Which Shady members had a good career run?

[Blu]

Trying to find out how "successful" Shady Records has been in the last decade.

The only successful act that comes to mind is 50 Cent. Is there anyone else?

[Trimss]

Eminem.

[Never_Enough]

Other than Eminem?
Of course Fifty. D12 and Obie have been popular when Em was at the peak of his popularity but now nobody knows about them.
Here if you ask someone who they are they watch you like you're an alien, but everybody knows who 50 Cent is.

[tadpole25]

None of them, aside from 50 Cent. And now that 50 Cent is no longer getting promotion from a major record company, nobody has really been listening to his music for the past few years.

Yelawolf had his own base of fans before Shady 2.0, so Shady didn't give him that much of a bump.

Shady Records is solid proof that even if you have the most famous rapper of all time endorse you, there is still no guarentee you will be popular. It's record company promotion that matters more, which Eminem has and his signed artists do not,.

[Mathers]

Only Em and 50.

[Man1x]

I think it's just Eminem, 50, and Mr. Porter.

Mr. Porter isn't that successful

[Blu]

Shady Records need to step up their game, sad seeing all these acts getting washed down the drain.

[PAINKILLƎR]

Shady Records need to step up their game, sad seeing all these acts getting washed down the drain.

Agreed.

Even if I enjoy their music, I'd like to see them become bigger.

But I figure...as long as Em is still up and running as an emcee, any artist he signs will always be in the shadows.

Sad, but true

[Man1x]

That Eminem being larger than anyone he signs excuse his tired. He just needs to back an artists and show interest while using his weight to get them promotion. He just needs to create hype instead of letting dust settle. The artist would of course need mainstream appeal in one way or another, Eminem is bad at picking the right type of artist. It's something he didn't learn from Dr. Dre who is the biggest king maker in the game.

He honestly got lucky with 50 Cent in my honest opinion. That was his only signee that would obviously translate into sales, but I still think Yelawolf has that potential as well. They just market him wrong, or not at all. Slaughterhouse is reaching it's mainstream potential already. Their solo careers will probably be better than their group career, they just need to capitalize on it.

Also, D12 was hardly marketable, it did numbers due to Eminem's presence in the group. Obie Trice had the lyrics and production but lacked the mic presence and personality. Then you got Bobby Creekwater, Stat Quo, and Cashis - hopefully whoever's idea it was to sign them got fired.

[Kill You]

Shady Records need to step up their game, sad seeing all these acts getting washed down the drain.

Agreed.

Even if I enjoy their music, I'd like to see them become bigger.

But I figure...as long as Em is still up and running as an emcee, any artist he signs will always be in the shadows.

Yup, it sucks for them. Em has good intentions but signing anyone will only have him overshadow them. Em should have signed someone that can be as popular as Drake and have the rest of his acts to be good/raw artists...that's mostly why YM's so popular.

To answer the question, just Em and 50. Guess you could say D12 as well even though that's due very largely to Eminem.

[cooper121]

Shady Records need to step up their game, sad seeing all these acts getting washed down the drain.

Agreed.

Even if I enjoy their music, I'd like to see them become bigger.

But I figure...as long as Em is still up and running as an emcee, any artist he signs will always be in the shadows.

Yup, it sucks for them. Em has good intentions but signing anyone will only have him overshadow them. Em should have signed someone that can be as popular as Drake and have the rest of his acts to be good/raw artists...that's mostly why YM's so popular.

To answer the question, just Em and 50. Guess you could say D12 as well even though that's due very largely to Eminem.

I rather em sign good mc's that never make it big but do well enough and stay on label than wack mc's like drake that sell 700,000 first week like him.

[Kill You]

^ Looking at this from a business point of view...obviously I really don't care if he signed anyone like Drake or not. Just thinking merely about the label.

[Man1x]

That Eminem being larger than anyone he signs excuse his tired. He just needs to back an artists and show interest while using his weight to get them promotion. He just needs to create hype instead of letting dust settle. The artist would of course need mainstream appeal in one way or another, Eminem is bad at picking the right type of artist. It's something he didn't learn from Dr. Dre who is the biggest king maker in the game.

