Regarding some of Eminem's Music being too soft

[Aftermathers]

Ok lets just have a mature debate to insults no immature slurs just adults debating.


I grew up in a poor enviroment and with that kinda enviroment comes violance be it drug dealers, gang members, robbers etc the root for this lifestyle being poverty now every drug dealer, ever person i ever known to be in a gang as much as they live violent lifestyles not once have known a person living that live that never showed compassion, love, feelings for their daughter, son, mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncles, wife, girlfriend etc and these people were never ashamed to show that genuine love for people they love and care about. And with out getting too deep we talking about serious criminals here but they never once felt any shame in telling their kids or family they love them.

So why is that some people on here not naming names but some feel Songs like MOckingbird as an example is soft? when people in the real world who do violent things have no issues expressing love for their loved 1s yet some internet posters who probably don't live that lifestyle deem these Songs as soft or pussy? people living violent lifestyles don't even want to be in that position in the first place


Are some people not human on here and have no compassion, feelings, love, soul inside them? when you disrespect Songs like Mockingbird, Not Afraid you disrespecting Eminem as a person cos those are Songs reflecting what he been through?

Ok so you strictly based on taste don't enjoy this kinda Music that's fine but do you not see the bigger picture? and how these Songs help some people who been through tough times & struggles

Also why is Eminem the only Artist that even if it is a small section very small % of people that claim to be fans disrespect his positive, uplifting, thought provoking Music yet 2pac fans who prefer his Thug/hardcore/violent Music never ever dare to disrespect records like CHanges and Brendas Got A Baby?


Eminem gives you guys what you guys who don't like what the majority like he gives you the Bad Meets Evil, The Relapse etc projects to this very day so what are you guys complaining about? why are you so mad he gives us fans that like Music that is emotional, positive, uplifting with actual Lyrics about life even though you guys still get your entertainment Music from him?



So it can't be you feel he neglecting you Slim Shady persona type fans cos lets do the math Relapse came out in 2009 BME came out in 2011 so really be honest is it that you wish the type of Music you like was getting the same critical acclaim, love, respect that what the majority of his fans, critics etc give the most love to added with the fact 40 years from now people will remember him for his emotional Songs with Substance over comedy entertainment Songs?


Just be honest

[Chet Starr]

Because people have opinions, and they are not always the same. You might think the songs are touching, others may few them as fucking stupid pussy shit.

It would be absolutely boring if we all thought the same

[Aftermathers]

Because people have opinions, and they are not always the same. You might think the songs are touching, others may few them as fucking stupid pussy shit.

It would be absolutely boring if we all thought the same

Now don't get me wrong arguing over lets say just for examples sake which Song is better Sing For The Moment or 8 Mile Road. Fair enough hell even arguing over which Song is better like My Name Is or The Real Slim Shady.


But to call someone soft cos they love their daughter and express it in a Poetic way straight from the soul, calling them a pussy for it! are you telling me that's a normal human?

And ok they have their taste but when people ask them why they dislike the Music the clishe i have no real answer type response 'cos it's soft only soft people like that blah blah'


So the question is how insecure would an invidual have to be to think positive Music the type that all the pioneers and legends of Rap have also done is soft? yopu gotta have issues to think that cos not only are you disrespecting Eminem and what he stands for loving his daughter but also Artists like KRs 1, Public Enemy, Nas etc that made positive Music expressing their feelings.

[Chet Starr]

& people may say "how sad and pathetic can a person be to like such horrible soft music from a horrible rapper"

It's opinions, just because you think that, doesn't mean everyone else thinks that. The only insecure person is the one who can't except that others don't share the same views.

[Aftermathers]

Hip Hop was built on the foundations of expressing your feelings and having a message that relates to people in your enviroment being the voice of people in the struggle be it poverty or any other issue


Of course there is entertainment too party, dancing, entertainment records can be made but the culture/genre havevy fundemental aspect was Substance and expressing emotions from day 1 by the pioneers so when someone says what you described they are beyond just disrespecting Eminem they disrespecting the genre, the culture, the pioneers, the legends.

