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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby MikeNUFC » Feb 18th, '12, 01:33

Possibly the most stupid post on this site.

Trimss wrote:^ That will happen in every school of every country in every world.

IT IS NOT THE SAME AS BLACK People god damn it! Black people are human, they're normal, they're NOTHING against nature


Nor are gay people. Gay people are born gay.

Gays are just there, wanting more and more everytime. They're not fucking normal, that's why you haven't seen a gay man giving birth by his asshole.


Haven't a clue what this even means. if by 'more and more' you mean rights, then what's wrong with that? Why shouldn't gay people have equal rights? Gay people are so hugely important to humanity - they're a deterrent to overpopulation, for one.

It has nothing to do with skin color, we're talking about acts. I already said it's okay be gay but don't show it like you're a fucking faggot walking around being more feminine than a woman!


So now you're generalisng. This is just amazing stupidity. Gay people shouldn't have rights because some gay people annoy Trimms. Wow.

I can't believe it. So in genetics, we should realise that pedophilia is just different and accept it? We should accept that some people would like to have sex (even without doing it) with your little 3 years old sister? Or zoophilia, yes, it's a variation and mutation, let's accept that someone wants to fuck your fucking parrot.
C'mon.


Children and animals are innocent and, most of the time, powerless to stop people perfoming such acts. They're hurting innocent people/creatures. Gay people aren't.

Comparing two gay people having sex to a someone having sex with a 3 year old is so unfathomably stupid I can't even get my head around it.

Plus, if there can be people defending gay people I don't see why people can't be against it.


You're against something that people are born with. You can happily hold that view, smart people will just sit back and laugh at how ridiculous it is.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby EG. » Feb 18th, '12, 01:44

Dont bother trying to talk some sense into him, people.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Trimss » Feb 18th, '12, 01:47

MikeNUFC wrote:Possibly the most stupid post on this site.

Nor are gay people. Gay people are born gay.


No. They are not born gay, just like criminals aren't born criminals. It's not true.
It's the most stupid post on this site? All you did is contradicting me by saying gay people are born gay.
You can't prove they are born gay, just like I can't prove they aren't. But I think no one is born gay, or criminal, or anything.


MikeNUFC wrote:Haven't a clue what this even means. if by 'more and more' you mean rights, then what's wrong with that? Why shouldn't gay people have equal rights? Gay people are so hugely important to humanity - they're a deterrent to overpopulation, for one.


This is seriously the only thing you came up with? They're a deterrent to overpopulation? Africans are dying everyday, that's a deterrent to overpopulation. Wars killing people is a deterrent too, that doesn't mean it's good.
Homosexuals still manage to do kids, like with sperm donations and surrogate mothers. They want to live normal lives, right, then they'll want to have kids and they already know how to. Give them their right and that "overpopulation" excuse will disappear faster than you think.

MikeNUFC wrote:So now you're generalisng. This is just amazing stupidity. Gay people shouldn't have rights because some gay people annoy Trimss. Wow.!


I'm not generalising. I just said that it's okay to be gay as long as you don't walk around trying to be more feminine than a woman. How would you react if an extra feminine guy tried to kiss you? You would hug him and tell him that homosexuality is great and accepted in our society? Or just tell him to fuck off? And Where did I say all the homosexuals act like that? Right, I didn't. Stop assuming and trying to find things I didn't say in my post.

Seriously, a lot of homosexuals act like that, just like a lot hide it. It just pisses me off when some people try to act like woman, they like people from the same sex so why do they need to gimick girly acts? For those who do it, at least.

MikeNUFC wrote:Children and animals are innocent and, most of the time, powerless to stop people perfoming such acts. They're hurting innocent people/creatures. Gay people aren't.

Comparing two gay people having sex to a someone having sex with a 3 year old is so unfathomably stupid I can't even get my head around it.



Yet again, you didn't read my post or didn't fully understand it.

I said "even without doing it" so I'm not even talking about the rape thing, I'm talking about these guys who stay all their life thinking about naked babies or naked little guys. Should we consider them normal too? It's just not their fault, after all. I'm sorry but these guys are not normal.

Again, not talking about a relationship.

MikeNUFC wrote:You're against something that people are born with. You can happily hold that view, smart people will just sit back and laugh at how ridiculous it is.