He honestly got lucky with 50 Cent in my honest opinion. That was his only signee that would obviously translate into sales, but I still think Yelawolf has that potential as well. They just market him wrong, or not at all. Slaughterhouse is reaching it's mainstream potential already. Their solo careers will probably be better than their group career, they just need to capitalize on it.

Also, D12 was hardly marketable, it did numbers due to Eminem's presence in the group. Obie Trice had the lyrics and production but lacked the mic presence and personality. Then you got Bobby Creekwater, Stat Quo, and Cashis - hopefully whoever's idea it was to sign them got fired.

As lame of an excuse it may be, it still holds a lot of truth.

Em himself said he doesn't really pay attention to whatever is happening in the business aspect of the label because he is unfamiliar to the world of business. But it's really not a good excuse, I admit - whoever runs the marketing scheme at Shady Records obviously thinks Em's name alone will carry these artists, which obviously hasn't worked.

I disagree when you say "D12 was hardly marketable" though, because f that were the case...they wouldn't have been successful, with or without Eminem. They still had to produce their verses and they still had to maintain that group cohesiveness to at least SOUND enjoyable to the ear. Yes, the numbers were DEFINITELY a result of Eminem's presence, but they still were good as a group and the songs without him are just as dope.

I agree with the rest, I suppose.

I'm not saying D12 didn't sound cohesive or enjoyable to the ear. Their content wouldn't have been easy to market or even marketable if it weren't for Eminem. That's my point, if Eminem wasn't in that group no one, then and now, that's a mainstream listener would want to listen to Bizarre rapping his grandma or D12's dark humor. They just wouldn't have sold if it weren't for Eminem.

[Blu]

I rather em sign good mc's that never make it big but do well enough and stay on label than wack mc's like drake that sell 700,000 first week like him.

But, why? You'd let Shady Records stay with the shitty reputation it has? I know the label tries to be the home for the illest lyricists or whatever but they need to open their venue; signing an artist like Drake wouldn't be a bad move. Especially if he sells 700K his first week? That's money for Shady right there... Not to mention people would actually start giving the label the respect they deserve.

[Man1x]

I'm not saying D12 didn't sound cohesive or enjoyable to the ear. Their content wouldn't have been easy to market or even marketable if it weren't for Eminem. That's my point, if Eminem wasn't in that group no one, then and now, that's a mainstream listener would want to listen to Bizarre rapping his grandma or D12's dark humor. They just wouldn't have sold if it weren't for Eminem.

How do you justify that though? You said they wouldn't have been marketable, since obviously you admit that they wouldn't have sounded less enjoyable to the ear, I'm going to assume you're referring to content? Which still wouldn't make sense to me because...with Em, they're still rapping about the same things alongside Slim Shady - D12 practically created Slim Shady.

Eminem got famous for his Slim Shady persona, who is to say they wouldn't eventually caught attention? I said this in another thread like...five minutes ago lmao, they may not have been the mainstream success they were without Em but I think they would've found a way to get attention.

Yeah, I was talking about content. Sorry if I let that out, it's late. I also understand the persona of Slim Shady came about from D12 and it was what got Eminem famous, but Eminem had a mic presence that isn't present in the other D12 members. He had the charisma to get famous, he had the skill, and ability to be an attention magnet without trying. Honestly, D12 may or may not have got attention, but it's most likely they wouldn't have. There were already groups with their content, and they'd be another group just fighting for a piece of the action. I believe in my statements because look at D12 now. Bizarre is the second most successful and his career is dirt. Most people only downloaded their last mixtape for one Eminem feature and they have broken up. Anyway, Slim Shady developed into a personality that completely eclipsed D12.

From my point of view, if Eminem wants an artist to be successful he should promote Yelawolf if we are talking about what he currently has. Yelawolf could appeal to skateboarders, rebels, and fans of the alternative, rock, reggae, and obviously hip-hop/rap genres. If he wanted to sign anybody new, I'd suggest Schoolboy Q. He is a nice mix of 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Nas, and the new West Coast sound. He also is marketable, can rock clubs, and he'd fit the Shady 2.0 concept nicely. He's lyrical and has darker content with no plans of selling out soon. He'd fit perfectly to be honest, and he's already on Interscope.