Eminem as a Producer/Beat Maker

[Blu]

Aftermathers, you don't know SHIT about producing so shut the fuck up.

"Em doesn't sample beats, so that means he's a fucking God at producing!!!! hurr durrr"
Since when is it against the fucking laws of producing to sample other music? Is there a rule book out there somewhere saying "THOU MUST NOT SAMPLE MUSIC FOR THOU BEATS"? No, there is not.

Eminem is an AVERAGE producer. Nothing he has produced was ever too "creative" or extremely memorable (besides "The Way I Am", but then again he co-produced that).

Other producers *COUGH* KANYE *COUGH* have a distinctive sound in their production as well. Do you ONLY listen to Eminem, have you ever even given other artists outside the Shady camp a chance?

[mdemaz]

As far as I know, Em' only knows a little bit about beat making.
He programs the drum patterns and sometimes does VST work, but I've mainly seen Resto and those other guys do the keyboards, bass and all that shit.

Em' has stated that he does think of the melodies in his head sometimes.

[B.A.D.]

Great Producers
Dj Premier
Dr Dre
Pete Rock
Havoc
Kanye West
Pharrell Williams

Good Producers
Alchemist
Eminem
J.U.S.T.I.C.E league
Just Blaze
Kahlil

Average Producers
Mr Porter
40
Alex Da Kid

Bad Producers
Lex Luger
Hopsin
anyone who has made a ringtone rao beat

In short, great producers have made pieces of work that have CHANGED the sound of hip-hop or at least have "re-invented" its sound (such as Kanye bringing back soulful samples with Late Registration). Great Producers have a long and consistent career and have had a couple good prodigies come from them and do well.

Good Producers have a distinct personality to their beats and are relatively consistent. However, they are hardly creative/innovative and simply fit the frame of the game instead of changing it. They have a few classics under them.

Average producers have had hit singles (which someone like Freespeech likes) but they suffer from either a lack of consistency or a lack or originality.

Bad producers- people who tamper with fruityloops and think they are producers lol. Badly mixed tracks, overproduction rampant, musical feel lost.

Great Post

Eminem is an alright, good producer, beacuse he is actually better than many, but he is not as great as the ones momentsgolden list. I agree with all of them

[momentsgolden]

That's pretty much a spot on list, only thing I would personally change putting Just Blaze on the great producers list, he's top 5 for me.

I would have put him there if he hadnt done such a shitty job with Recovery. He had 5 tracks submitted and none which are memorable to me. To make it worse, his "signature" production Blueprint had Eminem having possibly the 2 best produced tracks on it. Plus, i think his beats are way overrated such as that Lord Knows on Take Care. its good, but not jizz worthy IMHO. In short- overproduction

^I pretty much agree, but what about Khalil?
He made so many classic beats.

He has made good beats. Lots of club bangers too (He made Pump it up!!) but i havent listened to his more underground and early stuff so based off Recovery, fuck him.

Kush will always be legendary though. Best club banger since Make it Rain.

[Fiftys_Advocate]

Em produced Superman beat, sohe has to be (at least) good producer. That beat is probably my favorite of all time.

[Almostlity]

He has made good beats. Lots of club bangers too (He made Pump it up!!)

Just Blaze did that,not Khalil

[momentsgolden]

He has made good beats. Lots of club bangers too (He made Pump it up!!)

Just Blaze did that,not Khalil

my bad. I do tend to mix up some of these things when looking at albums you ddnt experience when they were released.

[TheGentlePlayer]

If you use your time and mix some samples, you can create a crazy beat. But i think producers who samples alot much get too much credit. Other people have made sounds from scrach and then they just use some of their sounds and Olala they have made a crazy beat.

Em actully make his own sound and that's great!

[Almostlity]

Lose Yourself is the most memorable song in the history oh Hip-Hop

Feel free to prove it/Explain why exactly.

Kanye Beats are wack

Now that's just ignorant.


mfw reading your post

[SajN]

Lose Yourself has one of the greatest beats I've heard. Don't know how people can hate on it.

Cleaning Out My Closet is dope too.

[Almostlity]

Feel free to prove it/Explain why exactly.

now THAT's just ignorant

Now that's just ignorant.

prove it/explain why

That's what i thought, You just cant.

[Almostlity]

[SajN]

Almostlity, you are a little too close-minded when it comes to Eminem, and too much of a Stanye when it comes to Kanye. You need to balance it.

[momentsgolden]

i think that people here totally underestimate good sampling. Do you know there are hip-hop tracks with 30 samples in one song?!! There is sampling like The Recipe or Spiteful Chant or (dare i say it) No Love that barely change the original and are simple loops. But Premier is well known for intricate difficult and (to some old school heads) great samples that are subtle but add to the tracks intensity. All i'm saying is that sampling is just like any musical instrument and is as good as the person using it. One person makes a catchy Twinkle Twinkle little star another makes a symphony #3. Its all about execution.

[SajN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TMXYjW-rR0

Lol, when I was at their concert, they did almost the same, except it was "Fuck Lil Wayne" instead.