Noticed a few people say 'That Subject Matter is corny'

[Aftermathers]

When Em is making Songs about his daughter (Hailies Song, When I'm Gone, Mockingbird)


Why do those who feel this way think it's a corny Subject Matter/Concept?

[Cupid Stunt]

Please, your so annoying. Please stop making threads, I'm trying to ignore you and be cool, but YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF.

[Aftermathers]

Please, your so annoying. Please stop making threads, I'm trying to ignore you and be cool, but YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF.

Then don't come in my threads wasteman

[CrashBand]

Please, your so annoying. Please stop making threads, I'm trying to ignore you and be cool, but YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF.

Don't feed the troll

[Kill You]

Not necessarily corny, we just don't wanna hear that shit on his next album. No one wants to hear him talk about Hailie because he's talked about her enough.

[Aftermathers]

Please, your so annoying. Please stop making threads, I'm trying to ignore you and be cool, but YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF.

Don't feed the troll

You just an insecure sad loser feel everyone that doesnt share your taste in music about weird topics is a troll


You dislike people that like positive uplifting Music but have the nerve to do that while liking Music about serial killing and rape

[Blu]

At the time, songs like "Hailie's Song" seemed very corny to Eminem fans because two years prior to The Eminem Show, he had released The Marshall Mathers LP, and we all know how gruesome that album is. It was hard for fans to accept that the same man that made a song like "Kim" went out and recorded a song like "Hailie's Song".

People that I'm friends with don't find "When I'm Gone" or "Mockingbird" corny, they find them pretty emotional and appropriate. I'm pretty sure back in the day people were used to Eminem's 'corny' subject matter since he had released The Eminem Show which was pretty.. well.. family appropriate.

Nowadays, people find songs like "Not Afraid" and "Love The Way You Lie" corny because of the album he released in the last year: Relapse.

[Aftermathers]

Not necessarily corny, we just don't wanna hear that shit on his next album. No one wants to hear him talk about Hailie because he's talked about her enough.

Not neccesarily saying he should on his next Album but even when those Songs first came out a few odd people just labelled the Subject Matter corny.


I never understood this cos Nas recentley did a record about his daughter but i haven't seen a Nas fan so far that that corny, or same with 2pac's Dear Mama i know that was about his mother oppossed to daughter but in a general sense very similar concept and style of Song but to this day never seen a 2pac fan label that song corny.



It's understandable if people don't like Musical elements of these Songs like Hailies Song such as the Beat or Singing or Delivery that's fair enough if they didn't like those aspects but what makes a positive record about love and affection for 1s daughter 'corny'? that's the main issue

[Erowid]

Not necessarily corny, we just don't wanna hear that shit on his next album. No one wants to hear him talk about Hailie because he's talked about her enough.

You know, I disagree, actually (to an extent). I think if it's the same "daddy loves you" bs, and doesn't actually say anything, then I agree we've had enough of that, but she could still be a good source of material, if he's willing to be open and poignant in his portrayal of her. The problem is he might not be willing to do that, for the sake of privacy. But what it's like having her grow up... what her personality's like, what their family dynamic is like and how he feels about it... it's corny yes, but also, I think, intriguing. She's still a major player in his life, and as long as he has new and insightful things say about her, I don't see why she should necessarily be a dead topic. I for one, am curious about how she'll turn out, just because her situation is quite uncommon--even amongst celebrity kids.

BUT, I would get it if he just keeps her off limits from now on, not wanting to put her on blast. But at the same time, Em needs to rap about things he actually means. Which is why it could possibly be a good thing. Just my opinion.

[Kill You]

Not necessarily corny, we just don't wanna hear that shit on his next album. No one wants to hear him talk about Hailie because he's talked about her enough.

Not neccesarily saying he should on his next Album but even when those Songs first came out a few odd people just labelled the Subject Matter corny.


I never understood this cos Nas recentley did a record about his daughter but i haven't seen a Nas fan so far that that corny, or same with 2pac's Dear Mama i know that was about his mother oppossed to daughter but in a general sense very similar concept and style of Song but to this day never seen a 2pac fan label that song corny.



It's understandable if people don't like Musical elements of these Songs like Hailies Song such as the Beat or Singing or Delivery that's fair enough if they didn't like those aspects but what makes a positive record about love and affection for 1s daughter 'corny'? that's the main issue

I personally don't really find those songs corny, I just don't listen to them often because they're all about Hailie. I think it would be corny if he started making songs about her NOW when she's a teenager.

