Fourth verse of "Going Through Changes" really hits home.

[Blu]

Anyone who's been through heartbreak, will vibe with this verse.
It happened to me, just a couple hours ago. I was bawling for maybe an hour and a half?
"Going Through Changes" is my go-to song whenever I feel down, but after listening to the fourth verse, it's like the lyrics connect, sending messages throughout my heart.

It's crazy, I know. Just wanted to say something. Cheers.

[LMShady]

It's probably my favourite verse in Recovery, I think...
Especially the build up and "Wake up in the hospital" bit to the end the first time I heard that I was like WOW.

[DanWS]

One of those verses since his comeback that makes me feel he still has it in him to write to the same level he could in his prime. Unfortunately we've heard nothing close to it since Recovery.

[EminemBase]

One of those verses since his comeback that makes me feel he still has it in him to write to the same level he could in his prime. Unfortunately we've heard nothing close to it since Recovery.

We've heard plenty of brilliance since.

If I want emotionally-charged verses then I'll listen to The Eminem Show. Or Recovery.

Enough of it, time to be creative.

[EminemBase]

One of those verses since his comeback that makes me feel he still has it in him to write to the same level he could in his prime. Unfortunately we've heard nothing close to it since Recovery.

Only problem is that he needs inspiration, he's been rapping for more than 15 years; he needs action in his life.
Nothing's going on around him now(hopefully not) , he's just writing about killing bitches and slaughtering people in different ways trying to be creative with it.

But it's these kinda verses that make me still have hope that he could drop a better album than Recovery if he really sit his mind to it.

We don't need things happening in his life, he needs to be creative.

The amount of potential concepts if endless. If an artist HAS to have something going on in their life or begins to solely rely on that, they're in big trouble, and will hit a wall when empty.

Hence, Encore.

He's clearly a creative guy. We need more ideas, abstract concepts, originality etc.

[DanWS]

One of those verses since his comeback that makes me feel he still has it in him to write to the same level he could in his prime. Unfortunately we've heard nothing close to it since Recovery.

We've heard plenty of brilliance since.

Lol, no we haven't.

[EminemBase]

One of those verses since his comeback that makes me feel he still has it in him to write to the same level he could in his prime. Unfortunately we've heard nothing close to it since Recovery.

We've heard plenty of brilliance since.

Lol, no we haven't.

All of his Bad Meets Evil verses are fantastic, his "I Need a Doctor" verses are great and evocative, and his cypher verse is classic.

[DanWS]

All of his Bad Meets Evil verses are fantastic, his "I Need a Doctor" verses are great and evocative, and his cypher verse is classic.

All of his Bad Meets Evil verses definitely aren't fantastic. Welcome 2 Hell is by far his most impressive, but throughout the rest of the EP he is mainly just rapping about being violent to "hoes" he invented in his mind, pretending to be angry by shouting, and using rubbish punchlines. He even has instances of fucking up the flow on a couple of occasions. There's nothing creative or original in most of what he is rapping about on the EP. Outside of the that, some of his features since Recovery have been appalling (most notably Roman's Revenge and Throw It Up). His INAD verses were significantly better in their content and flow. His cypher verse was an improvement from most of the stuff he did in 2011 but I wasn't blown away.

[EminemBase]

All of his Bad Meets Evil verses are fantastic, his "I Need a Doctor" verses are great and evocative, and his cypher verse is classic.

All of his Bad Meets Evil verses definitely aren't fantastic. Welcome 2 Hell is by far his most impressive, but throughout the rest of the EP he is mainly just rapping about being violent to "hoes" he invented in his mind, pretending to be angry by shouting, and using rubbish punchlines. He even has instances of fucking up the flow on a couple of occasions. There's nothing creative or original in most of what he is rapping about on the EP. Outside of the that, some of his features since Recovery have been appalling (most notably Roman's Revenge and Throw It Up). His INAD verses were significantly better in their content and flow. His cypher verse was an improvement from most of the stuff he did in 2011 but I wasn't blown away.

