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"Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby EminemBase » Sep 9th, '12, 22:28

Solace wrote:
Menzo wrote:
Solace wrote:bigray is angry Kanye West and Canibus are better than his favourite rappers.


What if his favourite rapper happens to be:

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That'd be a shame because he'd still get murked by

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Swiftabus West.


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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby ShadysDisciple » Sep 9th, '12, 23:41

I don't like Canibus at all really, I truly can't stand him, but even I can't deny the awesomeness of Rip The Jacker.
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby Noctoural88 » Sep 10th, '12, 00:35

I really appreciate the positive responses, this is more open minded than most hip-hop forums.
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby Solace » Sep 10th, '12, 00:36

Don't worry brah, we ain't pink like lemonade.
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby Mr.DGAF » Sep 10th, '12, 03:13

I respect Bis, I don't really listen to him too much and admittedly was directed towards him from the Eminem beef. But the dude's got skill and a lot of old school hip hop heads still give the dude credit even though he has a tendency to make himself look like an ass.

However, your first "fact" doesn't really bolster your arguement for him not being wack. Pushing a large number of albums doesn't reflect skill.
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby Noctoural88 » Sep 10th, '12, 04:18

I agree Mr. DGAF, I was sort of just rattling off facts to familiarize the presumably ignorant reader, that was there mainly to give the reader a sense of the work he's put in over the course of his career. Thanks for reading.
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby Solace » Sep 10th, '12, 04:29

bigray wrote:
Solace wrote:bigray is angry Kanye West and Canibus are better than his favourite rappers.


I actually like Can I bitch . And no competition,

Can I Bitch >>>>>>> Kanye

U mad now?

Oh lol, didn't notice you edited it.

I am furious.

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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby CrashBand » Sep 10th, '12, 08:25

I agree with the OP in terms of most people consider Canabis wack without actually hearing his music.
Hell, I may even be in that category.

I think you missed a couple of reasons why people hate him / think he's wack.
He comes off as a fuking idiot. The rap battle just capped it off.

And he's as pretentious as they come. Where he further illustrates his idiocy.
I'm not tryin to be rude, but I sincerely wanna fuck the taste out of your mouth
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby CrashBand » Sep 11th, '12, 06:30

Amadeo wrote:
Noctoural88 wrote:- He invented what’s known as the “infinite” rhyme scheme, or, more specifically, a method in which he writes several mirroring verses that are infinitely mixable. More on that some other time.

What does this mean?

Was going to ask this as well.
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby Noctoural88 » Sep 13th, '12, 04:10

I want to make an article explaining that concept in more depth, I’ll make sure to post it. But basically, he writes two or more verses (or “layers” as he calls them) that have the same rhyme scheme/flow/concept so that if you were to play them at the same time, mute one and play the other, you could switch them (mute the playing layer and play the muted layer) and the verse would still rhyme and be coherent. His song “poet laureate infinity” was the first example of that. It was 1000 bars, with 5 mirroring layers of 200 bars each. There are thousands of different mixes made off of that alone. The main idea is to write identical rhyme schemes and make sure the timing is perfect and the content in the layers is more or less interchangeable at those particular points in time. He hasn't revealed his process yet, and I doubt he will until Rip The Jacker II: Infinity is out.
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby CrashBand » Sep 13th, '12, 08:32

Oh, okay, I had never heard of that before.

The problem with Canibus is his interchangeable rhyme schemes will be
"......Medium
....Masculine
...Emporium
......Stadium"
etc.

as opposed to trying to write an actual 'infinite' rhyme verse.
For example using the same scheme (and content?) as Renegade.

"....music to steer it
....views and his merits
.....huge interference

.....stupid appearance"
etc.

Heres an example of what I think you're talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtRbvTgz-JA#t=38s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfdGFP8SsCo
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby EminemInsider » Sep 13th, '12, 08:53

Noctoural88 wrote:I want to make an article explaining that concept in more depth, I’ll make sure to post it. But basically, he writes two or more verses (or “layers” as he calls them) that have the same rhyme scheme/flow/concept so that if you were to play them at the same time, mute one and play the other, you could switch them (mute the playing layer and play the muted layer) and the verse would still rhyme and be coherent. His song “poet laureate infinity” was the first example of that. It was 1000 bars, with 5 mirroring layers of 200 bars each. There are thousands of different mixes made off of that alone. The main idea is to write identical rhyme schemes and make sure the timing is perfect and the content in the layers is more or less interchangeable at those particular points in time. He hasn't revealed his process yet, and I doubt he will until Rip The Jacker II: Infinity is out.


A cat sat on a hat
I stood on a mat and grabbed both of the gats
Doing this shit is easy when you rhyme shitty like Canibus
I really think this man is shit, he probably doesn't even stand to piss
Just use random rhyme schemes about nothing in particular
Which is easy for him, he gets to misuse all the biggest words
And then at the end of some long, nonsensical verse, he heads to the chorus
And once that's over, he begins again to bore us

Stay on this faggoty track
Now switch over it'll still rhyme "hat" with something wack
Just a lame attempt at a shit rapper trying to attract some kids
Who are too stupid to understand that this doesn't make someone talented
Just a waste of time which you'd realize if you'd sit and learn
Making songs worth listening to is none of his concern
And his rhymes aren't even clever, or detailed, his brain is porous
And his lyrics never make sense, so it allows for "creative" choices

What do you mean "choices" doesn't rhyme with "porous," you asshat little brat?
I'm Canibus, I can completely alter pronunciation, fag
And reuse the same words, I'll crack your ribs and come and grab your tits
And bite a Justice freestyle, time to finish this up with pure randomness
I hate you guys, I feel I've got to write a different verse
Playin in fog while I'm dissing these dudes, I love to rip and burn
You'll find my genius letters, like leaf trails, in a rainy forest
In hysterics send me my check, I need a new house for my baby's toys, bitch

I watched a battle with The Saurus, then I swallowed anthrax through the tap
Ate radishes, then before sleep I watched Tut against Illmac
I refuse to take turns, I'll snatch your kids and come back for their crib
My life is just so free and vile, I'm not sent from above, feel the anvil hit
I'm great at life, with zeal I'm not the type to live for work
Prayin in songs or just whistling some tunes, my utterance is heard
It binds us freaks together, just read braille books placed in storage
Then you'll perish, sentenced to death, I'm bleeding you out for making noises

Multiply that by about 25, only without nearly as many rhymes as I wrote, and much more nonsensical pseudo-intellectual gibberish, and you have Poet Laureate Infinity.
Canning: What will it say on your tombstone?
Charlie Sheen: Something dot com.

Canibus & Eminem Converse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWB62t2_wJE
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Re: "Canibus Is Wack?" An Article I Wrote

Postby mattthegod » Nov 11th, '12, 13:48

This article was an extremely good read. I highly agree with this as I think Canibus is an amazing lyricist even if he has released a lot of bullshit and done stuff where I'm just like ''..I'm done''. That being said I do prefer Eminem much more and even though Canibitch wasn't anything special it still had a lot of venomous lines. That being said I love both artists a lot but I do prefer Eminem. Canibus does however bore me at times maybe because it ends up to the point where I feel like hes just babbling to sound dope. I also think that even though Rip The Jacker is a classic it's still not as good as the 1st 3 Eminem albums. It does come close to The Eminem Show and Mic Club comes close too as far as just lyrics go (don't kill me guys this is just my opinion). Props for the great read nocturnal :).
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