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Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

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Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Blu » Jan 29th, '12, 05:09

Or do you just listen to whatever sounds good to you.

In my opinion, I listen to whatever sounds good to me.

And honestly, no one should be crowned "GOAT" because everyone is entitled to their opinions and this is hip-hop, an art form that is based on opinions.

Discuss.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Amaranthine » Jan 29th, '12, 05:10

I listen to whatever sounds good, but lyrical is a big bonus to me. I respect an artist a lot more if they're lyrical, or at least it seems like they put effort into the lyrics.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Blu » Jan 29th, '12, 05:15

Amaranthine wrote:I listen to whatever sounds good, but lyrical is a big bonus to me. I respect an artist a lot more if they're lyrical, or at least it seems like they put effort into the lyrics.

I feel you, being a good lyricist is a plus for me too. But I just don't understand how some people only choose to listen to artists that have insane rhyme schemes and quadruple entendre's in every song.

Sometimes, I just need to listen to the music.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby JUMPDMC » Jan 29th, '12, 05:29

Honestly 90% of the rap I listen to, I like because of the voice. You can be the most lyrical mofo on the planet but if you sound like canibus or solja boy I don't wanna hear it.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby 12characters » Jan 29th, '12, 05:33

Yeah it does, to me anyway. I need to hear effort put into the song. I don't see any effort if the rhyme schemes weren't taken seriously. Of course, if that's all they excel in, then I wouldn't listen to it either because then they would be neglecting other aspects.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Stanforever » Jan 29th, '12, 05:47

For me first impression depends on how good it sounds.but the replay value depends on how good the lyrics are.

If sounding good is the most important thing,then florida must be the greatest rapper of all time.......
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby dead prez » Jan 29th, '12, 06:07

Of course it does matter otherwise you can have a rapper blather on for a whole album about how we're all ass vapor created by extraterrestrials and that's the reason we're so interested in gathering evidence for them, than no that's retarded and it breaks my suspension of disbelief.

You can try to separate the musical aspect of rap with the lyricism but if awful lyrics are being vomited out than you can't help but notice the glaringly terrible lines, even if you intentionally try to black out the lyricism and try to make them out to be mutually exclusive.

I can relate in a way though as a lot of times I don't hang to every single word being said unless the rapper's saying something profound, telling a story, or whose whole style forces you to have to listen closely to fully enjoy their music (Rhyme Asylum for example). A lot of times though if the content is cliche or boring I tune it out and listen to the rappers as nondescript vocal makers.

Your last sentence is a heaping crock of shit though, as opinions can be terrible and wrong much like this thread.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby JUMPDMC » Jan 29th, '12, 06:15

Stanforever wrote:If sounding good is the most important thing,then florida must be the greatest rapper of all time.......


Maybe to you, personally i hate that guys voice.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Slim Fiasco » Jan 29th, '12, 11:27

With English being my foreign language, lyrics don't hit me the same way they do native people, so my tolerance for corniness is big. With that being said, the artist needs to be something special for me to hold him in high regards, but for me to enjoy a song, being slightly above average is enough.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Kill You » Jan 29th, '12, 20:59

Both. I want my music to sound good and most of the time have great lyrics...doesn't have to have the best lyrics but I'm not gonna listen to Lil B, Soulja Boy, or Waka Flocka because they aren't lyrical enough. Think Wiz isn't lyrical either, dude hardly uses multis. Sounding good is always a key element though...for example, I like Drake's Take Care album...not necessarily the most lyrical album out but he has a bunch of good sounding tracks on there. And I am definitely not even a Drake fan.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Innovation » Jan 29th, '12, 23:10

It doesn't matter too much tbh. As long as you enjoy the sound of the music, that's all that matters. However, being lyrical can improve the sound of the song for obvious reasons. It also helps me appreciate the artist more as the writing is more complex. That doesn't mean every lyrical artist sounds good though. Sadistik is very strong lyrically but I don't particularly like the "sound" of his music.

On the flip, you have artists such as Lil B who isn't lyrical, but some people like the sound of his music. I'm not one them, but it's just an example.

It's just personal preference at the end of the day. It shouldn't matter as long as you enjoy the songs they put out.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Eedee » Jan 30th, '12, 00:06

I prefer artists who write complex lyrics, like they actually sat down and took the time to produce intricate rhyme schemes - plus multi-syllable rhymes just SOUND better than simple rhymes. I also appreciate it when the artist can convey their emotions through their voice and lyrics.

Perfect example of all this: Eminem. :y:
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Manly Moose » Jan 30th, '12, 04:18

if when you say sounding good do you mean good flow, or voice? Cause for me any voice sounds bad without a good flow. Anyways, they got to be a little lyrical for me to listen to them; doesnt mean big rhymes just good lyrics if I think the rapper is retarded it will piss me off.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Fleka » Jan 30th, '12, 09:34

I prefer lyrical artists. Sure, delivery, flow and voice matter, but I listen to rap because of lyrics. I listen to rap because of the stories, wordplay, metaphors, punchlines. I love songs that you can relate to or a songs that makes you sad or pumped. If you don`t think that being lyrical is not the most important, you should swith to pop music.

There are some songs by 50 that I like. Mostly because of the beat and the way the song "bangs". But I will never like them the way I like songs like "Sing For The Moment", "The Way I Am", "Dance With The Devil", "Changes", "Role Model" ...

Lyrical artists make songs that last for generations. Mumbling some stupid and simple shit over a banging (most of the time) beat gets forgotten real fast.
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Re: Does it really matter how lyrical an artist is?

Postby Xray » Jan 30th, '12, 10:54

Obviously the more technical a rap is, the more impressive it sounds. Not in all cases though, but I'd much rather prefer meaningful lyricism over punchline songs.
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