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Food & Liquor vs Recovery

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Food & Liquor or Recovery?

Food & Liquor
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Recovery
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Coast2Coast » Sep 18th, '12, 14:44

Trimss wrote:I agree F&l doesn't have substance and lupe's a good song writter but eminem is the best he has the emotions locked on and on recovery hes amazing where as lupe fiasco was just a beginner on food & liquor i mean hes ok but hes not near ems level but hes better than that faggot gay z so yeah lupe is ok but no one in rap can touch eminem



That's the main factor that on Recovery on songs like Not Afraid, Going Through Changes, Talkin 2 Myself, You're Never Ever, Spacebound Eminem made songs people actually relate to the emotion is un matched no other rapper has been as emotionally driven and as passionate as Eminem has those are his finest atrributes about how emotional he makes his music and writes and how so many relate. That's why Recovery is better as well as Eminem's talent for Harmonizing on there
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby King Lance » Sep 18th, '12, 14:45

CrashBand wrote:
Trimss wrote:I agree F&l doesn't have substance and lupe's a good song writter but eminem is the best he has the emotions locked on and on recovery hes amazing where as lupe fiasco was just a beginner on food & liquor i mean hes ok but hes not near ems level but hes better than that faggot gay z so yeah lupe is ok but no one in rap can touch eminem

It must be so tiresome for that troll to write two or three of these a day.

Far too much time on his hands and far too little comedic value.


half of that troll seemed legit and true :laughing:
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Accor » Sep 18th, '12, 14:48

name wrote:F&L is better than every Eminem album. *shrug


I actually agree. TES is probably in my top 15-10, but F&L has my number one spot at the moment.

Coast2Coast wrote:I don't think Lupe could ever make an album anywhere near as classic and legendary as The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show these are some of the greatest albums ever. The Eminem Show is the greatest hip hop album ever so no rap artist has an album as great as that to be fair. Lupe doesn't have an album anywhere near as classic as those. Recovery is better than Food & Liquor imo.


First of all, that's your opinion. I personally think TES and MMLP are both classics (although MMLP is ageing horribly) but neither are even in my top 5. F&L is.

I highly doubt you've even listened to F&L though. What's your favourite song on it? What stops it from being a classic? What's bad about the lyrics? What's the flaw in Hurt Me Soul?

Coast2Coast wrote:Recovery is just a great album people aren't gonna pretend not to like an album they think is great just cos some people who don't feel the same about it just so they don't get called stans. Aside from the fans and it's success of selling 5 million just in the U.S. so far, the album also has been rated highly by critics let's not forget it did win a grammy. It's better as far as song writting than Lupes album that's the best aspect of Recovery it's writting and lyrics and including how well the hooks were written by Eminem too. Now even the biggest Eminem fans will admit Food & Liquer is better than Encore and Relapse but Recovery is a succesful album most fans and critics agree that it is great


F&L was much more critically acclaimed that Recovery, by the way. It actually received a higher Metacritic score than any of Eminem's albums. Using your logic, that makes it better than any Eminem albums, right?

Also, Lil Wayne sells a shit ton. Does that mean he's better than Nas?


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atm, I pretty hate eminem, but food & liquor ... I prefer listening to justin bieber imo
wherever I go, recovery wins so I don't understand why he wants to say that we are blind stans :shifty:
(had to listen to a lupe fiasco album for the first time in my life, it was a torture)


Elaborate? What was bad about it..?
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Coast2Coast » Sep 18th, '12, 14:51

Lance5 wrote:
CrashBand wrote:
Trimss wrote:I agree F&l doesn't have substance and lupe's a good song writter but eminem is the best he has the emotions locked on and on recovery hes amazing where as lupe fiasco was just a beginner on food & liquor i mean hes ok but hes not near ems level but hes better than that faggot gay z so yeah lupe is ok but no one in rap can touch eminem

It must be so tiresome for that troll to write two or three of these a day.

Far too much time on his hands and far too little comedic value.


half of that troll seemed legit and true :laughing:



The fact is sales aside Recovery has won a grammy award and other awards it has gotten great reviews by magazines. People only call others troll cos they can't debate all he did was simply explain why in his opinion Recovery is better and the thing is his explination is probably similar to why others like Recovery so much too. People like it cos of the emotion and lyrics and hooks but will say the production was not great
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Accor » Sep 18th, '12, 14:52

Coast2Coast wrote:
The fact is sales aside Recovery has won a grammy award and other awards it has gotten great reviews by magazines. People only call others troll cos they can't debate all he did was simply explain why in his opinion Recovery is better and the thing is his explination is probably similar to why others like Recovery so much too. People like it cos of the emotion and lyrics and hooks but will say the production was not great


Relapse won the Grammy award for best rap album too and you hate that album. Encore was nominated and that's one of the worst pieces of shit ever released. Again, F&L was MUCH better received than Recovery.
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Coast2Coast » Sep 18th, '12, 14:58

Accor wrote:
Coast2Coast wrote:
The fact is sales aside Recovery has won a grammy award and other awards it has gotten great reviews by magazines. People only call others troll cos they can't debate all he did was simply explain why in his opinion Recovery is better and the thing is his explination is probably similar to why others like Recovery so much too. People like it cos of the emotion and lyrics and hooks but will say the production was not great


Relapse won the Grammy award for best rap album too and you hate that album. Encore was nominated and that's one of the worst pieces of shit ever released. Again, F&L was MUCH better received than Recovery.



