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What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Man1x » Jul 11th, '12, 05:57

I'd have to say......Cashis
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby ShadysDisciple » Jul 11th, '12, 06:16

That phase he went through in 06-07 where he was always hanging with G Unit and rapping about packing pistols.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Mr Change » Jul 11th, '12, 08:49

Just Silver wrote:
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Just Silver wrote:his hiatus regardless the reasoning

Going to rehab was the smartest thing he's ever done.

Would you rather have him not go to rehab and continue like a drunken pill zombie, eventually dying between 07-08 or have what we have today?

i guess it was mandatory but itd be nice to see some mmlp2 type material


I don't understand how you figure we'd see MMLP 2 type material :confusion:

If he didn't go to Rehab, his next(and undoubtedly last) album would have been Encore made over with 50 on every track talking about their 'haters' and how he's gonna be shootin' more than just paintballs. :facepalm2
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby CrashBand » Jul 11th, '12, 08:51

corny punchlines were a pretty awful idea
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Guess_Who » Jul 11th, '12, 09:53

Musically- Encore

On a personal level I guess a addiction that almost kill him, also I guess he made his daughers suffer much with this, wich must be hard for him to face it.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Epidemik » Jul 11th, '12, 10:22

His gangster era..
not that the music was horrible during this time, because apart from Encore, his diss tracks at this time were insanely awesome.. but just his style. wearing doo rags and such.. was not a good look for him
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Mathers » Jul 11th, '12, 11:41

Encore and apologising to his fans.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Table » Jul 11th, '12, 12:05

Other than the ones already mentioned, collaborating with Rihanna and Bruno. Not that I hate either of them but it gave off an impression that he was too desperate to reach to a pop friendly audience(which he lost during the hiatus and Relapse failed relatively), it kinda worked but opened a few doors for the Hip Hop purists to hate. Rest cases were not really under his control tbh. Gangsta phase...yeah maybe.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Steve Spag » Jul 11th, '12, 13:04

Man1x wrote:I'd have to say......Cashis

I think Ca$his is pretty talented in some ways, he just wasn't marketed right. It's not his fault, he got to the label when Em was in pretty bad shape so he obviously wasn't a priority. Same with Stat Quo, he was a decent rapper (not great) but never got the right chance to shine, and I think that's a shame because with a powerhouse like Aftermath/Interscope behind you nothing should be able to get in your way.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby shadymathers313 » Jul 11th, '12, 14:43

besides Encore and the drug problem, id say wasting a those great verses on D12 for Devil's Night. Even though the album is good, its only popular and did well bc Em was all over the tracks. picture that album is it was just Em. this is right after the MMLP where he was killing shit. like stated above, a MMLP 2 sort of album would of been amazing. Devils Night has that rugged, raw, ill fucking kill you style that makes MMLP so amazing addicting even to this day. then drop TES and BOOM.....game over. no rappers can compete with that
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 11th, '12, 16:11

Compromising and dropping Recovery/opting for Recovery over Relapse 2.
Creating a new greater commercial image,Eminem has always been commercial,but i think he wanted to become more commercial since 2010,which i dont quite like.

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Also this,which is kinda showing me that Eminem is a fucking disloyal bitch.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby UofLCard » Jul 11th, '12, 16:27

ShadysDisciple wrote:That phase he went through in 06-07 where he was always hanging with G Unit and rapping about packing pistols.


That's another one.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Sam. » Jul 11th, '12, 20:46

Amaranthine wrote:Encore.

No.
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby EminemInsider » Jul 12th, '12, 05:37

Cube23 wrote:
Cosh wrote:pills.


It's impossible to say what kind of music we would have had if Eminem made his first three albums through sober penmanship. Did he take it too far? Absolutely. But his drug use, I believe, brought him to push the envelope as far as he did and most certainly improved his performances.


Um, his first 3 albums were made under "sober penmanship," idiot.

I can't believe this stupidity is still around. Well, no, of course I can. The stupid internet stoner morons love to believe that drugs don't mean you can't function at an eeeeeepic level, bro, so they'd love to believe that Eminem wrote his genius lyrics under the influence of these mind hindering substances. After all, it justifies their continued use. "They open up neural pathways, maaaan."

The influence of drugs never led to good art until after someone got sober. Period, the end.

Eminem smoking weed and popping ecstasy recreationally during tours had absolutely nothing to do with his music. He wasn't sitting there high, crafting such intricate rhyme schemes that there's a bajillion page thread breaking them all down on this forum.

Eminem didn't pop some pills and then go, "A HA! Entertainment is changin/Intertwinin with gangsters/In the land of the killers, a sinner's mind is a sanctum! OK, time to craft some inverse multis. Now how the fuck did this metamorphosis happen?/From standin on corners and porches just rappin/To havin a fortune, no more kissin ass! Thank you, vicodin, valium, ambien, nyquil, and alcohol, for slowing my heart rate down to a crawl but opening da neural pathways!!!"
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Re: What was Eminem's biggest mistake in his career?

Postby Amaranthine » Jul 12th, '12, 06:06

..........Actually, I hate to break it to you, but...Em did write parts of the first three albums under the influence, particularly MMLP. You can't truthfully say that he wrote all three of them stone-cold sober.

Mathers says you can trace the arc of his addiction by listening to his albums: He was more or less sober writing the white-trash party that was The Slim Shady LP (1999); he credits experimentation with drugs for taking his music to unexpected places on The Marshall Mathers LP (2000); with The Eminem Show (2002), he struck the perfect balance—a potent mix of punch-line raps and intensely biographical material. Then the balance tipped: His fourth album, Encore, was his weakest, and it took him two years to complete because of his addiction to pills.


I met Eminem by accident just after he’d finished throwing up a fifth of Bacardi and a slice of pizza. It was all he’d eaten that day but was only an appetizer for what was to follow: three club appearances spiced with four ecstasy caps, chased with ginger ale. Cruising from Staten Island back to Manhattan that night, Eminem was a different kind of tour guide. Riding a high that would floor most people, he was a lyrical
Tasmanian devil, spitting couplets at all of us—his manager (Paul Rosenberg), DJ Stretch Armstrong, collaborator Royce Da 59, and a few others—that caused combustive laughter, jaw-gaping awe, or, often, red-faced embarrassment for the subject of his well-aimed darts. He was a living, breathing, drinking, falling, and reeling Slim Shady that night. His energy was almost tangible, as if you could see his synapses firing. The bits of stimuli before him flooded into his dilated pupils, coursed over his brain, and were spit back out at us, redefined in rhymes, jibes, and insults impossible to rebut. He commanded the room, the limo, the afterparty, wherever we were, not because we, his entourage, were a doting audience—in fact, there were many wits in the bunch—it was because no one could touch him.

...As the E starts to hit him, Eminem becomes a word dervish, a rhyme tornado, a spaz, and a force that can’t be reckoned with. In most people, ecstasy brings on a state of bliss. In Eminem, it brings out Slim Shady. Right now Slim Shady is cranked up to eleven and bristling with energy he can’t contain. His drug-fueled rhymes are sharp, and he cannot sit still. When the radio catches his ear, he’ll rap along perfectly with OutKast’s “Rosa Parks” or DMX’s “Ruff Ryders Anthem,” until the next bit of stimuli redirects him.


"For those who are curious about my methods in the studio, it goes a little like this. If I'm writing rhymes I smoke weed or take Tylenol, or muscle relaxants, something to get the stories rolling. Or I take ecstasy. A couple of the songs on the new record [MMLP] were written on X," he confirmed to music365.
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