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Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 5th, '12, 15:54

Or a good work ethic in other words. When you take basketball for comparison, you have people like Kobe who always strive to achieve something more, and to prove themselves worthy. And these guys have a lot of freaking money, but yet they take their job very seriously and practice every day, even after 20 years of playing, and they always try to add more moves and things like that.

In Hip-Hop, I feel that rappers get too comfortable too fucking quickly. I don't think that most rappers take their job seriously enough, which is proven by the enormous number of sub-par products, and quick decline in quality. There was this story about Jordan promising to score 50 on some team, and when he came up short by like 4 points, he was pissed off the whole night. That's something that needs to be admired. I think that rappers should strive to have zero filler lines and songs, and even though that's impossible to achieve, they should at least try.

Look at Lupe's verse on the freshly released Skate On. The fuck was that? I mean, the lyrics are good, but the flow sounds like it was freestyled, and Lupe obviously didn't try hard. And when you know that you're putting yourself on a well-known artist's album, who will get heard by millions of people, you might as well come through. Compare it to Kendrick Lamar's verse on The City, and you'll see what I'm talking about. Or let's take a look at Nas. He's obviously putting much more into his recent work, and his verse on Triple Beam Dreams is better than most of his stuff from the past 10 years.

In rappers' defense, I understand that repetitiveness is a big issue. In basketball, you can use the same moves as many times as you please, but you can't do the same with lines or songs. And that's a real valid point, but still, I think that they can do much better, and actually live up to their potential. It's such a shame for the fans, and for Hip-Hop itself, to not get more out of the tremendous talent that's out there.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby EG. » Apr 5th, '12, 16:04

I agree, Lupe sounds like he couldn't give a fuck less. No motivation at all.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby momentsgolden » Apr 5th, '12, 16:14

Tech N9ne, mixtape Weezy and 1999 Eminem all had that work rate and dedication. But i agree... they are the exception rather than the rule.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 5th, '12, 16:27

name wrote:I bet Lupe has some motivation when he skateboards



But yeah, I think Atlantic killed his motivation. :(


Lol, exactly. It's very disappointing for the fans, and I think that our support out-weights the bullshit he gets from Atlantic Records, so he should act less emoish.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 5th, '12, 16:35

momentsgolden wrote:Tech N9ne, mixtape Weezy and 1999 Eminem all had that work rate and dedication. But i agree... they are the exception rather than the rule.


Exactly. And I don't get why it's so fucking hard. I think that 12 songs is the optimal number for an album. If you're to release one album per year, that's a whole month for you to come up with a song i.e. one song per month. Now have in mind that this is their actual job. They don't go to college, or spend time in an office. Are you telling me that you can't make one good song in a month?? Fuck that, it takes like 40 minutes to write a verse, and you have all the time to come up with a cool concept, and fix each word. Sure there's touring and promotion, but you still have the time.

And I always connect this with doctors. I mean, does a brain surgeon, who actually has people's lives in his hands, goes to his work place and says: "Man, I'm not in the mood for this surgery, so fuck it, let's make it a quick one". Of course not, and you can't tell me that writing a verse is that big of a challenge, and that a writer's block is messing with you.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby EG. » Apr 5th, '12, 16:37

name wrote:I bet Lupe has some motivation when he skateboards

Lol yeah he does. Did you see that live stream? He wouldn't sleep till he got his heelflip back. Took him an hour.

In his defense, the song's probably old and recorded when he was depressed...
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby _Steven_ » Apr 5th, '12, 19:27

name wrote:I bet Lupe has some motivation when he skateboards


yeah right that nigga can't even ollie
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 5th, '12, 20:05

Menzo wrote:You're absolutely right.

Instead of striving to make their own impact, which would in turn undoubtedly motivate them to kill everything they put out, they are just going with what the fuck will make them money.

Eric Sermon was saying this a week or two ago.


Definitely, and do you have a link for that interview?
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Apr 5th, '12, 21:35

Slim Fiasco wrote:
momentsgolden wrote:Tech N9ne, mixtape Weezy and 1999 Eminem all had that work rate and dedication. But i agree... they are the exception rather than the rule.


Exactly. And I don't get why it's so fucking hard. I think that 12 songs is the optimal number for an album. If you're to release one album per year, that's a whole month for you to come up with a song i.e. one song per month. Now have in mind that this is their actual job. They don't go to college, or spend time in an office. Are you telling me that you can't make one good song in a month?? Fuck that, it takes like 40 minutes to write a verse, and you have all the time to come up with a cool concept, and fix each word. Sure there's touring and promotion, but you still have the time.

And I always connect this with doctors. I mean, does a brain surgeon, who actually has people's lives in his hands, goes to his work place and says: "Man, I'm not in the mood for this surgery, so fuck it, let's make it a quick one". Of course not, and you can't tell me that writing a verse is that big of a challenge, and that a writer's block is messing with you.

Writer's Block is a giant ass cunt bitch, trust. Not saying that you're not wrong, but for some it is.

also, does anybody got a video of 2pac's work ethic saying how we ain't got time to waste n shit?
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby JamaicanPattlez » Apr 5th, '12, 22:20

Maybe I'm wired differently, but I don't even really have Writer's Block anymore, only time I do is when I try to think of a concept for someone else. My way of getting out of it is to write a verse on the stupidest thing ever, like Shrek and Donkey getting high on shrooms, smoking pencil lead, then going on a magical journey to get Kim Kardashian's legendary pink thongs. Gets my creativity going, then I can usually write something amazing. :y:
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 6th, '12, 08:26

Menzo wrote:
Slim Fiasco wrote:
Menzo wrote:You're absolutely right.

Instead of striving to make their own impact, which would in turn undoubtedly motivate them to kill everything they put out, they are just going with what the fuck will make them money.

Eric Sermon was saying this a week or two ago.


Definitely, and do you have a link for that interview?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUkESAi6_E


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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 6th, '12, 08:29

flyingmonkey10 wrote:
Writer's Block is a giant ass cunt bitch, trust. Not saying that you're not wrong, but for some it is.



It depends on how you long you have been rapping/writing. I definitely had tons of problems with it during the first 3 years, but then it started to become very easy. I wrote like 80 verses back in February/March so trust me, it's not a problem after a while.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Ka0t1c » Apr 6th, '12, 08:45

hey, i'm fucking trying, all right? that is why my music hasn't been officially released yet, i'm working on perfecting my craft, or at least until i'm satisfied, and i'm not gonna make a half assed song for my fans.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby dR3 » Apr 6th, '12, 18:58

Totally agreed. It seems like most of the current rappers are in it for the money instead of love for the actual genre.

What happened to crafting the perfect track or album without caring if it's going to go platinum? Kudos to those who are still trying and giving 110% on each track/album they do, they deserve every rap fan's respect.
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Re: Rappers Lack A Killer Instinct

Postby Ka0t1c » Apr 6th, '12, 19:15

Menzo wrote:
Ka0t1c wrote:hey, i'm fucking trying, all right? that is why my music hasn't been officially released yet, i'm working on perfecting my craft, or at least until i'm satisfied, and i'm not gonna make a half assed song for my fans.


Hurry the fuck up :shifty:



i am tryna get collabs and studio time
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