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yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Elision » Mar 30th, '12, 09:55

Thought this would belong here.

Am I the only one who feels this? I mean specifically rhyme poetry. The way single-syllable rhymes are set up so far ahead, and they're so obvious and predictable. It allows me to slightly skip ahead of the story. This combined with just how cheesy it sounds compared to the hardcore multi-stacking shit most of us here tend to surround ourselves with, makes it close to unbearable to listen to. It's literally fuckin nails on a chalkboard to meImage
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Chet Starr » Mar 30th, '12, 10:02

I've never listened to poetry, just read it.

I can't say I hate/love poetry, because I haven't given it a proper chance yet. Yet, one thing will always remain clear, Allen Ginsberg was one of the greatest writers, & I could read his poems all day.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby I'mShady » Mar 30th, '12, 10:11

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much more to poetry than just rhymes, you wouldn't believe.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Fleka » Mar 30th, '12, 10:40

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much more to poetry than just rhymes, you wouldn't believe.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Kill You » Mar 30th, '12, 11:05

I feel that way about simple rap...like how I can pretty much guess the next rhyme a line before they even say it. Idk, poetry itself isn't bad. It might be just the type of poetry you're listening to.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Solace » Mar 30th, '12, 12:57

I don't listen to poetry for the rhymes though, I concentrate on every other form of rhetoric it involves.

A lot of poetry doesn't rhyme as well.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby SliK » Mar 30th, '12, 14:31

Rhyme in poetry is to create flow and rythm. It isn't about "dope rhymes" at all. It has already been said that there is so much more to it than that.

Single syllable rapping bores me for the most part, unless the song has other artistic merits (for example, I really enjoy KiD CuDi's Man On The Moon series).
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Elision » Mar 30th, '12, 19:06

Let me clear this up since there seems to be some confusion. When listening to it, I'm not listening to it the same way I would listen to hiphop. I'm just saying that listening to hiphop for so long, makes it impossible to avoid the rhymes being bolded out in your head. Well, mine anyway.

Notice that in my post I said "specifically rhyme poetry". I understand that it is in no way intently focused on the rhyme. But because of them making the decision to rhyme at all -- as someone who purely listens to music where rhyming is more complex and in-depth than any other word-based art form, it just makes me automatically cringe. It's like watching Kobe 1v1 a toddler.

Now, let me say that I do truly appreciate all forms of poetry. Because it is the backbone for this beautiful thing that we call hiphop music. It just seems like they (and by they i mean most) could try a little harder is all. Because here in hiphop we have people who do the exact same thing, only they put immense amount of time into every section of the piece. As opposed to just the message and letting the sound/rhyme of it lag behind in the creative process.

and @Miller, that's what I'm saying man. It seems like if you dropped the concept of the multi-syllabic rhyme on that world, things would definitely spice up.

edit: with 6,000,000,000+ people on this planet, i'm sure that there's a few sprinkled around that do poetry at that level. But from my experience, these individuals are extremely rare.

2nd edit after coming back from my kitchen: when I think a little more into that, it seems like most writers who get that ferocious with rhyme structure and sound will inevitably find themselves rapping. But I still like to believe that there remains a line between the two worlds. Even with them being as related as they are.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Elision » Mar 30th, '12, 20:56

Menzo wrote:finding out underlying meanings for certain things just piss me off cuz they seem like such a reach.
Definitely. I can see how a lot of people enjoy it though. It's like puzzle solving to an extent.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Blu » Mar 30th, '12, 23:35

I asked my English teacher two days ago why poets never used multisyllabic rhymes, and she said because they focused more on their message rather than their rhymes, even in rhythmic poetry. :coffee:
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby babyjane » Mar 31st, '12, 00:00

I used to like Russell Simmon's Def Poetry Jam.
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby WakeUpShow » Mar 31st, '12, 00:29

Shakespeare used wordplay and multis often.
Shall I compare thee to a SUMMER'S DAY?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling BUDS OF MAY,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm'd;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance or nature's changing course untrimm'd;
But thy eternal summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest;
Nor shall Death brag thou wander'st in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou growest:
So long as men can breathe or EYES CAN SEE,
So long lives this and this gives LIFE TO THEE.



I guess thats why they call Eminem the Modern-Day Shakespeare?
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Elision » Mar 31st, '12, 01:11

Cosh wrote:Shakespeare used wordplay and multis often.
Shall I compare thee to a SUMMER'S DAY?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling BUDS OF MAY,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm'd;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance or nature's changing course untrimm'd;
But thy eternal summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest;
Nor shall Death brag thou wander'st in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou growest:
So long as men can breathe or EYES CAN SEE,
So long lives this and this gives LIFE TO THEE.


That's super interesting actually :y:
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby Man1x » Mar 31st, '12, 01:14

Poetry is alright, it can get boring but damn! Shakespeare da GOAT!!
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Re: yo i can't stand most poetry

Postby I'mShady » Mar 31st, '12, 03:01

Yeah Shakespeare and Dr. Seuss are the pioneering rappers, I'm not even joking.
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