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Re: Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

Postby 12characters » Aug 15th, '12, 12:31

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12characters wrote:I think Nas is more versatile at what I call the rapping, or the way he uses his voice. Tone wise? Ehh they're about the same. Flow wise? I think Nas could just do more, nahmean? I don't see where you're coming from when you say he's more versatile unless we're talking catalogs.

Also, I don't think you give ***** enough credit for sounding different. It's one of my favorite albums by him (maybe it ain't for err'body doe) but it really sounds different. Plus, Stillmatic's beat selection was pretty innovative compared to most of his albums.


Naw man, Jay-Z is more versatile at everything he does, he rapped about everything without contradicting himself in his raps once, he experimented with all types of beats. He doesn't do the same flow twice, he's always experimenting, once it was fast-rapping, then it was regular 90's rapping, then it's half a bar half a bar, imo his illest flows were in American Gangster, he always switches up. But yeah, I guess I'm pretty much talking catalogs. What Nas can be more versatile about is story-telling, even though Hov has a few gems (99 Problems 2nd verse, Meet the Parents), Nas is arguably one of the best story-tellers of all time.

And tbh, ***** is my 3rd or 4th favorite Nas album, I'd rank em 1)HHID 2)Illmatic 3)God's Son or *****. It has a lot of amazing songs, Fried Chicken, and Be a ***** Too even if it didn't make the cut.


I don't get that though. To me, it sounds like the same flow every time (generalizing of course), and I never heard Jigga fast rap all that well either tbh. Especially since other GOATS can like Nas, Budden (fire), Biggie (Notorious Thugz :flutter: ), and Em (Not as good but > Hov imo) to name a few.
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Re: Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

Postby Trimss » Aug 15th, '12, 12:34

My favorite Jay song is My 1st Song. His flow is great on it.

Also, 12characters Notorious Thugz :flutter: omg that song > *
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Re: Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

Postby 12characters » Aug 15th, '12, 13:02

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12characters wrote:I don't get that though. To me, it sounds like the same flow every time (generalizing of course), and I never heard Jigga fast rap all that well either tbh. Especially since other GOATS can like Nas, Budden (fire), Biggie (Notorious Thugz :flutter: ), and Em (Not as good but > Hov imo) to name a few.


From the same album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjvCBXhxILI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8

From another album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DStkm9wo2qE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2mBK9LsKf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaspwdJa-14

From another album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8h0d00gEh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQIKmtX5k8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pc3kD2iV8w

Flows are real different there bruh.

Here's some fast raps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1thvEtGM5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8e4AVybkOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZvRU0sXLzI

Most of Jay's fast raps were before Reasonable Doubt though.


:y: I see what you mean. BP3 doesn't sound all that different though :unsure: . Can he still do continuous flow like on the Black Album?

Not bad fast raps doe.
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Re: Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

Postby 12characters » Aug 15th, '12, 13:18

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12characters wrote: :y: I see what you mean. BP3 doesn't sound all that different though :unsure: . Can he still do continuous flow like on the Black Album?

Not bad fast raps doe.


Yeah, he can, he did one on New Day and Thank You and some features, but it seems like since 2010 he's been starting to like to use that BP3 flow. :unsure: It's still mad dope though, he can do it insanely.

Look at Jay's flow here, it's pretty crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QftcJtvLr8g .. song is from Notorious soundtrack (opening lines of 2nd verse = GOAT opening to a verse, omg).

Here too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5bnC8-s7Uw but I don't know when was this written cause he freestyled that verse a lot. Song was officially released in 2010 though.


Jackie Robinson lol :worship: . Yeah man, he's dope with them awkward flows but imo they're not always intune with the beat. :n:
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Re: Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

Postby 12characters » Aug 15th, '12, 13:33

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12characters wrote:Jackie Robinson lol :worship: . Yeah man, he's dope with them awkward flows but imo they're not always intune with the beat. :n:


That's what he does, nobody else can create an "awkward" flow and make it sound crazy dope.

I don't know how, but he made this one in touch with every snare, it's insanely on-beat



Unbelievable shit tbh.


Damn J. Cole was embarrassing on that one tbh.
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Re: Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

Postby EminemBase » Aug 15th, '12, 13:59

All Nas does is rap. He's a lyricist, so he should write EVERYTHING.

I'm not discrediting Nas, but... to me, any lyricist that can even have anybody write any of their words for them, irrespective of whether it's under their 'direction' is less of a lyricist.

I just find it pretty lame. If you're a writer: WRITE.

Even though it may have just been contributions or, alterations, or, whatever... so what, it's lame. Why would you even want to have somebody else's pen do your work, it's... ehh.
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Re: Stic.Man & Jay Electronica ghostwrote for Nas

Postby I'mShady » Aug 16th, '12, 07:37

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