There isn't a bad verse from him on the EP, and none are off flow.

As for him just rapping about being violent etc. - I'd rather hearing him attempting to be humorously seething and coming up with punchlines and trying to tap back into his wit than I would another predictable verse about fame, his daughters and his struggle.

Rapping about your own life, conceptually, is the most obvious and easiest route. Just documenting his life through rhyme is uncreative and boring. I don't listen for melodrama.

He's one of the most creative artists in history, and he created one of the seminal masterpieces in hip-hop (The Marshall Mathers LP). So it's simply a waste of his talent.

I tire of his self-analysis or life documenting very quickly, he should truly nip the introspection in the bud now, as he planned to do when he first came back. He's made music out of most of the significant events of his life and incredible art out of some of the most extreme ("Kim")...

At this point, he's a millionaire doing what he LOVES to do every day. The focus should not be on him, as like it or not, he is not going through a struggle and even if he was, I don't need to hear it anymore. It's fucking redundant. I want originality.

He's being overly misogynistic and angry as he's clearly tapping back into his earlier mindset, or attempting to, of The Marshall Mathers LP. You can say he's 'pretending' to be angry, but that's an aimless thing to say. He's an artist, he's supposed to pretend. Not everything he does or says has to be real, he SHOULD explore abstract concepts and he SHOULD embody roles. He was 'pretending' on "Kill You" too. He also doesn't really rape women and murder people.

What made his early work intriguing was not his introspection, it was his persona-juggling, comedic wit, brash and bold originality (with concepts and ideas) and provocation. Where he's going with things like "Almost Famous" and "Above the Law" is a much better step in the right direction.

[Blu]

I really wanna see a song where he's rapping from the grave. Ya know? He just passed away and he's saying how terrible hip-hop will be without him.

[Amaranthine]

I keep waiting for something about his dad, a la Jay's "Where Have You Been?". But I've resigned myself to the fact that it's most likely not going to happen...

[2PointOBoy]

There isn't a bad verse from him on the EP, and none are off flow.

Wasn't expecting this from a dude like EmBase. Em fucked up his flow on Take From Me & Loud Noises. His flow on Take From Me was Elite rappers like Em should not fuck up like that.

As for the verses, I think judging their quality can be subjective. Other than Take From Me & Loud Noises, I didn't have a problem with the rest. The shit punchlines took the sheen off most verses for me.

[EminemBase]

There isn't a bad verse from him on the EP, and none are off flow.

Wasn't expecting this from a dude like EmBase. Em fucked up his flow on Take From Me & Loud Noises. His flow on Take From Me was Elite rappers like Em should not fuck up like that.

As for the verses, I think judging their quality can be subjective. Other than Take From Me & Loud Noises, I didn't have a problem with the rest. The shit punchlines took the sheen off most verses for me.

What are you talking about. His flow on "Take from Me" is awesome.

Way it speeds up and slows down, intensifies like that. There's an addictiveness to it.

Rhythmically, he's ALWAYS on point. Eminem is strange in the fact... some think he's off-beat or have said it in the past, due to the fact he seems to craft flows that are independent of a beat ie. that start in his head. But they never sound rhythmically wrong.

The timing and delivery and... flow of them, is always perfect.

"Loud Noises" flow wasn't a fuck up either. I've never once heard him try to quickly fit in a word and it sound awkward or 'wrong' to my ears like I hear some other rappers do. When they're too lazy to refine a verse so they just quickly try to slip syllables in. He doesn't do that as he refines his rhymes and phrasing carefully and then flows it on-point.

[DanWS]

There isn't a bad verse from him on the EP, and none are off flow.

Yes there are and yes there are instances.

As for him just rapping about being violent etc. - I'd rather hearing him attempting to be humorously seething and coming up with punchlines and trying to tap back into his wit than I would another predictable verse about fame, his daughters and his struggle.

