When Eminem performed high..

[Sekou]

My brother came up to me the other month and literally was like, "If you've done weed, it's not a big deal. Alcohol is way worse" then walked away...


he's in med school, so I trust his judgment.

Nah but seriously, I remember smoking a lot of weed at a party last spring and I was chilling on a huge couch and then someone put on "Not Afraid" and I just perfectly rapped along the entire song (yes, I even sung the bridge). And that was about 2 or 3 days after the song dropped, I hadn't even realized I knew all the lyrics by heart.

It messes with your memory but I guess it also enhances your musical perception.

[WakeUpShow]

Weed has actually been shown to promote the growth of existing brain cells...not kill them. And when alcohol is used as a medicine (besides to disinfect) we'll start talking about which one is healthier.

[Sukot]

I've never even drank alcohol before. My parents are mormons, so I'm not allowed to. So my life is going to be really boring, but I'll probably live until I'm like 85 years-old or something lol.

I've seen alcohol in medicines before though, but according to most scientists it's more harmful than canabis.

[Guess_Who]

Excluding the times when he was high off E or another similar drug [and we don't know how often he did those], I'm pretty sure he was mostly on depressants, like alcohol, Vicodin, Valium, Xanax [marijuana also has depressant properties, although it's really unclassifiable], etc - particularly because he's said he took drugs before performances to calm his nerves. They wouldn't make him hyper or anything like that, they make you calm.

TBH, I'm surprised he remembered all his lyrics while high.

I agree with you. And also I guess during a time he had his addictions under a certain control.

Then his addictions went out of hand, I remember that interview in 2006 in 106 and park, he could hardly speak .

[EminemInsider]

He was always high during his SSLP and after; read 'The Way I Am' and he admits as such. If you watch videos of him on the Warped Tour, it's plain to see.

Incidentally, who's to say he remembered all his lyrics? A fair number of times he didn't, and Proof would fill in the blanks or the crowd would. I'm not suggesting that he forgot his lyrics a lot, but the comments above suggest that he was a perfectly scripted performer. He was quite the opposite (in a good way).

No, he was NEVER high during SSLP. On tour after, maybe, but SSLP was a sober album.

[_Hawk_]

He was always high during his SSLP and after; read 'The Way I Am' and he admits as such. If you watch videos of him on the Warped Tour, it's plain to see.

Incidentally, who's to say he remembered all his lyrics? A fair number of times he didn't, and Proof would fill in the blanks or the crowd would. I'm not suggesting that he forgot his lyrics a lot, but the comments above suggest that he was a perfectly scripted performer. He was quite the opposite (in a good way).

No, he was NEVER high during SSLP. On tour after, maybe, but SSLP was a sober album.

As the guy above said, he PERFORMED high. Please understand the nature of the fucking topic before you make stupid posts. In any case, there's no evidence that some of SSLP wasn't induced by drugs. Certainly we can guess that most of it wasn't, but who knows what he got up to in those days? Certainly following a suicide attempt, we have no idea what pills he might have taken in the run up to the SSLP, and certainly it would be credible to suggest that some of the lines he used from his lyric sheets (for tracks included in the SSLP) were resulting from drugs. He said that he only really got into drugs when he started rapping about it, and really this is the only evidence we have to go by.

[_Hawk_]

What part of 'more or less sober' do you not understand? Jesus. My point was that it is possible that some of the lines from tracks on the SSLP were induced by drugs (regardless of whether or not he was sober when composing the tracks and writing the verses) and thus supporting my point that no-one can really tell whether or not 'some' of the SSLP owes itself to drug use.

Here's an example: I smoke some weed, and jot down some lines.
A few months later, I'm writing a verse, I flick through my lyric sheets and decide to use some of those lines. Clearly drugs have influenced this track.

That is my point: no one can point to the SSLP and say that it was done completely sober, because no-one has any idea whether or not Em was on anything after his suicide attempt, in the run up to the SSEP and the SSLP.

Consequently, my argument is completely credible. In reality, it's a theory. I'm not disregardin the evidence that he was 'more or less sober', but then more or less is not a certainty, and thus my point still stands.

[EminemInsider]

As the guy above said, he PERFORMED high. Please understand the nature of the fucking topic before you make stupid posts. In any case, there's no evidence that some of SSLP wasn't induced by drugs. Certainly we can guess that most of it wasn't, but who knows what he got up to in those days? Certainly following a suicide attempt, we have no idea what pills he might have taken in the run up to the SSLP, and certainly it would be credible to suggest that some of the lines he used from his lyric sheets (for tracks included in the SSLP) were resulting from drugs. He said that he only really got into drugs when he started rapping about it, and really this is the only evidence we have to go by.

Sorry, but you're the one who made the "stupid post." Re-read:

He was always high during his SSLP and after

You said he was "always high" DURING AND AFTER SSLP, which is flat-out false and idiotic.

Eminem never attempted suicide, either. He got depressed and popped some pills, resulting in an overdose. He vomited them back up and lived. He wasn't actually trying to kill himself.

