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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Cube23 » Apr 22nd, '12, 23:08

Lello wrote:SSLP, MMLP, TES > all albums in the discographies of those artists, so that means Eminem Discography > those artist's discography

not to mention Recovery and Relapse are massive albums as well

Eminem is the best rapper in history, I just don't see how someone can argue otherwise :/ o well, too each their own


The Slim Shady LP is not better than Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt. You may like it more. But to state it's better is just simply incorrect.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Kill You » Apr 22nd, '12, 23:12

Yes.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Man1x » Apr 22nd, '12, 23:13

Cube23 wrote:
Lello wrote:SSLP, MMLP, TES > all albums in the discographies of those artists, so that means Eminem Discography > those artist's discography

not to mention Recovery and Relapse are massive albums as well

Eminem is the best rapper in history, I just don't see how someone can argue otherwise :/ o well, too each their own


The Slim Shady LP is not better than Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt. You may like it more. But to state it's better is just simply incorrect.

That's your opinion, how can measure music in terms of quality unless it was Soulja Biy vs Nas, where the division is very apparent. I believe TSSLP is better honestly. Also, I'd like to see you discuss Kanye cause I love him (whether you believe that or not).
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Cube23 » Apr 22nd, '12, 23:18

Man1x wrote:
Cube23 wrote:
Lello wrote:SSLP, MMLP, TES > all albums in the discographies of those artists, so that means Eminem Discography > those artist's discography

not to mention Recovery and Relapse are massive albums as well

Eminem is the best rapper in history, I just don't see how someone can argue otherwise :/ o well, too each their own


The Slim Shady LP is not better than Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt. You may like it more. But to state it's better is just simply incorrect.

That's your opinion, how can measure music in terms of quality unless it was Soulja Biy vs Nas, where the division is very apparent. I believe TSSLP is better honestly. Also, I'd like to see you discuss Kanye cause I love him (whether you believe that or not).


I'm to Kanye what most of those people are to Eminem.. A hardcore follower. College Dropout and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are both in my top 20 albums. Late Registration is close in that area. I wasn't huge on Graduation or 808's. They were average. If he has another great album or two, I consider him to be up there, as well.. He ranges from a piss poor rapper to a good one with more entertainment value than just about anyone else (I like Rick Ross and Lil B's mic presences, but they do suck, of course).

He's always made great music and tries something new.. It's fantastic he doesn't stay in a comfort zone because it shows versatile he is. When your most creative album is your fifth one, that says a lot.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Cube23 » Apr 22nd, '12, 23:24

Did you really need to post his entire discography? I've heard every Eminem song released and so have most of these people. We aren't going to go "Wow.. I was wrong. My opinion of Eminem has changed. This guy IS good!".

I respect your opinion.. Just saying. That's kind of silly.

On the flip side, I hate The Slim Shady LP and enjoy Relapse more. I don't find it to be much better than Relapse either.

So I'd say we both have fairly unpopular beliefs amongst the normal hip-hop opinion.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Man1x » Apr 22nd, '12, 23:36

Cube23 wrote:I'm to Kanye what most of those people are to Eminem.. A hardcore follower. College Dropout and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are both in my top 20 albums. Late Registration is close in that area. I wasn't huge on Graduation or 808's. They were average. If he has another great album or two, I consider him to be up there, as well.. He ranges from a piss poor rapper to a good one with more entertainment value than just about anyone else (I like Rick Ross and Lil B's mic presences, but they do suck, of course).

He's always made great music and tries something new.. It's fantastic he doesn't stay in a comfort zone because it shows versatile he is. When your most creative album is your fifth one, that says a lot.


That Runaway music video really ties it all together amazingly. I agree with most of what you said in that quote.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby N.W.A. » Apr 23rd, '12, 00:23

Top 5 ever? No. 2000-present, Yes. Probably top 3. I will say its one of the best produced albums I've ever heard, the prduction is perfect.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby I'mShady » Apr 23rd, '12, 08:23

Man1x wrote:@LELLO B4 KANYE STAYNE SAYS YOUR STUPID & IGNORANT THEN SUGGESTS A LOT OF JAY Z AND YE ALBUMS.

Edit: My answer is yes.

Oh ok... i'm sick of this b4 shit.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 23rd, '12, 08:31

Cube23 wrote:The Slim Shady LP is not better than Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt. You may like it more. But to state it's better is just simply incorrect.


Reasonable Doubt was just another mafioso rap type of record though; next to Only Made 4 Cuban Linx and It Was Written, it didn't offer anything new. TSSLP on the other side, was a completely new product in rap music. It was original and it had something that other albums lack(ed). The wittiness is exclusive for that album, and in the same connotation - so is the humor. Also, the rhyming and flow are better than what was presented on Reasonable Doubt. The rhyming is very impressive and it's not forced at all, on albums like Capital Punishment, you can tell that the rhyming is overshadowing the other aspects. Jay-Z came up with a unique flow as well, but he couldn't really blow you away with some impressive streaks of rhyming. Granted, Jay had more complex and metaphorical touch to RB, and in that aspect it is better than TSSLP, but that one aspect isn't enough. Renegade is a very good example of how Eminem's strong sides overpower Jay's.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Fleka » Apr 23rd, '12, 09:00

I can`t decide which album is better, MMLP and TES. And I think that Em is the best rapper ever. But I will not go as far as saying that Em has 2-3 albums in top 5 list ever. If you ask me, he does, but there are so many other epic albums, so making Em hold half of the list is wrong.

But, top 5 albums or rappers list must have Em in it, like it or not.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby KillahBee » Apr 23rd, '12, 12:42

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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby ShAdYTiLIDie » Apr 23rd, '12, 13:50

I think TES could be one of the best hip hop albums, but I'm not sure how many others would think that lol!
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Aftermathers » Apr 23rd, '12, 14:04

ShAdYTiLIDie wrote:I think TES could be one of the best hip hop albums, but I'm not sure how many others would think that lol!



Definitley agree it is the best Album i ever heard
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Emadyville » Apr 23rd, '12, 16:48

Fleka wrote:I can`t decide which album is better, MMLP and TES.


they are very different albums for a lot of reasons, both amazing, but I think if you consider them basically a tie on how much you like them it'd prolly come down to mood on any given day as to which is better.
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Re: Do you think The Eminem Show is

Postby Emadyville » Apr 23rd, '12, 16:53

Lello wrote:
Emadyville wrote:
Fleka wrote:I can`t decide which album is better, MMLP and TES.


they are very different albums for a lot of reasons, both amazing, but I think if you consider them basically a tie on how much you like them it'd prolly come down to mood on any given day as to which is better.


add SSLP to that and I agree


yeah he only said the 2 tho, maybe just forgot about the sslp :sweating:
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