Is the art of rap freestyle a sign of what's to come?

[Hopsinshadie]

but there's no more way to be surprised. Eminem has covered everything

Yes there is. He could make an album full of tracks like Stan, The Reunion, As The World Turns, etc. Tons of story telling. There's ENDLESS possibilities.

Or he could make more songs in 3rd person like Almost Famous reflecting on his career.

but isn't that just repeating what he's done?

[EminemBase]

I dunno... I like the continued focused on rhyme and intensity though.

The style he raps that freestyle in reminds me of "Underground" though, which is a bit of a step backwards. Sounds like he's kind of desperately scrambling to offend, lots of swearing etc.

Not really, it was just a freestyle lol. Usually they're about rhyming as best as you can and saying funny things. At least, those are the kinds of freestyles I like.

I wouldn't put much weight into something from over a year old that wasn't even a song.

Like how the Tim Westwood freestyles didn't foreshadow anything.

Yeah but I like those freestyles too, I love that shit. But on this one he sounded like he did on "Underground" a little, where nothing really resonated, just kind of, scrabbling.

His 09 Westwood is incredible.

[EminemBase]

but there's no more way to be surprised. Eminem has covered everything

Covered? he's not a reporter. This is my problem with people who just... there's only so much he or anybody can do if you're just doing a literal, lyrical showcasing of your life: yes.

However, why does everybody think any material he writes has to be about him, or about his career... it's just such a limited mindset. Since when was self-obsession a must.

There's, infinite, possibilities. You don't always have to rap about something for one thing, as in telling a story or saying how you feel; there's so many ways to express yourself and so so many things he could use his talents for. Thinking like that is just so, stifling, which is why he keeps boxing himself in to a corner every time he runs out of 'new life' now. It doesn't have to be that.

[UofLCard]

but there's no more way to be surprised. Eminem has covered everything

I'm sure people have said that for a while now, but he continues to released records with different material.

[Hopsinshadie]

I think Eminem should definitely rap with an attitude and throw in some epic beats. He should sound like:

The Warning
The Art of Rap Freestye
Not Afraid
My Darling
Beautiful

[Elision]

That was recorded in early 2011.

Is this confirmed?

[Elision]

word

[Sam.]

I think Eminem should definitely rap with an attitude and throw in some epic beats. He should sound like:

The Warning
The Art of Rap Freestye
Not Afraid
My Darling
Beautiful

Can someone ban this stupid bitch?

Nope. He didn't say the word "irrelevant".

[Hopsinshadie]

but there's no more way to be surprised. Eminem has covered everything

Covered? he's not a reporter. This is my problem with people who just... there's only so much he or anybody can do if you're just doing a literal, lyrical showcasing of your life: yes.

However, why does everybody think any material he writes has to be about him, or about his career... it's just such a limited mindset. Since when was self-obsession a must.

There's, infinite, possibilities. You don't always have to rap about something for one thing, as in telling a story or saying how you feel; there's so many ways to express yourself and so so many things he could use his talents for. Thinking like that is just so, stifling, which is why he keeps boxing himself in to a corner every time he runs out of 'new life' now. It doesn't have to be that.

Eminembase, what should he rap about then if you are so confident in what you are saying?

Eminembase, when Eminem first came out many of us really believed that he wanted to Kill Kim, we really believed he had brain damage, he was the real slim shady, and that he was a criminal.

But what about now? We wouldn't believe it anymore because he showed us his human side too much. That's why in 3 am, we knew Em was just rapping to rap. We didn't really think he wanted to kill.

[EminemBase]

but there's no more way to be surprised. Eminem has covered everything

Covered? he's not a reporter. This is my problem with people who just... there's only so much he or anybody can do if you're just doing a literal, lyrical showcasing of your life: yes.

However, why does everybody think any material he writes has to be about him, or about his career... it's just such a limited mindset. Since when was self-obsession a must.

There's, infinite, possibilities. You don't always have to rap about something for one thing, as in telling a story or saying how you feel; there's so many ways to express yourself and so so many things he could use his talents for. Thinking like that is just so, stifling, which is why he keeps boxing himself in to a corner every time he runs out of 'new life' now. It doesn't have to be that.

Eminembase, what should he rap about then if you are so confident in what you are saying?

Eminembase, when Eminem first came out many of us really believed that he wanted to Kill Kim, we really believed he had brain damage, he was the real slim shady, and that he was a criminal.

But what about now? We wouldn't believe it anymore because he showed us his human side too much. That's why in 3 am, we knew Em was just rapping to rap. We didn't really think he wanted to kill.

I shouldn't be able to predict it, you keep saying 'about' like a song just has to be like a story or a topic, there's so many ways to present art that aren't that straightforward.

You could make a song that 'encapsulates' a mood such as anger, you could make a song that tries to just capture the essence of a certain thought, that tries to explore something... there's no rules. You keep talking as if he has to just write about his life or a very specific subject.

And, I didn't believe he wanted to kill Kim, I didn't believe he was a criminal... if you did, then you never really got Em to begin with. Those songs are artistic expressions, more in the vein of what I think he should be doing again, not everything has to be so realistic and committed.

I don't really believe Robert De Niro is a racist sociopath when I watch Taxi Driver either; I think his performance is fantastic though and I get lost in the movie. Similarly, I don't really believe "Kim" is a real account of Em murdering or even seriously wanting to murder his wife... it's just an exaggerated expression that encapsulates his rage and that fantasy. And it's thrilling.

"3am" is thrilling. Eminem is thrilling when he's creative, not when he's being stern serious and just relaying his life. Not to me anyway, anybody can do that. Not anybody can create "Kim". The fact it's about his ex-wife isn't the interesting part, it's the way he created it, it could be about somebody totally fictional, it doesn't matter. People are obsessed with making art real.

If you want reality, watch a documentary. I want creativity.

[RoleModel'Est96]

Eminembase, what should he rap about then if you are so confident in what you are saying?

Eminembase, when Eminem first came out many of us really believed that he wanted to Kill Kim, we really believed he had brain damage, he was the real slim shady, and that he was a criminal.

But what about now? We wouldn't believe it anymore because he showed us his human side too much. That's why in 3 am, we knew Em was just rapping to rap. We didn't really think he wanted to kill.

Don't mean to offend you- but it was fans like you that caused Eminem to get so much crap from critics earlier on his career. Remember around 99/2000- when everyone was like "don't you think its dangerous to make music with such content and lyrics".

when Eminem first came out many of us really believed that he wanted to Kill Kim, we really believed he had brain damage, he was the real slim shady, and that he was a criminal.

^^ Really!! Em would usually say stuff along the lines of " When I say [Opened a hole, and my whole brain fell out of my skull] the fans understand that its fiction. Who's the dumb one, the one who think its true (i.e: the critics) or the fans ( who are able to differentiate between reality and entertainment)" And he would always say that people who listen to music and are compelled to do the actions done in the song (like kill people) are stupid and they were crazy to begin with (not to offend you- I just remember him saying this). Its just entertainment!


Not gonna lie, your comment made my day though.

[RoleModel'Est96]

The new pic in your sig made my day tbh.

Shady's facial expressions, ftw

[Hopsinshadie]

Here comes the Weekend was really nice. If he could rap like he did here and in the art of rap, then his next album is gonna be swell.