[_Hawk_]

He always performed high during those days. Check out the performances from the warped tour and the like. He's clearly on drugs. Sorry, what part of that don't you understand

And please prove to me what part of the aforementioned event can't be seen as a suicide attempt? Em has even said in his lyrics: 'I've tried suicide once and I'll try it again', so please fuck off and get your fucking facts straight. He was at an incredibly low point in his life and encountered a moment of madness. If he had died it would have been suicidal.

[EminemInsider]

He always performed high during those days. Check out the performances from the warped tour and the like. He's clearly on drugs. Sorry, what part of that don't you understand

What part of THIS don't you understand, moron?:

He was always high during his SSLP and after

That's what YOU wrote. Do you not understand what "during and after" means?

And please prove to me what part of the aforementioned event can't be seen as a suicide attempt?

A suicide attempt means you actually TRY to kill yourself. Popping pills because you're depressed doesn't constitute a "suicide attempt." Nor does making a 1 millimeter slit in your wrist and stopping, or parking your car on a railroad track and then driving off after a few minutes of waiting around. Tinkering with the IDEA of suicide and actually ATTEMPTING it are completely different matters.

It's easy to kill yourself. People who actually try to kill themselves either die or are hospitalized and kept under psychiatric evaluation. They don't vomit up some pills and go back to life as usual. And Eminem said in an interview that he doesn't think he was really trying to kill himself, it was just "something inside was telling me, 'more pills, more pills."

Em has even said in his lyrics: 'I've tried suicide once and I'll try it again', so please fuck off and get your fucking facts straight. He was at an incredibly low point in his life and encountered a moment of madness. If he had died it would have been suicidal.

You can not be fucking serious.

Yeah, and he also said that he went out and raped 6 girlfriends. He's also said that he and Dre are fucking with hats off. He also said, "hell yeah, I punch my bitch/And beat my kids in public." He also said he doesn't like rap anyway, he's just trying to get his porno career started.

[_Hawk_]

The suicide lines have been numerous in his tracks. In his book, The Way I am (and perhaps even in Angry Blonde) it is written in the context of the event being a suicide-attempt. People slit their wrists for fun; it's an extremely poor comparison. Are you saying that when Kim slit her wrists it wasn't a suicide attempt? Get a fucking grip. How do you know he didn't want to kill himself? Obviously he's glad he didn't, but during that moment of madness, no-one knows what he was really thinking. The FACT is that, had he tolerated those pills, he would most likely have died, and it would have been a suicide. Let that part slide; I'm right.

You are completely correct: he says a lot of things which aren't true, but as I previosuly stated, the suicide line is numerous enough to support my allegation. The only way you can disprove this point is by providing me with an official diagnosis [of this event], so good luck with that


And when I wrote: 'he was always high during his SSLP and after' I was replying to your previous post to say that, during all of his performances (which are available to watch) for the SSLP, he is high. High as a kite. Show me where he isn't, and I will happily apologise. Note that these performaces were after the album was released. Although, incidentally, when he performed just before it was released (in an interview for a noteworthy rap-website [the name escapes me]) he was definitely not sober. Not necessarily high; but not sober.


I'm done with this now. You may not agree with my take on the suicide situation, but I think my argument holds a lot more credibility than yours. Kudos to you for actually providing interesting debate though. Unlike most people on here; you don't appear to be a deluded, dumb-arse stan who wants Eminem's cock in your arse.


Let's put it this way: SSLP was compiled in a sober-state, and performed in a not-so sober state. Agreed? (note that the former doesn't negate my suggestion that some of the lines used in tracks owe their origins to drug use).

[Mr Change]

Can't we all just agree that whether or not he was on drugs during SSLP, it wasn't until the TES concerts where it started affecting/altering his performance?

TES Em could perform, but he looked like a brainless vegetable compared to MMLP-era performances.

Whereas on live-tv performances, he seemed fine again.

[_Hawk_]

Yeah, I completely agree

I actually think that EminemInsider (an ironic name, given my comment about Stan's wanting to anal Em haha ) has a lot of interesting things to say. I may appear to get hot headed, but it was an interesting debate.

Does anyone think 8 mile impacted on Em's Anger Management tour performances? Obviously because of the pills, but maybe he wanted to appear more 'serious'? Obviously a lot of encore would refute this :P

[Mr Change]

Yeah, I completely agree

I actually think that EminemInsider (an ironic name, given my comment about Stan's wanting to anal Em haha ) has a lot of interesting things to say. I may appear to get hot headed, but it was an interesting debate.

Does anyone think 8 mile impacted on Em's Anger Management tour performances? Obviously because of the pills, but maybe he wanted to appear more 'serious'? Obviously a lot of encore would refute this :P

Nah dude like I said, the drugs/pills(from 8 mile) really started to affect him on stage around TES. He just didn't seem all there, not 'serious'.

And then, by the Encore-era he was just pilled out of his mind

[_Hawk_]

Yeah i completely agree. What I mean is, although he always looked a bit out of it, he didn't goof around as much. Remember the hip hop witch DVD which he didn't want released as he thought it would ruin his 8 mile image? It's possible that had an impact too. Both TES and encore performances seemed much grander and staged that the ones previously. I imagine that he planned to not act as crazy.

But you're right; those pills sapped a lot of the energy. Interestingly now that he's sober, he dances around like a 40 year old man... Wait a minute...