Don't get me wrong i'm not a Lupe fan if i liked his albums or music i would be but just never could get into him but i still can admit Food & Liquer is better than Relapse even most Eminem fans agree on this i think cos of it's content and no replay value due to it's subject matter and theme so Lupes album better than Relapse
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Accor » Sep 18th, '12, 15:00

Coast2Coast wrote:

Don't get me wrong i'm not a Lupe fan if i liked his albums or music i would be but just never could get into him but i still can admit Food & Liquer is better than Relapse even most Eminem fans agree on this i think cos of it's content and no replay value due to it's subject matter and theme so Lupes album better than Relapse


What's your favourite song on F&L?
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Coast2Coast » Sep 18th, '12, 15:02

Accor wrote:
Coast2Coast wrote:

Don't get me wrong i'm not a Lupe fan if i liked his albums or music i would be but just never could get into him but i still can admit Food & Liquer is better than Relapse even most Eminem fans agree on this i think cos of it's content and no replay value due to it's subject matter and theme so Lupes album better than Relapse


What's your favourite song on F&L?



Daydreaming but alot of that is due to Jill Scotts Hook
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Accor » Sep 18th, '12, 15:13

Coast2Coast wrote:
Accor wrote:
Coast2Coast wrote:

Don't get me wrong i'm not a Lupe fan if i liked his albums or music i would be but just never could get into him but i still can admit Food & Liquer is better than Relapse even most Eminem fans agree on this i think cos of it's content and no replay value due to it's subject matter and theme so Lupes album better than Relapse


What's your favourite song on F&L?



Daydreaming but alot of that is due to Jill Scotts Hook


Oh? So it's not mostly because of him using a robot to metaphorically speak about what's plaguing poor neighbourhoods/the state of hip-hop/his place in it? And how television/rap video's hurt children in the long run when they're exposed to too much of it? It's just because of the hook? OK.

I would have expected it to be Hurt Me Soul since you talk about relating to people with rough upbringings and that song basically depicts the lives of poor children in the first verse. Your opinion though :y:
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Coast2Coast » Sep 18th, '12, 15:39

Well i personally thought the hook by Jill Scott was the best part of the song i think Lupe was good but the issue i had with him is i always found him boring he talks about real things but does it in a boring way that don't appeal to me i can't feel his music or relate i tend to find it boring and dull. The reason i can relate to Eminem when he raps about real life issues is cos of the way he expresses it and how i can feel the emotion he does it but makes it sound interesting, catchy and entertaining at the same time he got that balance for me of rapping about real life but doing it in a catchy way
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Accor » Sep 18th, '12, 19:50

Menzo wrote:I'll be 100% honest.

I really enjoyed Food & Liquor. It was great album, you can NOT deny that. But I just...don't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed Recovery and it's probably cuz I'm a diehard Em fan even though I haven't even listened to the album is a while tbh.

I found myself listening to Lasers more than F&L even though musically its predecessor absolutely demolishes it.


Understandable. And yeah F&L/The Cool>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lasers


RiseFromTheAshez wrote:Only good songs on F&L are the instrumental and the cool rest are whack as shit


I... Uh... Not sure if..
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Slim Fiasco » Sep 18th, '12, 20:11

Food & Liquor is Eminem's favorite album motherfuckers. When Em makes an attempt at wordplay he calls Lupe to apologize in advance for disrespecting the man's talents. Lupe's Lu Myself is the reason why Marshall ended up in the hospital, and he still doesn't have the guts to listen to Failure. His mind can take so much, don't push it. With that being said, Recovery sucks.
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Trimss » Sep 18th, '12, 20:48

Slim Fiasco wrote:Food & Liquor is Eminem's favorite album motherfuckers. When Em makes an attempt at wordplay he calls Lupe to apologize in advance for disrespecting the man's talents. Lupe's Lu Myself is the reason why Marshall ended up in the hospital, and he still doesn't have the guts to listen to Failure. His mind can take so much, don't push it. With that being said, Recovery sucks.


Recovery doesn't suck. It's not classic but it doesn't suck in my opinion, Carter IV sucks, 2Chainz's album sucks, but Recovery is an okay album.

Lu Myself was dope as fuck, really he came close to Em. but no one could make a better version of LY.
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby OMEGA » Sep 18th, '12, 21:36

Next let's compare Get Rich or Die Tryin' with Stankonia.
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Re: Food & Liquor vs Recovery

Postby Accor » Sep 18th, '12, 21:50

OMEGA wrote:Next let's compare Get Rich or Die Tryin' with Stankonia.


:'( GROTD would probably win
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