Favorite Black Hippy Member?!

[Man1x]

My list goes: Kendrick Lamar > Ab-Soul > Schoolboy Q > Jay Rock
Section.80 > Control System > Habits & Contradictions > Follow Me Home (first three >*)

[Man1x]

I want to ask you how did you find Habits & Contradictions? I want to re-listen maybe to give it another chance, what should I focus more when listening to ScHoolboy, cause last time around I almost fell asleep

I found it on iTunes by accident just like I did with Section.80, which I feel in love with and couldn't put down... Hell, I still can't. But ya, I found it before I knew about Black Hippy and that he was with Kendrick. I bought it, listened to Hands on the Wheel, feel in love and listened to some more. Nightmare on Figg St. and Blessed (second verse is soooo amazing) are the next songs I feel in love with then I loved Grooveline and the rest was amazing after. I still think Control System is the second bed Black Hippy album after Section.80 doe, and by that time I knew all about Blak Hippy.

[momentsgolden]

Honestly?! Jay Rock to me is just another "Strange Music" artist who is not Tech N9ne. He is good, just like Krizz Kaliko, Kutt Calhaun or Stevie Stone but while each is individual they all sorta fade in the background as "strange music" artists and that is kinda stale. Brother Lynch Hung definitely stands out but i'm not a fan of horrocore so its whatever.

Now, Schoolboy Q- Look, i'm a fan of artists. Musical artists, not rappers. I like Yelawolf because when he makes "Pop the Trunk" his heart, mind and soul is into it. He is willing to be homeless and travel across the country to make great music. Even his dumbed down music (Radioactive) has that little bit of Soul in it that i like. Unfortunately, i dont get that with Schoolboy Q. Maybe its because i already know he's in it for the money. (Calling himself Diddy, idea to form the crew so he wont have to write too many verses etc) but when i listened to Habits and Contradictions i just dont get that intangible spark or fire that makes him stand out.

Ab Soul- now, Ab-soul is a great rapper. He puts effort into his thoughts and he can put words together creatively. Its Musically where i find him a bit lacking. While Some of the beats on the album where quite alternative (SOPA, Terrorist Threats, Book of Soul) i just find him one-dimensional. Its mostly exhibited by the time they attempted 5 fingers of Death on Sway in the morning. He couldnt switch up his flows.

Now Kendrick Lamar- i have 3 rappers who are in my permanent top 5 list. Kendrick Lamar, Eminem and Tech N9ne. The things they have in common are just fucking other level EPICNESS. His VOICE is so unique even Lady Gaga is complimenting him on it. His rhymes are so real thugs like Game give him props. His effort is so intense he enjoys Dr Dre's demands. His appeal is so wide Drake put him on his album. From War is my Love, to Power Circle, to The Recipe, to Catch a Fade Kendrick lamar is CONSISTENTLY putting out high quality music even outside his album. I love his approach to music, i love his wordplay, i love his message (even Christian rappers like Lecrae do). If there is one person with the potential to create a Stan-like Cult following in black hippy where he can go away for 5 years and still be the hottest rapper on the planet its him. To be honest, i'm SCARED for his debut album Good Kid m.a.a.d City because if its not ALBUM OF THE DECADE i fear i might start listening to indie Rock

[momentsgolden]

I gave Kaliko's album a listen and i loved it. Kill shit, dancing with Myself are the ones that i remember off the top and i remember too that his (viral?) videos for the album were mad dope. Add Rittz and Chammillionare features and you have a solid, solid release.

I heard mayday's production on Klusterfuk and liked it. I think i've only heard about 4 joints from their Take Me to Your Leader tape and they were alright to good. Wreckonize is an ILL MC though, saw him on sway in the morning and he killed it.

Stevie Stone- i think i have only heard the Tech N9ne features (808 bending and the other one). Bumps in the whip.

I'm not saying they are not good artists or that they make bad projects. Just saying in the same way every Pusha T and Big Sean are overshadowed by Kanye, or Kuniva and Swifty by Eminem that FOR ME, their Stardust kinda diminishes.