[Chet Starr]

Hip hop was founded upon party records (sugarhill gang) not upon heavy emotions. Check facts before you state them

They are not disrespecting hip hop when they say that, they are doing what rap is all about. Stating their opinion

[Aftermathers]

You missing the point it was also heavily built on KRS 1, Public Enemy, 2pac etc having a voice for people experiecing many issues and speaking on these social and personal issues.


How is saying Music that is deemed soft for reasons like expressing your emotions makes you pussy not disrespecting pioneers who worked hard to make the genre what it by pioneering that element?



Explain how a positive record that tops the Chart, expresses poetry, true feelings and most of all helps people in the millions facing hardships a Song like Not Afraid is to be disrespected cos some internet posters that think listening to Music about rape and serial killing makes you tough? a Song with a positive, uplifting message that helps people gets hated on by insecure people which topped the Chart over a typical dance, money, cars, hoes type record




Shameful.

[Chet Starr]

And tell me whats wrong with a song about serial killing, if it happens to brighten someone's day, and makes them smile or laugh?

Nothing at all, but your talking down about it

Shameful

[Aftermathers]

Just like i thought can't make valid, adult, reasonable post debating the thread question so a predictable post from a Jay Z groupie SMH Beyonce would be jealous of another male having a crush on her camel.

[Chet Starr]

Don't be hateful, you two need to just ignore each other from now on. Next attack from either of you two will result in a warning

So play nice or not at all

[Aftermathers]

Don't be hateful, you two need to just ignore each other from now on. Next attack from either of you two will result in a warning

So play nice or not at all

Yeah i will can you tell him not to post in my threads though see how he contributed with no intelligence so tell him to stop coming in future to my threads.

[Aftermathers]

And tell me whats wrong with a song about serial killing, if it happens to brighten someone's day, and makes them smile or laugh?

Nothing at all, but your talking down about it

Shameful

Since when is serial killing regarded as normal, compasionate human like behaviour? did your parents which i'm certain did not raise you to be a serial killa or promote it now did they.


So being human, loving your daughter is looked down on by some yet serial killing an act of mentally ill evil is funny?


Wow, can you show me a KRS 1, Public Enemy, Rakim, Grandmaster Flash, 2pac Song about serial killing?

[Chet Starr]

And tell me whats wrong with a song about serial killing, if it happens to brighten someone's day, and makes them smile or laugh?

Nothing at all, but your talking down about it

Shameful

Since when is serial killing regarded as normal, compasionate human like behaviour? did your parents which i'm certain did not raise you to be a serial killa or promote it now did they.


So being human, loving your daughter is looked down on by some yet serial killing an act of mentally ill evil is funny?


Wow, can you show me a KRS 1, Public Enemy, Rakim, Grandmaster Flash, 2pac Song about serial killing?

It's called not taking a song serious. He is joking when he mentioned that stuff. It's call taking a joke

Tupac has tons of songs talking about drugs and shooting people

[Aftermathers]

And tell me whats wrong with a song about serial killing, if it happens to brighten someone's day, and makes them smile or laugh?

Nothing at all, but your talking down about it

Shameful

Since when is serial killing regarded as normal, compasionate human like behaviour? did your parents which i'm certain did not raise you to be a serial killa or promote it now did they.


So being human, loving your daughter is looked down on by some yet serial killing an act of mentally ill evil is funny?


Wow, can you show me a KRS 1, Public Enemy, Rakim, Grandmaster Flash, 2pac Song about serial killing?

It's called not taking a song serious. He is joking when he mentioned that stuff. It's call taking a joke

Tupac has tons of songs talking about drugs and shooting people

2pac does but what 2pac is doing when talking about is what goes on in the Inner City/lower class hoods when as you put it talking about drugs and guns cos the fact is gun crime and drugs are a daily lifestyle for people in that same enviroment hip hop was formed.


Serial killing is not an Inner City problem is it what most moral, decent, human people consider evil and lunatic. Hence why you can't name me a 2pac, KRS 1, Nas, Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Pun etc Song about Serial Killing or rape.

[Chet Starr]

But tupac raped a female, so he is a awful and horrible person. He didnt have songs about it, he actually did it

Eminem had serial killing songs, but never raped or killed anyone