Why would you think that? What would make you think that accepting gays is common sense?
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Mr. Porter » Feb 18th, '12, 01:49

Homophobia in rap makes rap looks immature and stupid. I agree with this asap guy.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby MikeNUFC » Feb 18th, '12, 02:07

Trimss wrote:
MikeNUFC wrote:Possibly the most stupid post on this site.

Nor are gay people. Gay people are born gay.


No. They are not born gay, just like criminals aren't born criminals. It's not true.
It's the most stupid post on this site? All you did is contradicting me by saying gay people are born gay.
You can't prove they are born gay, just like I can't prove they aren't. But I think no one is born gay, or criminal, or anything.


Look up XQ28. Do it. Please. It'll crush your whole argument.


This is seriously the only thing you came up with? They're a deterrent to overpopulation? Africans are dying everyday, that's a deterrent to overpopulation. Homosexuals still manage to do kids, like with sperm donations and surrogate mothers. They want to live normal lives, right, then they'll want to have kids and they already know how to. Give him their right and that "overpopulation" excuse will disappear faster than you think.


Wow. Where to start. Africans dying is because of poverty and the the terrible wealth distribution through out the world. Not to mention this is only a 'deterrent' (hate using that for this) in areas of one continent. Although it'll take a ridiculous amount of time, mass poverty can be prevented. You can't stop people being born gay (I refer you back to XQ28).

And yes gay people can have kids. But many choose not to. Surrogate mothers aren't just as easy as that. Obviously far less gay people have kids than straight people. Hence the deterrant argument.

I'm not generalising. I just said that it's okay to be gay as long as you don't walk around trying to be more feminine than a woman. How would you react if an extra feminine guy tried to kiss you? You would hug him and tell him that homosexuality is great and accepted in our society? Or just tell him to fuck off? And Where did I say all the homosexuals act like that? Right, I didn't. Stop assuming and trying to find things I didn't say in my post.


I wouldn't like it if anyone randomly decided to hug me. I wouldn't like it if a straight man or a gay man did it. How is this relevant in any way?

I said you meant 'some' you absolutey moron. Read.

Seriously, a lot of homosexuals act like that, just like a lot hide it.


Who's making assumptions now? Plenty of gay people act completely normal. I know a few, in fact. And they're not trying to hide their 'camp-ness'

It just pisses me off when some people try to act like woman, they like people from the same sex so why do they need to gimick girly acts? For those who do it, at least.


A lot of traits in people, gay or straight, piss me off. But I don't take an aspect of that person and judge them for that trait. That's ridiculous.

Yes, some gay people act over the top and camp. Some straight people act really tough and macho. I hate that, but I don't judge all straight people on it. Do you see where I'm coming from?


Yet again, you didn't read my post or didn't fully understand it.

I said "even without doing it" so I'm not even talking about the rape thing, I'm talking about these guys who stay all their life thinking about naked babies or naked little guys. Should we consider them normal too? It's just not their fault, after all. I'm sorry but these guys are not normal.

Again, not talking about a relationship.


Paedophiles are usually of an odd mental state. The same as serial killers and the like. The brain is wired wrong and this is usually the cause of these issues. They're not 'normal' because of this. I'm not the type to judge people on this, because it makes me seem superior, and I'm only that because of chance and nothing else. (this is a different debate though)

Gay people just have a gene which means they're attracted to men. This is so far different it's unreal. 1 in 10 people are gay. This is so high, that to not see them as normal is completely ridiculous, when they function in society like anyone else.

Why would you think that? What would make you think that accepting gays is common sense?


The fact that being gay is natural and that there is no choice, perhaps?
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Trimss » Feb 18th, '12, 02:26

^ That process of quoting each part of your post just annoys me so I'll do it in this way even if it doesn't look really better.
Edit: Had to do it.

About XQ28, please, read this. Study made by George Rice.

http://www.bio.davidson.edu/COURSES/GEN ... aygene.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1021 ... t=Abstract

Abstract
Several lines of evidence have implicated genetic factors in homosexuality. The most compelling observation has been the report of genetic linkage of male homosexuality to microsatellite markers on the X chromosome. This observation warranted further study and confirmation. Sharing of alleles at position Xq28 was studied in 52 gay male sibling pairs from Canadian families. Four markers at Xq28 were analyzed (DXS1113, BGN, Factor 8, and DXS1108). Allele and haplotype sharing for these markers was not increased over expectation. These results do not support an X-linked gene underlying male homosexuality.