Rapping about your own life, conceptually, is the most obvious and easiest route. Just documenting his life through rhyme is uncreative and boring. I don't listen for melodrama.

Key word "attempting". Rapping about running over 2 hoes in his driveway, or going shopping to K-Mart only to find they don't have a size 8 in HOES, is not funny. Especially when he is in his late 30's. He has not made one punchline since Recovery that made me laugh. Also it's like you're implying that talking about hoes and making rubbish punchline jokes are the only alternatives to rapping about his fame and daughters etc. What about some innovation/originality?

He's one of the most creative artists in history, and he created one of the seminal masterpieces in hip-hop (The Marshall Mathers LP). So it's simply a waste of his talent.

It's far more a waste of his talent to be talking about utter bullshit because he doesn't have anything else to write about at the moment.

At this point, he's a millionaire doing what he LOVES to do every day. The focus should not be on him, as like it or not, he is not going through a struggle and even if he was, I don't need to hear it anymore. It's fucking redundant. I want originality.

If you want originality then how can you seriously think the stuff he is rapping about currently is brilliant? What's original about being violent/aggressive towards women at every opportunity? Or what other original concepts is he touching on these days? I find it impossible to believe that you want originality but think of his current content as brilliant.

He's being overly misogynistic and angry as he's clearly tapping back into his earlier mindset, or attempting to, of The Marshall Mathers LP. You can say he's 'pretending' to be angry, but that's an aimless thing to say. He's an artist, he's supposed to pretend. Not everything he does or says has to be real, he SHOULD explore abstract concepts and he SHOULD embody roles. He was 'pretending' on "Kill You" too. He also doesn't really rape women and murder people.

Well by admitting that he is attempting to tap into his earlier mindset, you're conceding that he isn't being original. And no, he isn't putting any sort of new original twist on it. When he wrote songs like Kill You, of course it was very tongue-in-cheek but people were shocked and had never really heard someone come across as so aggressive on a record before. It was original. And people knew about his strained relationship with his mother and his turbulent, rollercoaster relationship with Kim, so the sentiments of that song were believable. He took on the voice of potential critics and mocked them. There was a significant element of realism there because there were clear relations between what he was talking about and the events going on in his life at the time, even if we know he wasn't always being serious. What's more, his flow and rhyme patterns were so unique and interesting to listen to, which made him a captivating artist.

Fast-forward 11 years, he is in his late 30's and still rapping about punching and killing women, but this time around it's all completely fictional and unconvincing, and you can smell it a mile off. I don't buy this whole "oh he is shouting, he must be mad!"; it is so transparent I think anyone that does is clueless. Why is he still doing this 11 years later? Once you repeat concepts over and over and over again they lose their value in every way. In 2000 it was original, innovative, believable and relatable. Now, it is none of those. He clearly has run out of ideas so he is resorting to go back to this misogynistic theme that hit a home run a decade ago. Add that to diarrhoea jokes and quips about fast-food joints and it's just

What made his early work intriguing was not his introspection, it was his persona-juggling, comedic wit, brash and bold originality (with concepts and ideas) and provocation. Where he's going with things like "Almost Famous" and "Above the Law" is a much better step in the right direction.

Almost Famous is a great track. Why? Well for one, the shouting was still new and actually fit the content of the track effectively. Two, I loved the concept of Em looking back and recapturing his early days breaking into the industry, recollecting the fuel that drove him to becoming such a brilliant and revered artist. Three, the beat fit perfectly and the hook was chilling and hard-hitting. Four, it was original and interesting. Above The Law on the other hand, like most of the songs on the EP, is much ado about nothing again, and is Em shouting aimlessley for no apparent reason for the 34534534th time. What is he actually taking about in his verse again? Oh look: "So you know if I hate fucking water-sprinklers, I don't love the hoes!!!".