[Kill You]

Not necessarily corny, we just don't wanna hear that shit on his next album. No one wants to hear him talk about Hailie because he's talked about her enough.

You know, I disagree, actually (to an extent). I think if it's the same "daddy loves you" bs, and doesn't actually say anything, then I agree we've had enough of that, but she could still be a good source of material, if he's willing to be open and poignant in his portrayal of her. The problem is he might not be willing to do that, for the sake of privacy. But what it's like having her grow up... what her personality's like, what their family dynamic is like and how he feels about it... it's corny yes, but also, I think, intriguing. She's still a major player in his life, and as long as he has new and insightful things say about her, I don't see why she should necessarily be a dead topic. I for one, am curious about how she'll turn out, just because her situation is quite uncommon--even amongst celebrity kids.

BUT, I would get it if he just keeps her off limits from now on, not wanting to put her on blast. But at the same time, Em needs to rap about things he actually means. Which is why it could possibly be a good thing. Just my opinion.

He should make a "Hailie's Boyfriend" track lmao. Have it be a comedy song, do something we haven't experienced before about Hailie.

I think it's concepts like these that COULD work for Em's next album if he continues with the non-serious approach to his music.

[EminemInsider]

Hailie's Song = good.
Mockingbird = shit.

Whether or not something is corny is in the lyricism, not in the "subject matter."

[Aftermathers]

At the time, songs like "Hailie's Song" seemed very corny to Eminem fans because two years prior to The Eminem Show, he had released The Marshall Mathers LP, and we all know how gruesome that album is. It was hard for fans to accept that the same man that made a song like "Kim" went out and recorded a song like "Hailie's Song".

People that I'm friends with don't find "When I'm Gone" or "Mockingbird" corny, they find them pretty emotional and appropriate. I'm pretty sure back in the day people were used to Eminem's 'corny' subject matter since he had released The Eminem Show which was pretty.. well.. family appropriate.

Nowadays, people find songs like "Not Afraid" and "Love The Way You Lie" corny because of the album he released in the last year: Relapse.

It's the same with me cos what really trips me out is this


I know people society may label as bad as it gets people that sell drugs, caught up in the gang thing in my life life i have never ever heard them say or think records like Hailies Song, Mockingbird, Dear Mama, Jesus Walks etc those type of positive Songs in general as corny people i knew who actually lived this lifestyle even respected them just cos of the positivity and how relatable the message is in the sense even if you not a parent you still love a family member like Em was expressing in those Songs or 2pac was for his mother.


But what you said i co sign i feel those Songs are respected fully by most fans but there is a few who hate them and your reasons make perfect sense.

[Aftermathers]

Not necessarily corny, we just don't wanna hear that shit on his next album. No one wants to hear him talk about Hailie because he's talked about her enough.

You know, I disagree, actually (to an extent). I think if it's the same "daddy loves you" bs, and doesn't actually say anything, then I agree we've had enough of that, but she could still be a good source of material, if he's willing to be open and poignant in his portrayal of her. The problem is he might not be willing to do that, for the sake of privacy. But what it's like having her grow up... what her personality's like, what their family dynamic is like and how he feels about it... it's corny yes, but also, I think, intriguing. She's still a major player in his life, and as long as he has new and insightful things say about her, I don't see why she should necessarily be a dead topic. I for one, am curious about how she'll turn out, just because her situation is quite uncommon--even amongst celebrity kids.

BUT, I would get it if he just keeps her off limits from now on, not wanting to put her on blast. But at the same time, Em needs to rap about things he actually means. Which is why it could possibly be a good thing. Just my opinion.

This is where i disagree if a person just skimmed through those Songs then they would think it's just 'i love you' but in the Songs he telling a story of the positives of his relationship with her, tthe hardships, the circumstances of the past etc

I mean what more could he have said in those Songs? same with Dear Mama what more could 2pac have said

[εncørε]

I don't know about everyone else, but I don't find them corny. They're definitely a lot more emotional than most of his other songs, but I don't see why that would be considered corny. If people think Eminem's dedicated too many songs to his daughter and it's repetitive or something, there are a lot of subjects that Eminem's focused on in multiple songs. I don't see why there should be a problem with a few songs about his daughter. If anything by Eminem's corny, it's most of Recovery.