Getting an Eminem fans point of view on Jay-z Vs. Nas

[Heffernan]

the facts

Jay sampled Nas voice...Nas got mad...basically that started the beef

many many diss songs

ether is a better diss

takeover is a better song

jay-z had sex with nas girlfriend/babys mother

nas then signed to the record company jay-z was the boss of

i say jay won...i dont see how anyone can argue nas won..but idk

I KNOW this is the eminem section..but its just a forum...and this is like the perfect place to ask this becuase were eminem stans..not jay or nas stans lol....if i go on anyother forum it will be biased in some kind of way...plus its been slow for eminem music or news lol

[dshady89]

overall nas lost tbh, and i mean considering the disses, their careers, relevance, etc.

[Heffernan]

id say its really all things considered...disses are the most important thing...but you gotta take everything in to account...and its not like jay-z didnt have good songs...blueprint 2, takeover, supa ugly....all pretty good..plus nas was just being a baby about dead presidents

[BILI]

Nas won, only camels think jay won..

[CrashBand]

If you didn't go by disses you would have an arguement for Benzino over Em.

[Heffernan]

Jay-z had good songs tho...Benzino didn't.

I said its all things considered...having sex with his girl is noteworthy lol.

Plus at the end of the day jay became his boss

Nas lost

[BILI]

Jay lost the "rap" beef.
Nas didn't lose, he's in this position because of his idiotic life choices, not because Jay slept with his bitch.
Nas is a better rapper and is considered better than Jay even in the public eye, that's what really matters to me.

In a way, Jay and 50 are the same person. They're both cowards.

I wouldnt agree with u there about 50, as much as I hate his music he`s not a coward...that dude is the most fearless rapper there is.

[Elision]

Nas

[BILI]

Jay lost the "rap" beef.
Nas didn't lose, he's in this position because of his idiotic life choices, not because Jay slept with his bitch.
Nas is a better rapper and is considered better than Jay even in the public eye, that's what really matters to me.

In a way, Jay and 50 are the same person. They're both cowards.

I wouldnt agree with u there about 50, as much as I hate his music he`s not a coward...that dude is the most fearless rapper there is.

I think you misunderstood what I meant.
I said they're cowards because they're more of backstabbers than straightforward people.

Even know the old 50 (late 90's-02) was reckless motherfucker.

Oh yeah that is true... they tend to fuck up other people for their own gain.

[Cupid Stunt]

Nas won, Jay Z sucks.

[Almostlity]

Nas had better diss records but look at those guys now.

Nas owes over 6 million in Taxes when Jay is halfway to being a billionaire, so you can't really say that Nas destroyed Jays career.

[Heffernan]

jay has more money thenhe knows what to do with..beyonce has nothing to do with it lol

i would not agree at all nas is a better rapper...i think he has some good songs..yes...but his flow is the one of the WORST flows ever..its like listening to paint dry

nas most certainly did start the beef..

im surprised everyone is siding with nas here

[Almostlity]

Nas had better diss records but look at those guys now.

Nas owes over 6 million in Taxes when Jay is halfway to being a billionaire, so you can't really say that Nas destroyed Jays career.

It's not about that though, it's about who won the beef. Nas did.

Jay's also married to Beyonce, so there's a good chunk of his money.

Jay-Z Net worth 475 mill
Beyonce net worth 300 mill

*shrug

[Heffernan]

nas is NOT one of the best ever...prob not top 10

[Heffernan]

it started cuz nas was complaining about the dead presidents sample

then nas made a diss to memphis bleek

little things back and forth

jay had sex with his girl

takeover live and jay said "nas dont want it with hov" or something like that

ether

more here and there shit

nas basically goes broke..tail between his legs signs to jays label