[Man1x]

Honestly?! Jay Rock to me is just another "Strange Music" artist who is not Tech N9ne. He is good, just like Krizz Kaliko, Kutt Calhaun or Stevie Stone but while each is individual they all sorta fade in the background as "strange music" artists and that is kinda stale. Brother Lynch Hung definitely stands out but i'm not a fan of horrocore so its whatever.

Now, Schoolboy Q- Look, i'm a fan of artists. Musical artists, not rappers. I like Yelawolf because when he makes "Pop the Trunk" his heart, mind and soul is into it. He is willing to be homeless and travel across the country to make great music. Even his dumbed down music (Radioactive) has that little bit of Soul in it that i like. Unfortunately, i dont get that with Schoolboy Q. Maybe its because i already know he's in it for the money. (Calling himself Diddy, idea to form the crew so he wont have to write too many verses etc) but when i listened to Habits and Contradictions i just dont get that intangible spark or fire that makes him stand out.

Ab Soul- now, Ab-soul is a great rapper. He puts effort into his thoughts and he can put words together creatively. Its Musically where i find him a bit lacking. While Some of the beats on the album where quite alternative (SOPA, Terrorist Threats, Book of Soul) i just find him one-dimensional. Its mostly exhibited by the time they attempted 5 fingers of Death on Sway in the morning. He couldnt switch up his flows.

Now Kendrick Lamar- i have 3 rappers who are in my permanent top 5 list. Kendrick Lamar, Eminem and Tech N9ne. The things they have in common are just fucking other level EPICNESS. His VOICE is so unique even Lady Gaga is complimenting him on it. His rhymes are so real thugs like Game give him props. His effort is so intense he enjoys Dr Dre's demands. His appeal is so wide Drake put him on his album. From War is my Love, to Power Circle, to The Recipe, to Catch a Fade Kendrick lamar is CONSISTENTLY putting out high quality music even outside his album. I love his approach to music, i love his wordplay, i love his message (even Christian rappers like Lecrae do). If there is one person with the potential to create a Stan-like Cult following in black hippy where he can go away for 5 years and still be the hottest rapper on the planet its him. To be honest, i'm SCARED for his debut album Good Kid m.a.a.d City because if its not ALBUM OF THE DECADE i fear i might start listening to indie Rock

I'd have to disagree with the Ab-Soul review. He's deffinitily not one-dimensional. You would know this if you listened to his complete body of work. Also, Schoolboy Q was in it for the money when we were back in 2009. He now actually cares about his out put and you'd know that if you saw how well he's progressed from '09 and if you read one of his interviews. And I agree with the Kendrick review, and I see why you'd think that of Jay Rock. Rock is deffinitily the weak link. Anyway, you Kendrick Lamar is Christian too right?

[Cube23]

I can't pick. I love Kendrick and Schoolboy equally. I've stated that Schoolboy's personality that he presents with his ad libs is right up there for me with Kanye, Lil B, 2 Chaiinz, and Eminem. I love him and he's hilarious and dark at time. Kendrick is just so good that it's astonishing. It's a toss-up for me.

[Man1x]

