If you're atheist..

[BigBoss]

Stop being faggots and leave it be.

[CrashBand]

Easy now.

Just waiting on Rev to respond to our typical atheist posts.

[Eedee]

Stop being faggots and leave it be.

When religion stops advocating bigotry, violence, genocide, slaughter, the burning of witches, the Crusades, the uprooting of native tribes and homes, the indoctrination of children around the world through threats of eternal torment and the condemnation of anyone different, then I'll leave it be.

[Chet Starr]

I regularly scream out HAIL SATAN!!!

But I'm proud of people with faith. Faith, when pure, can be a beautiful thing

Faith is like rap. A few 100 guys fucked it up for everyone lol

[Eedee]

That's a pretty lame and stereotypical excuse people back pedal on.

That wasn't really a substantial comment from BigBoss to really back pedal ON, tbh.


Religions support the act of violence or force when absolutely necessary, like during the mass exodus of Jews from Egypt and subsequently, the number of violent battles with tribes along the way.

Like the Holocaust? That was absolutely necessary? The bombing of abortion clinics? All the people who've said "God told me too" or "It was just God's plan" after they've gotten caught?

Unfortunately, people in the past and present use religion as a shield to commit such acts. The Crusades...doing something in the name of religion doesn't mean it's religion's doing. That's the same logic as blaming an artist for a school shooting, "Oh well, he LISTENED to Marylin Manson so we'll blame him". They're parallel scenarios.

Uhh, actually yes it does. If you're doing something in the name of it, then that means it affected you so deeply to commit such acts in it's name. The shooters never went around screaming "MARYLIN!!!!!"... They did it because they were fucked up in the head. However religion is a different beast. It's a lifestyle. It's a way of thinking. They might listen to Manson but ultimately it was God that made them do these things, not the music they listened to.

It's also humorous that you're using "uprooting native tribes and homes" as a religion based issue. Converting them, sure that's fine - but they already had a belief system in their own type of 'god' so in essence, that just chalked one off the board (giving atheists one less religion to hate..you're welcome). But the nations that uncovered North America would have uprooted anything exactly the same way whether religion was around or not...

Okay, I see your point. I was actually thinking of the converting of them. Didn't they uproot and/or kill any of those who didn't convert though? I'm quite sure that's what Columbus did when he found the natives.

Lastly, the indoctrination of children through threats of eternal torment...growing up in a predominately religious city and in a Catholic school with Catholic teachers that daily practiced prayer and taught religion lessons, I can guarantee you not a single child was scared or threatened by anything they said. I know I wasn't and I also know all my friends weren't affected in any way. Not to mention teachers were never aggressive with the teachings, the religious component in school was about 30 minutes of a 7 hour day - hardly enough to get a point across. You and everyone else is heavily blowing that out of proportion.

The point is religion gets them when they're young and they don't have the chance to think for themselves. They're literally brought up from birth to believe THIS is the way the world is and if you think different you're going to Hell. That's not willful. That's brain washing and indoctrination. And I'm not talking about just school. I'm talking about churches and shit. I was brought up going to church every Sunday since I could remember and being told in sunday school and congregation THIS (the Bible) is how the world is. And you're going to Hell if you don't think so. Luckily I had an older brother who broke free of that shit and by the time I was 12-13 I could honestly think for myself and he showed me other possibilities. I didn't know what an atheist was until then because I honest to God (pun intended) I couldn't believe there wasn't another lifestyle other than the one I was brought up in which was Lutheran.

But just for hypothetical purposes, when/if you have children...how will you raise them? As atheists? What happens if they decide to practice a religion when they're older? I'm actually just asking out of curiosity, I don't have a point lol.

Which ties in to my above... I will let my children grow up free of religion UNTIL they are old enough to think for themselves. Then I'll let them choose their belief system and I will love them no matter what they choose, religious or atheist. They're my children.

And I love how you skipped bigotry.

[Relapse.]

Anyone here hear about the "dream theory". It starts off talking about how like a dream actually lasts hours, but to you it seems like 5 minutes, so when you die, a chemical releases allowing you to dream for your last dying seconds and then it theoretically lasts forever or osme shit like that.

[Spyder]

cant be right

dreams supposedly do last hours, but you only remember right before you wake up

but when you die all function of the brain shuts off
no brain activity shown when your dreaming is evident

[Relapse.]

well the theory is you see those dreams, but in a longer period of time. only part i dont understand is, somewhere in the article (im still tryna find it lol) it says that the dead person cant see or think about the dreams since they're dead (and the new definition of dead is when the brain dies, not the heart). so i don't fully understand the theory.

[Emadyville]

Random but on topic, hearing those at church recite a prayer together or whatever it may be, sounds exactly like a cult. #justsayin

[Spyder]

its all just mislead info

and ya the brains the key, just give electricity to a computer and there ya go

[Emadyville]

Random but on topic, hearing those at church recite a prayer together or whatever it may be, sounds exactly like a cult. #justsayin

Lol, can't you just say that about any organized chant?

eh not really. the only other "chant" i can think of off the top would be like at sporting events, but that has momentum, humor, or fun involved. Hearing people recite a prayer or whatever in church sounds like a cult because it's so mono toned, unenthusiastic and drawn out. Again, just sayin

[Eedee]

Random but on topic, hearing those at church recite a prayer together or whatever it may be, sounds exactly like a cult. #justsayin

Lol, can't you just say that about any organized chant?

eh not really. the only other "chant" i can think of off the top would be like at sporting events, but that has momentum, humor, or fun involved. Hearing people recite a prayer or whatever in church sounds like a cult because it's so mono toned, unenthusiastic and drawn out. Again, just sayin

Prayer really pisses me off. They spend 90% of it giving some invisible dude props for being so awesome then it's like "oh shit, yeah. Heal my dad's cancer. Even though you gave it to him, that would be fucking awesome if you healed it. Aaaaaaaaaand amen"... it's fucking ridiculous. Then again, religious people never seem to get the concept "If you can thank him, you can blame him". God does everything, so if he gave your dad cancer, he works in mysterious ways! No, he's an asshole!

[Emadyville]

^ i actually never looked at it that way, even tho i dont believe in god, which i guess would make sense i never looked at it that way haha

[Eedee]

^ i actually never looked at it that way, even tho i dont believe in god, which i guess would make sense i never looked at it that way haha

Don't get me started lol

[Emadyville]

^ i actually never looked at it that way, even tho i dont believe in god, which i guess would make sense i never looked at it that way haha

Don't get me started lol

on what?