Finally, in 1999, George Rice and George Ebers published their data. In the April edition of Science, the scientists show that their results, “do not support an X-linked gene underlying male homosexuality” (Rice et al., 1999 and Wickelgren, 1999). They found that the gay brothers looked at by the Hamer group were no more likely to share the Xq28 markers than would be expected by chance. This officially sounded the death-knell for the optimism held by Hamer et al. and others looking in this region for the gene leading to homosexuality.


MikeNUFC wrote:Wow. Where to start. Africans dying is because of poverty and the the terrible wealth distribution through out the world. Not to mention this is only a 'deterrent' (hate using that for this) in areas of one continent. Although it'll take a ridiculous amount of time, mass poverty can be prevented. You can't stop people being born gay (I refer you back to XQ28).

And yes gay people can have kids. But many choose not to. Surrogate mothers aren't just as easy as that. Obviously far less gay people have kids than straight people. Hence the deterrant argument.


Of course they're dying because of that. It's a deterrent when a big part of a population is dying because of it. Many chose not to because it's illegal, if you think once it'll be legal and socially accepted they won't do it you're just lying to yourself.

Is it the only good reason as why gay exists?

MikeNUFC wrote:I wouldn't like it if anyone randomly decided to hug me. I wouldn't like it if a straight man or a gay man did it. How is this relevant in any way?

I said you meant 'some' you absolutey moron. Read.


It is relevant because even without knowing you, I know how you would react. You would be disgusted, and wouldn't act friendly at all.

MikeNUFC wrote:Who's making assumptions now? Plenty of gay people act completely normal. I know a few, in fact. And they're not trying to hide their 'camp-ness'


One of my best friend was gay. So when he hang out with some of his gay friends, I saw that a lot of them had really weird and feminine geistures. Does that mean they all do it, no.

I meant hide it as acting normal, not acting all feminine so people actually notice you're gay on the first sight.

MikeNUFC wrote:A lot of traits in people, gay or straight, piss me off. But I don't take an aspect of that person and judge them for that trait. That's ridiculous.

Yes, some gay people act over the top and camp. Some straight people act really tough and macho. I hate that, but I don't judge all straight people on it. Do you see where I'm coming from?


Totally, I totally see it and you're right. I hate machos too. I might overreacted a bit.

MikeNUFC wrote:Paedophiles are usually of an odd mental state. The same as serial killers and the like. The brain is wired wrong and this is usually the cause of these issues. They're not 'normal' because of this. I'm not the type to judge people on this, because it makes me seem superior, and I'm only that because of chance and nothing else. (this is a different debate though)

Gay people just have a gene which means they're attracted to men. This is so far different it's unreal. 1 in 10 people are gay. This is so high, that to not see them as normal is completely ridiculous, when they function in society like anyone else.


There are like 2/3% of people in the whole world who are gay. Not 1/10.

^ Not getting into that debate then. No proof of gay gene yet though.

The more rigorous studies have shown different results within a range of 0.6 to 5.4 percent. These studies include Bell-Weinberg, 1970 (~2 percent); Billy-Battelle, 1993 (1.1 percent); Cameron-Ross, 1975-78 (~3 percent); Catania-NABS, 1992 (2 percent); FRI, 1983 (5.4 percent); MacDonald, 1988 (2 percent); NCHS, 1988-91 (3.5 percent); Schmidt, 1987 (0.6 percent); and Trocki, 1988-89 (3 percent).


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percent_ ... z1mgyvmghB


MikeNUFC wrote:The fact that being gay is natural and that there is no choice, perhaps?


No. It's because not accepting gay people is bad nowadays, and because we have to conform to gay activists opinions if we don't want to get bashed.

I'm off to sleep right now, I'll answer tomorrow.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby SliK » Feb 18th, '12, 03:12

Trimss wrote:There are like 2/3% of people in the whole world who are gay. Not 1/10.

3% of 7,000,000,000 is still 210,000,000. Two hundred and ten MILLION people on the planet are gay, by your admission, and that still isn't enough to make it normal?

