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How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Blu » Jan 30th, '12, 10:49

Seriously, I was just listening to "What's The Difference?" and "Forgot About Dre" and he seriously changed as an artist. I don't know if you could call it "evolving", but it's kind of hard to believe that the Eminem of today is the same guy that spat on the mentioned songs above.

Nowadays (for example "Hell: The Sequel") he just sounds so CORNY trying to be a badass. If he came out with a song like "Kill You" right now, it just wouldn't sound right. It would sound awkward as hell. I don't know if it was the attitude he conveyed when he was younger, but whatever it was, until he recaptures it, Slim Shady will be lost.

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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby zedzero27 » Jan 30th, '12, 10:52

people change. that's life.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Rollimeo » Jan 30th, '12, 10:54

his brain got fucked up by all the drugs so he had to relearn almost everything
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Blu » Jan 30th, '12, 10:56

zedzero27 wrote:people change. that's life.

Nah, give me a legitimate reason to why this guy "changed" so much.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Blu » Jan 30th, '12, 11:08

^ Perfect post :laughing:

I doubt the drugs affected him that much. It's like he had a change of style.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby kiki » Jan 30th, '12, 11:24

I remember in the book THE WAY I AM he or whoever wrote as him said:

Why was I so angry all the time?

I guess that really is a growing up thing. You rebel. Then you're grown up and realize that you have responsibility - not only for your 3 kids and the woman you divorced twice but also for the people you employ.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Kill You » Jan 30th, '12, 11:26

He went on drugs, took a hiatus, came back and attempted to recreate his old self in Relapse and failed (according to the majority) and when he got shit for it he made Recovery...the drugs really fucked his brain up so he had to "relearn" how to rap. Now since Em doesn't have anything to bitch about (he didn't want to bitch anyway), he immersed himself in his Relapse character and for his next album he should do the same thing, only immerse himself into something different...he's trying to go back to his old ways right now by talking about abusing women all the time. And tbh I would rather him be making songs like The Reunion and A Kiss than him bitching about his life...I don't like those songs. I like when Em isn't being so serious, it just really depends on it's execution...sometimes that execution hits, other times it misses.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Mathers » Jan 30th, '12, 11:38

He had to learn how to rap again when he got sober.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Blu » Jan 30th, '12, 11:41

I don't think you guys are getting what I'm asking..

I mean, why is it that he sounds different on records like "What's The Difference" than he does on newer songs. Even on The Eminem Show he still had that Slim Shady vibe. Now it seems like it's lost.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Kill You » Jan 30th, '12, 11:43

Blu wrote:I don't think you guys are getting what I'm asking..

I mean, why is it that he sounds different on records like "What's The Difference" than he does on newer songs. Even on The Eminem Show he still had that Slim Shady vibe. Now it seems like it's lost.


In that case, he has changed his sound on his own. He could go back to rapping or sounding however you want, I'm sure. The only thing I don't think he could pull off is SSLP, he tried to perform My Name Is and he did it in his aggressive voice. But he could do MMLP and TES I think if he wanted to.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Blu » Jan 30th, '12, 11:45

Kill You wrote:
Blu wrote:I don't think you guys are getting what I'm asking..

I mean, why is it that he sounds different on records like "What's The Difference" than he does on newer songs. Even on The Eminem Show he still had that Slim Shady vibe. Now it seems like it's lost.


In that case, he has changed his sound on his own. He could go back to rapping or sounding however you want, I'm sure. The only thing I don't think he could pull off is SSLP. But he could do MMLP and TES I think if he wanted to.

But I doubt it would sound the same. Could you imagine if he did a revamped version of The Marshall Mathers LP? Yeah the lyrics would be there, but Slim would be gone.

I just don't think he could pull off the same attitude.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Kill You » Jan 30th, '12, 11:51

Blu wrote:
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Blu wrote:I don't think you guys are getting what I'm asking..

I mean, why is it that he sounds different on records like "What's The Difference" than he does on newer songs. Even on The Eminem Show he still had that Slim Shady vibe. Now it seems like it's lost.


In that case, he has changed his sound on his own. He could go back to rapping or sounding however you want, I'm sure. The only thing I don't think he could pull off is SSLP. But he could do MMLP and TES I think if he wanted to.

But I doubt it would sound the same. Could you imagine if he did a revamped version of The Marshall Mathers LP? Yeah the lyrics would be there, but Slim would be gone.

I just don't think he could pull off the same attitude.


I don't think it'd be exactly the same, no, but I think it'd be pretty close. He sounds close to his 2000 self on some songs. Like "Am I here to amuse you?!" on A Kiss, I feel that was delivered perfectly and sounds like old Em. I think it'd be impossible for him to sound exactly as he used to because he's older now. TES Em is a lot more easier for him to imitate because that was him using a normal delivery. The Warning and Ridaz both pull off the TES voice fairly well. So you want him to sound like on the MMLP? That would be a little more difficult but ultimately I feel he could do it if he's in the zone.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby Fleka » Jan 30th, '12, 11:56

He is no longer 20-some year old hungry dude. You can think whatever you want and say that you need some other reason, but that is the truth.
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Re: How the hell did Eminem change so much?!

Postby VanillaSkittlez » Jan 30th, '12, 16:09

I mean, Eminem was young and restless and rebellious. He was only 26 when the SSLP came out and 27 with the Marshall Mathers LP. But it isn't just recently. Compare The Eminem Show to The Marshall Mathers LP. There was definitely a change of attitude there. While still rebellious and everything, you didn't see nearly as much raping/killing women, comic violence, etc., but more focused on his personal life and politics. When TES came out, he was 29, slowly coming of age. Encore had practically no misogynistic or extremely violent lyrics at all; merely comical (partially because of drugs) and more mature lyrics. He had just turned 32 when the album came out. Now he released Relapse at 36 and Recovery at 37.

Obviously, he should sound much more mature and different 11 years later from his first major debut album (and I didn't even include Infinite on here). It's just age. 26, he was broke and struggling for money and just got signed, divorced with his wife, etc. Marshall Mathers, he was struggling dealing with his new life in fame. After that, as far as anger, he settled down a bit. I'd sure hope that 40-year old Em is more mature than his 27-year old self.

Not to say Eminem isn't angry or loves talking about killing women etc. on his new material, but it's not quite the same drive or anger he had when he was younger. That's just my opinion.


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