 11th, '11, 20:13

Lello wrote:B.o.B's album:

-Great Voice
-Great Music/Beats
-Good Lyrics
-Sounds Good
-Variety...


Drake's Album:

-Annoying Voice
-Beats sound the same except Lord Knows
-Mehhh Lyrics
-Sounds Bad (for me)
-Monotonous (REALLY.... REALLY.... MONOTONOUS)

Drake represents faggotry, B.o.B represents creativity and imagination.... B.o.B wins

I don't even know what to reply to this. Never in my life have I seen so many shit posts come out from one poster. Fuck off from this thread, you morbidly obese foreigner.
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Re: Take Care Discussion Thread[Leaked]

Postby Trimss » Nov 11th, '11, 20:22

@MC In no order:

The Sideline Story
Watch The Throne
Hell The Sequel
All 6's 7's
Red or Section 80 (which I finally listened! :y:)

Now I know my Hip Hop tastes aren't the best man, so don't feel the need to come and jump at me saying I only listen to shit lmao.
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