Lesbihonest, Beastie Boys are AWFUL

[Manly Moose]

I find 90's production to be the best....

I wasnt attacking 90's man, 90's probably is best.

[Block]

I know you acknowledged that they were groundbreaking, but I think you're missing the point completely. Evolution is a process. You can't look at a wheel from the stone age and say "Wow, were these motherfuckers retarded? Look how they made this. My vehicle's wheel is so much better!" Why? because they were the ones who INVENTED IT. Granted, BB's didn't invent rap, they played a pivitol part in getting it where it is today (especially white rappers). Eminem has stated himself that, without acts like the beastie boys and HoP paving the way, he probably wouldn't have done much.

It's more about paying homage to those that came before you--if you're an artist. Of course we are to expect today's music to be more defined and fine-tuned than it was then; it's only natural in the evolutionary process of the art form. But to say that it's trash simply because its evolutionary counterpart is more phonetically pleasing is like eliminating your great grandparents from your family tree... You may be younger and more full of energy, but without them you wouldn't exist.

[Amaranthine]

I know you acknowledged that they were groundbreaking, but I think you're missing the point completely. Evolution is a process. You can't look at a wheel from the stone age and say "Wow, were these motherfuckers retarded? Look how they made this. My vehicle's wheel is so much better!" Why? because they were the ones who INVENTED IT. Granted, BB's didn't invent rap, they played a pivitol part in getting it where it is today (especially white rappers). Eminem has stated himself that, without acts like the beastie boys and HoP paving the way, he probably wouldn't have done much.

It's more about paying homage to those that came before you--if you're an artist. Of course we are to expect today's music to be more defined and fine-tuned than it was then; it's only natural in the evolutionary process of the art form. But to say that it's trash simply because its evolutionary counterpart is more phonetically pleasing is like eliminating your great grandparents from your family tree... You may be younger and more full of energy, but without them you wouldn't exist.

Don't forget 3rd Bass.

[ImHungry]

Its kinda predictable that people here hate 80's production considering the vast majority are in love with the braindead corny overproduction on Obie Trices debut. Back in the 80's production was more about minimalism so there was focus on the rapper, and frankly the hiphop production of the 80s is much more interesting than anything coming out today. The rhymes werent as complicated, but lyrics were usually clever, it was a time when rap was about personality. Beasties are about the harmonic rapping and their tongue and cheek humor, they were just goofy fun and awful would not be an adequate description.

I agree.

[dead prez]

Its kinda predictable that people here hate 80's production considering the vast majority are in love with the braindead corny overproduction on Obie Trices debut. Back in the 80's production was more about minimalism so there was focus on the rapper, and frankly the hiphop production of the 80s is much more interesting than anything coming out today. The rhymes werent as complicated, but lyrics were usually clever, it was a time when rap was about personality. Beasties are about the harmonic rapping and their tongue and cheek humor, they were just goofy fun and awful would not be an adequate description.

Definitely cosign this minimalism is a style in and of itself and shitting on it because of that is completely missing the point, it's like shitting on a Ramones song for being to repetitive and simplistic when that's the whole fucking point of the song in the first place. Granted at the time they didn't have the luxury to have as much overproduced beats that we have nowadays, the styles were much sparser and is the subjective part of music.

Block's also right in that they paved the way for certain acts to be born so of course they're going to be a lot more rough around the edges and not as refined as today's music. This is how you repay them for their efforts, you ungrateful knave?