Is Em still the only passable lyricist in the mainstream?

[Accor]

Also yes, it is. Recovery has some songs that are great lyrically

Yeah, and I've seen you cite Space Bound as one of those "great" tracks, which tells me that you think an Eminem song is great purely because it's seriouzzzz/emotional, even if the flow and rhyming is garbage.

Maybe I should have said that it was good compared to the other songs on Recovery lol. The content is better than most of the other songs and there aren't as many terrible punchlines on it (if any).

And yeah my favourite songs on Recovery are the serious ones because the non serious Eminem songs as of late suck lol.

[Accor]

I said lyrically and delivery wise...what is so incomprehensible about that? Lol.

You think lyrics=rhymes though.

There were not nearly as many corny punches as you make out to be, the song with the corniest punches by far is "Not Afraid" and that's probably his softest/fakest song on the album and coincidentally was the single.

Why do you keep using the word corny? They aren't corny. They're flat out horrible. And no, the song with the most cringe worthy punchlines is definitely WBD although Not Afraid is pretty bad too.

"So Bad" is far from mediocre lyrically...again, I don't even know what you mean by lyrically in its entirety, but it captures the nonchalant sarcastic essence of Slim Shady and he rhymes pretty damn good on it too (even if that's the least important to you).

But, as a filler track...maybe, it does seem a little random but I think he just needed to put a Dre track on it.

So Bad definitely is filler. The concept is unoriginal, and there's nothing special about it lyrically. The rhymes aren't even great. That thank you for staying april thing for example.

He could have done something a lot better with a Dre beat but then again he just wanted to rush something mainstreamish out so people would accept him again.

What ARE you complaining about then? You aren't actually describing your definitive interpretation of what "lyrical" means.

And no, I'm not trying to justify the lyricism of those two songs by comparing multies, but you're giving me nothing to work with. What? "Stan" was an artistic boundary breaking masterpiece meanwhile "The Reunion" was just a funny storytelling track? Alright...the fuck do I say about that? I'm not gonna try to say "The Reunion" is anything groundbreaking...

You're delusional.

I'm saying that the lyrics weren't very good. The rhyming was fine (although one of his worst albums rhyme wise other than Encore), but there's hardly any original ideas, it's filled with terrible punchlines, there's nothing witty, insightful , or interesting about the lyrics.

What is good about Recovery to you?..

[Mathers]

Does Nas count?

[M15HKA]

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If you're judging it solely on rhyme schemes it's great. But other than that, his flow, and the production/mixing, it's bad. It's very bad in every aspect of lyricism other than rhymes

So wait let me get this straight you said Relapse is a bad album lyrically because of his flow and production/mixing?

Explain to me what these other aspects of lyricism are.

[Accor]

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If you're judging it solely on rhyme schemes it's great. But other than that, his flow, and the production/mixing, it's bad. It's very bad in every aspect of lyricism other than rhymes

So wait let me get this straight you said Relapse is a bad album lyrically because of his flow and production/mixing?

Explain to me what these other aspects of lyricism are.

Can you not read lol, I said other than his flow and the production/mixing, it's bad.

[Blu]

Did anyone name Kendrick? I'm too lazy to read through all the pages tbh.

I'd definitely say Kendrick, Kanye, Pusha T, Nas for sure... I don't know, like you said Elision I don't really keep a close eye on the mainstream that much, these are the only rap artists I pay attention to.