You're ignorant, and it's probably not your fault, but acceptance really is the best path in life. I don't think it should be illegal for homosexuals to marry, I think it's up to the church or institution to decide whether they want to marry someone or not. I don't appreciate the Government making laws deciding who I can and can't choose to spend my life with, under God. I am 100% straight and quite honestly find the whole idea of marriage (and God, AND the American Government) laughable, I will never get married... or if I do it will be strickly for the woman I marry, because it means so much to her or whatever, but I don't give a shit one way or another about marraige and probably will end up with someone who feels the same.

However, mixing church and state is never a good idea. Laws should NOT be made for religious reason. Religions can govern what can and can't be done within a certain religion, NOT the Government. We as citizens have too few rights as it is. It doesn't affect ANYONE in the SLIGHTEST if Bob and Paul get married, so why not just let them?

Adoption is a different isue all together and I think each adoptive family should be heavily scrutinized. Do I think some gay couples are unfit to adopt a child? Yes. Do I think some straight couples are unfit to adopt children? Yes. I would need to research this issue more, and hear testimonies from children who grew up with gay parents. I bet a lot of them received more love and care than the millions of children who have grown up in foster care, drifting between families, meaning no more to them than a welfare cheque each week.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Blu » Feb 18th, '12, 06:58

Being homosexual is not a choice, it's genetics. Which person in their right mind would want to be gay, knowing that they'd be made fun of by people like Trimss?
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Manly Moose » Feb 18th, '12, 07:12

I really dont think bigray and Trimms have any argument left, though they'll probably come back saying the same shit while not properly adressing anything that was said, pretending that it didnt happen.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Mr. Porter » Feb 18th, '12, 08:05

Grow up.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Chet Starr » Feb 18th, '12, 08:17

homophobia is extremely ignorant, good for Rocky making a stand
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby SG. » Feb 18th, '12, 12:34

This is such a retarded argument.

Watch the respectometer fly so low, Trimss.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Trimss » Feb 18th, '12, 13:01

Manly Moose wrote:I really dont think bigray and Trimms have any argument left, though they'll probably come back saying the same shit while not properly adressing anything that was said, pretending that it didnt happen.


What are you saying? I just showed that nobody is born gay.
Being gay is a choice, except if you're born in a gay environment and everybody is telling you it's good. Then, it's not your fault.

Anyway,it ain't genetics.

I'm on my phone right now, but if you want i'll make an essay adressing all the new comments. I don't give a fuck, it's my opinion and if you can accept gays, you should be able to accept people who can't accept it.

@Zabe, why? Because I don't want to be Mr.Kindness? Because I don't share tthe same views, and think gay people ain't normal?
I never said 'kill em all', i just showed that it's not genetics, neither it's normal.

I don't give a fuck if someone is too stupid to accept that everyone can't like homos.

Also, using retarded is an insult to the real retarded people. Do you give a fuck
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Trimss » Feb 18th, '12, 13:21

Blu wrote:Being homosexual is not a choice, it's genetics. Which person in their right mind would want to be gay, knowing that they'd be made fun of by people like Trimss?


http://www.bio.davidson.edu/COURSES/GEN ... aygene.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1021 ... t=Abstract

There is no gay gene. That's an invention. Please, read that.

Also, do you know what "making fun of someone" means? Because that's exactly what I didn't do. I didn't do gay jokes, nor mock them. So shut up unless you can say something better than that.

Manly Moose wrote:I really dont think bigray and Trimms have any argument left, though they'll probably come back saying the same shit while not properly adressing anything that was said, pretending that it didnt happen.


It did happen and I don't care if I'm the only one to think that. Being gay isn't normal, it isn't genetics.
You can't convince me, I can't convince you. Even though you could just read those links.

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They're a shame on this earth and they should face their fate. They changed the normality of human relationships, even animals didn't attempt to do that shit!


There are some animals who sodomise each other, like bonobos though.

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Okay.

Zabe wrote:This is such a retarded argument.

Watch the respectometer fly so low, Trimss.


No it's not. I don't give a fuck about a respectometer Zabe, I'm not gonna conform to some views because that would mean I'll lose respect.
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Re: A$AP Rocky Calls Homophobia In Hip Hop "Retarded"

Postby Epidemik » Feb 18th, '12, 15:25

Trimss wrote:I'm not homophobic, I just don't like to accept the fact that gays are .. gays. Let 'em live, okay but no marriage or adoption.

EDIT: I am actually homophobic.



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