I found Habits & Contradictions to be an amazing project, obviously. I mean the tracks flow together perfectly and it seems like a movie. From the first song, Sacrilegious, where he admits that his previous actions were stupid choices that'll have to forever live with (example, selling OxyContin and being rated out to serve jail time) to 2 Raw (feat. Jay Rock) where he uses a double entendre of fucking your bitch and smoking to having his team, Black Hippy, accomplish breaking into the game. It's a celebratory track. The highlights of this album being Hands on the Wheel (feat. A$AP Rocky), Nightmare on Figg St., Blessed (feat. Kendrick Lamar), and Grooveline, Pt. 1. The concept is pretty much described in the title of the album, Habits & Contradictions. The album is Schoolboy Q reflecting on his past habits and seeing where he has to improve as a human being. Now, even though the last part of that sentence seems hopeful, the album has a dark, moody atmosphere. It expands gangster music by reflecting on his life in a darker light. On some tracks it seems apparent that being a gangster, to him anyway, is fun. However, you realize that being a gangster was an old habit he's trying to break, and that he hates the former life he ran. That doesn't mean he doesn't draw on that past life to reflect in his music, because he certainly does. He also brings in a lyrical style that can only be explained as being a mix between the lyrical abilities of Jay-Z and Nas and the catchy, addictive feeling of a 50 Cent hook (whom he looks to as an idol because he can relate to what 50's been through). Tracks like Blessed show, however, that he, musically, is nothing like 50 Cent beyond catchy hooks. The track progresses and he depicts a friend losing a daughter and how he will always support that family if they need help. He then talks about his past life's friends on the street and tells them to keep strong. All of that emotion is in the second verse and it's enough to make you feel in your heart for the people he depicts. He then reaches out with words that promote the idea of a better life for these people. The album is a good balance between his Habits & Contradictions.

Also, He was in it for he money in '09, like I've said before. That isn't the case any more as he actually cares about his musical output and I have the proof if you want it. Anyway, his nickname, Diddy, was a joke on his former personality. Everyone in the group has one, I believe Kendrick is Birdman, Numba 1 Stunna. Is Kendrick like Birdman at all? No... Black Hippy just jokes around with themselves and that's the reason by they have nicknames. Schoolboy Q has even stated that his music comes first, but that he looks up to people like Jay-Z, 50 Cent, and Diddy because those people don't ever stop growing and never give up. I mean, I'm sure he wants money (who doesn't), but he won't sacrifice his sound to get it, and won't be 50 Cent where once you get rich you stop trying.

[LIL_B]

Kendrick easily
Ab-Soul is amazing tho

[Man1x]

I found Habits & Contradictions to be an amazing project, obviously. I mean the tracks flow together perfectly and it seems like a movie. From the first song, Sacrilegious, where he admits that his previous actions were stupid choices that'll have to forever live with (example, selling OxyContin and being rated out to serve jail time) to 2 Raw (feat. Jay Rock) where he uses a double entendre of fucking your bitch and smoking to having his team, Black Hippy, accomplish breaking into the game. It's a celebratory track. The highlights of this album being Hands on the Wheel (feat. A$AP Rocky), Nightmare on Figg St., Blessed (feat. Kendrick Lamar), and Grooveline, Pt. 1. The concept is pretty much described in the title of the album, Habits & Contradictions. The album is Schoolboy Q reflecting on his past habits and seeing where he has to improve as a human being. Now, even though the last part of that sentence seems hopeful, the album has a dark, moody atmosphere. It expands gangster music by reflecting on his life in a darker light. On some tracks it seems apparent that being a gangster, to him anyway, is fun. However, you realize that being a gangster was an old habit he's trying to break, and that he hates the former life he ran. That doesn't mean he doesn't draw on that past life to reflect in his music, because he certainly does. He also brings in a lyrical style that can only be explained as being a mix between the lyrical abilities of Jay-Z and Nas and the catchy, addictive feeling of a 50 Cent hook (whom he looks to as an idol because he can relate to what 50's been through). Tracks like Blessed show, however, that he, musically, is nothing like 50 Cent beyond catchy hooks. The track progresses and he depicts a friend losing a daughter and how he will always support that family if they need help. He then talks about his past life's friends on the street and tells them to keep strong. All of that emotion is in the second verse and it's enough to make you feel in your heart for the people he depicts. He then reaches out with words that promote the idea of a better life for these people. The album is a good balance between his Habits & Contradictions.

