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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby CrashBand » May 26th, '12, 01:29

Menzo wrote:^ So living your life by a book that promotes the moralities of being a good person is a waste of time? To each their own but...that just sounds fuckin stupid to me.

No, it's a waste of time hoping and praying that there is another life. You can still live to those same moralities of being a good person if you believe they are a good way to live by.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby classthe_king » May 26th, '12, 18:04

Menzo wrote:^ So living your life by a book that promotes the moralities of being a good person is a waste of time? To each their own but...that just sounds fuckin stupid to me.


So you need a 2000 year old book to tell you that you need to be a good person? Couldn't figure that out on your own? That just sounds fuckin stupid to me.

And no one would have a problem with Christians if they actually did abide by the bible and the teachers of Jesus but when its just used to justify the discrimination of homosexuals, and the fight against abortion, birth control, stem cell research, evolution, etc. then it's not only morally out of date but a hindrance to human progress.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Eedee » May 31st, '12, 23:45

I remember hearing a good quote by Penn Jillette recently, had to Google it cuz I couldn't remember it verbatim, but this:

"If every trace of any single religion were wiped out and nothing were passed on, it would never be created exactly that way again. There might be some other nonsense in its place, but not that exact nonsense. If all of science were wiped out, it would still be true and someone would find a way to figure it all out again."


Such a great quote, and more than likely true if this were to happen.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby CrashBand » Jun 1st, '12, 05:41

Nice quote. I find it amazing that something that seems so obvious as 'science is true and religon is made up' is so hard for people to comprehend.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby J.R. » Jun 1st, '12, 16:17

For the cheeky cunts quoting my
Opening post saying "you die and decompose" every page, I'm aware.
Also, I'm agnostic leaning towards the theory that it was like it was before we were born (nothing) but that doesn't mean you can reply to the Christians with "omg
Your a retarded faggot!!1!1!1!" k ? Continue :P
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby JustEnjoytheMusic » Jun 2nd, '12, 13:04

Menzo wrote:^ So living your life by a book that promotes the moralities of being a good person is a waste of time? To each their own but...that just sounds fuckin stupid to me.


It's a nice thought, but reality looks different.
Thousands (if not millions) of people have been subdued, prosecuted and killed these past millenia in the name of religion. No matter how much said religion originally promoted the moralities of being a good person.

The unbelievable arrogance some people have to proclaim that their and only their religion is true while everybody else is doomed is what put me off church and religion in general.

Personally, I think there is more to the world than we can see and measure with whatever tools we have at our disposal. It's too complex for any human being to understand. That's all. What that "more" is, I can't say. It's not relevant to my life other than general respect for life (yet I eat meat, but that's another debate entirely).
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby xnoxiousx » Jun 9th, '12, 01:57

I thought atheist people believed in facts? Fact is you dont know that nothing happens and its all blank. Could be nothing could be something you wont know till your dead or you might not know since you wont remember shit it will be like your asleep.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Eedee » Jun 9th, '12, 02:32

xnoxiousx wrote:I thought atheist people believed in facts? Fact is you dont know that nothing happens and its all blank. Could be nothing could be something you wont know till your dead or you might not know since you wont remember shit it will be like your asleep.


Brain function controls everything about you. Your thinking, your consciousness, your body functions... no reason NOT to think there's nothing when your brain stops working.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby cityfan31 » Jun 9th, '12, 06:15

Menzo wrote:^ So living your life by a book that promotes the moralities of being a good person is a waste of time? To each their own but...that just sounds fuckin stupid to me.


The Old Testament is horrific and the New Testament isn't much better.

Child rape, the spread of AIDS, holy war, genital mutilation of children, persecution of homosexuals/women/black people, suicide bombing... just some of the direct consequences of religion on the world.

To think that a man-made, invented, inconsistent storybook is needed to provide our morals is an insult to mankind.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby CrashBand » Jun 9th, '12, 06:25

cityfan31 wrote:
Menzo wrote:^ So living your life by a book that promotes the moralities of being a good person is a waste of time? To each their own but...that just sounds fuckin stupid to me.


The Old Testament is horrific and the New Testament isn't much better.

Child rape, the spread of AIDS, holy war, genital mutilation of children, persecution of homosexuals/women/black people, suicide bombing... just some of the direct consequences of religion on the world.

To think that a man-made, invented, inconsistent storybook is needed to provide our morals is an insult to mankind.

An appropriate correction, if I may, with sexism being a consequence of religion.

yes i agree, it is an insult to *humankind
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby xnoxiousx » Jun 9th, '12, 13:32

Eedee wrote:
xnoxiousx wrote:I thought atheist people believed in facts? Fact is you dont know that nothing happens and its all blank. Could be nothing could be something you wont know till your dead or you might not know since you wont remember shit it will be like your asleep.


Brain function controls everything about you. Your thinking, your consciousness, your body functions... no reason NOT to think there's nothing when your brain stops working.

Still not facts no one knows facts and will ever till they die. I can see why people like to believe there is an afterlife gives them hope i guess makes them feel better than accepting there might be nothing.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby AJS2050 » Jul 10th, '12, 03:09

I'm non-religious. It's quite nice to see that around 60% of Great Britain is now. Anyway in simple terms.. I look at my cats or dog and notice how they are happy just living their life. Eating, playing, sleeping, etc.. Not a care for a "god" and as a fellow creature of this planet i too just focus on being happy and enjoying life without a care of a "god".
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Emadyville » Jul 10th, '12, 03:34

AJS2050 wrote:I'm non-religious. It's quite nice to see that around 60% of Great Britain is now. Anyway in simple terms.. I look at my cats or dog and notice how they are happy just living their life. Eating, playing, sleeping, etc.. Not a care for a "god" and as a fellow creature of this planet i too just focus on being happy and enjoying life without a care of a "god".


I never thought about nor considered this idea, but I surely like it :y:
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby BigBoss » Jul 10th, '12, 03:40

Of people wanna believe in god then that's fine, I think it's great to have faith in sonething when you need it. As for myself, I'm a man who believes IN faith, but not a man OF faith.


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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Emadyville » Jul 10th, '12, 03:45

BigBoss wrote:Of people wanna believe in god then that's fine, I think it's great to have faith in sonething when you need it. As for myself, I'm a man who believes IN faith, but not a man OF faith.


EDIT: holy shit, AJ hasn't been here in awhile.


I'm not trying to be a dick so don't take this question the wrong way, I'm actually curious of two things, and maybe you can only answer one of my questions.

What does it mean to believe in faith?

and

What does it mean to be a man of faith?
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