Mike [Elizondo] has also worked with Jay-Z and Eminem. Could you see yourself working with a rapper? Like, having Eminem or someone sample your music?
Oh, I love Eminem. I mean, when I first heard about Mike — like, that he wanted to work with me — I didn’t know anything about him except that he’d worked with Eminem. And I was just like, Oh he worked with Eminem. I want to meet him so bad. And I think inside, like secretly, any time I’ve ever met anybody who knows Eminem or has done anything with Eminem, I go on this entire mental [rant]: They’ll play my songs for him. And then he’ll want to do a song with me or he’ll want to use the chorus like he did on “Stan.” And so of course it would be really cool, but there’s not a lot of rappers that I really care about that much. It’s sort of hard to care about something that’s just so opposite to your ideals. I mean, the reason why I love Eminem so much, or I love Biggie Smalls, but he’s not around anymore, is they’re storytellers. And so they’re like acting out these awesome fiction stories and they’re playing all these characters and there’s all this humor and heart mixed together. But I think nuanced rappers are a rare bird because, for the most part, it’s just so self-aggrandizing that it’s exhausting. It’s like the same way that I feel about wearing shirts that have brands written right on them; I feel like, Why would I want to wear your stupid vain t-shirt? If you just have, like, a flower on it — but you just ruined it by putting your name on it, you know? And I think I feel that way about rappers. Like, you almost had me, but then you started talking all this shit about yourself and how great you are, and now I just want to turn it off.
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. She said everything that annoys me about a lot of rappers with that "wearing a shirt with brands written on them" metaphor.