Also, He was in it for he money in '09, like I've said before. That isn't the case any more as he actually cares about his musical output and I have the proof if you want it. Anyway, his nickname, Diddy, was a joke on his former personality. Everyone in the group has one, I believe Kendrick is Birdman, Numba 1 Stunna. Is Kendrick like Birdman at all? No... Black Hippy just jokes around with themselves and that's the reason by they have nicknames. Schoolboy Q has even stated that his music comes first, but that he looks up to people like Jay-Z, 50 Cent, and Diddy because those people don't ever stop growing and never give up. I mean, I'm sure he wants money (who doesn't), but he won't sacrifice his sound to get it, and won't be 50 Cent where once you get rich you stop trying.

Damn! man that's the best detailed explanation of an album I've seen yet! thanks for breaking it down for me, I failed to see the meanings of each track on the first listen, but now, with all the info you gave me, I will give the album another go, hopefully, I can get more into him next time around.

And I did not know about he was in it for the money thing until a previous comment, but thanks for clearing that up again, Nice to see his head's in the right place, and true who wouldn't want money...

My list goes: Kendrick Lamar > Ab-Soul > Schoolboy Q > Jay Rock
Section.80 > Control System > Habits & Contradictions > Follow Me Home (first three >*)

Kinda this, Ab-Soul is fuckin amazing but Kendrick is just too good.
Schoolboy is dope as well, Jay is just average.

yeah could be the weak link in the group, imagine if Danny Brown was the 4th member, but gotta give him credit for what he does though, he's not horrible

Yeah, your welcome for the review. I hope you grow to like him. Also, Jay Rock is easily the weak link but he does have moments where he makes you go, "dayummmm." He's above average, but easily fades behind Kendrick Lamar and Tech N9ne. But to say he's an average rapper would only be true with his beginning to Black Friday. Follow Me Home was above average, however it was kind of a rehash of From Hood Tales to the Cover of XXL, had a load of concepts from his older material, and sounded too much like The Documentary. However, his guest verse on Black Lip Bastard (Remix) was dope and shows signs of improvement.

[ShadysDisciple]

I haven't heard too much from Black Hippy, but I like what i've heard from Jay Rock.

[Man1x]

Yeah K. Dot, Soulo, and Q take shit to another level, and Jay's above average. Code Red was so dope. @Lello BTW, did your second listen seem better or nah?

[ShadysDisciple]

I haven't heard too much from Black Hippy, but I like what i've heard from Jay Rock.

Hell yeah. This song is him with 2 of Strange's heavyweights (Tech and Krizz Kaliko) and he holds his own very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz7Q6E6wjrI

So dope.

[slimfan94]

I LOVE Ab-Soul but Kendrick >>>>

[momentsgolden]

But now I can be perfectly honest, Kendrick Lamar >>>* he is just on a whole other level (not a whole other level than Black Hippy, but from the rap game). Kendrick is absolutely amazing, and Section.80 is the best album since the Eminem Show BY FAR.

Lello for the win!! Kendrick Lamar is the most natural rapper on that label and watching everyone from TDE talk about him from Jay Rock and Schoolboy Q to Digi phonics and Ali... you do get the feeling he is something special. Soundwave claims he will come at random hours of the day just to lay some vocals and the fact that he nailed Rigarmotis in 3 takes?!! Incredible man.

[Man1x]

ok I made this thread and voted for Ab-Soul, I love Ab-Soul, dude's overlooked/underrated, so that's why I voted for him and talked to about him the most, so y'all would give him a chance.

But now I can be perfectly honest, Kendrick Lamar >>>* he is just on a whole other level (not a whole other level than Black Hippy, but from the rap game). Kendrick is absolutely amazing, and Section.80 is the best album since the Eminem Show BY FAR.

o and since I've made this thread, I've changed my mind 180 degrees about ScHoolboy Q, gave his album another chance, I appreciate him a lot now, in fact, I love bumping him now

I still have to gave Jay Rock more chances....

I agree 100% with this, and in regards to Jay Rock, I'll say this. His last album was above average but had nothing that would stand the test of time. After the last three albums dropped by his Black Hippy group members, however, will no doubt make him up his game. They always say that they try to out do each other with every project. I'll judge him on his next album, if he doesn't improve then he isn't worth keeping in Black Hippy.