If you're atheist..

[classthe_king]

Not believing in a personal God, and not believing in a creator are not the same thing. Don't try that fallacy shit with me, haha.

Alright, I'll just find statistics to back me up

As reported by Newsweek: "By one count there are some 700 scientists with respectable academic credentials (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) who give credence to creation-science, the general theory that complex life forms did not evolve but appeared 'abruptly'."Martz & McDaniel 1987, p. 23

That means 99.965% of scientists believe in evolution...and that was in 1987 when we didn't even have as much info as we do now.

Dr. Brain Alters is an expert on the evolution-creationism controversy and he stated, "Overall, the nation has a big problem. Approximately half of the U.S. population thinks evolution does (or did) not occur. While 99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution, 40 to 50 percent of college students do not accept evolution and believe it to be 'just' a theory."

http://nihrecord.od.nih.gov/newsletters/2006/07_28_2006/story03.htm


If we're including all scientists, not just biologists: Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time

http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-5-evolution-climate-change-and-other-issues/



What's your excuse now?

[CrashBand]

it's not plausible for me to believe in made up statistics either. Yet you keep posting them (99%). I guess we're at crossroad here. Condescension gets you nowhere in this topic.

As I said, I'm not converting anyone. I couldn't care less about what you believe.

Block, do you seriously no think an overwhelming majority of the scientific community doesn't believe in evolution.

If so, you are clutching at straws.

CrashBand, did you bother reading anything I said?

If so, you'd realize that your post is completely irrelevant.

Do you believe in evolution?

[Spyder]

no the man i said above started this thoery

and that has nothing to do with that planet

and it doesnt has solid proof that it was aliens
it just comes with all the senisble things i said above

but like i said i think evolution took it so far

because the fact we went from monkeys to humans overnight
losing our fur, then wearing fur to keep warm
goes against evolutions theory of evolving for better

so find me some proof of that, thats why scientist want bigfoot so bad
"the missing link"

but beside the 4 million ufo sightings since the 70's
and the obvious pyramid building which evolution cant explain anything to do with that

[CrashBand]

^ I'm not sure if trolling.

Your arguments against evolution are retarded.

[Emadyville]

^ I'm not sure if trolling.

Your arguments against evolution are retarded.

He's not trolling, he believes 100% everything ancient aliens told him

that is a brilliant show tbh. i wouldnt discount a lot of what they talk about there. But thats just me.

[Eedee]

I tried watching Ancient Aliens... They're doing the same thing creationists do... they can't explain something so they say aliens did it and try to find evidence to support their claims instead of the other way around. It's infuriating.

[CrashBand]

I wasn't talking about his alien shit.

These points were just utterly ridiculous

because the fact we went from monkeys to humans overnight

This has to be a troll. We didn't go overnight.

losing our fur, then wearing fur to keep warm goes against evolutions theory of evolving for better

Again, I'm unsure if serious. I spose wearing shoes or condoms disproves evolution as well.

thats why scientist want bigfoot so bad

This capped off what I thought must be a troll.

Or maybe you are just getting confused / emotional.

but beside the 4 million ufo sightings since the 70's and the obvious pyramid building which evolution cant explain anything to do with that

Evolution doesn't need to explain UFO / Fairy sightings. I don't think you understand what evolution is.

[Spyder]

but to say there was a huge boat that took every animal from a magic mans orders is awkward
but saying things were made by a society with technology

we can gene splice and clone, so if we can why couldnt a smarter people have done it a long time ago

saying god did it is saying magic happened
saying aliens did it is saying evolution happened earlier somewhere else and they used technology

we went to the moon, had there been some kind of creature, we would have been god like
descending from the sky in rocketships

[Emadyville]

I tried watching Ancient Aliens... They're doing the same thing creationists do... they can't explain something so they say aliens did it and try to find evidence to support their claims instead of the other way around. It's infuriating.

yeah but there is shit thats interesting as fuck on that show regardless

[classthe_king]

no the man i said above started this thoery

and that has nothing to do with that planet

and it doesnt has solid proof that it was aliens
it just comes with all the senisble things i said above

but like i said i think evolution took it so far

because the fact we went from monkeys to humans overnight
losing our fur, then wearing fur to keep warm
goes against evolutions theory of evolving for better

so find me some proof of that, thats why scientist want bigfoot so bad
"the missing link"

but beside the 4 million ufo sightings since the 70's
and the obvious pyramid building which evolution cant explain anything to do with that

We did NOT turn from monkey's to humans over night. We were never monkeys. We evolved from prime apes and monkeys also evolved from those prime apes. Monkeys are our cousins, not our dads.

And the reason for that was because the #2 chromosome in the prime ape fused together, which is why we have 23 pairs and they only have 24 pairs. This lead to us developing all the things you said. Scientists are not searching for "the missing link." There have been tons of missing links found, we have Apidium, Aegyptopithecus, Proconsul, Pierolapithecus, Ardipithecus, among many others. Also, evolution theory is NOT evolving for better. It never was. It's evolving the traits most adaptable to change, it never said anything about the better traits evolving.

Now you can say whatever you want about aliens programming our dna for their slaves but there is still zero evidence for that and it holds just as much weight as saying some guy named Todd sneezed and created all of us in his napkin.

[Spyder]

at crash

um u didnt disprove anything

scientist are hoping to find bigfoot to prove evolution, this isnt arguable lolol

and im talking about something we had in fur, noone was born with shoes bro
cavemen had fur yet we lost it

and obviously not overnight its an exaggeration cmon man
it happened to quick from being cavedwellers to building monolithic pyramids we cant build today

even scientist cant explain the jump, so if u claim u can ur full of shit
thats why they wanna find bigfoot bro to make the connection between monkey and human

not arguable

[classthe_king]

This is serious debate, don't come in here and troll.

[Spyder]

lawl thanks for the debate and the vast answers in that post

[Block]

What's your excuse now?

Are you serious? You're taking this way too personally, lol. I didn't give any excuses. I simply said that one does not equal the other. I.E: not believing in a personal 'god' does not mean that person does not believe in a creator. Where's the excuse in that statement?

Calm down, hero. You're not going to change what I believe. I've already stated I'm not trying to change anyone's views, so why are you so adamant with attempting to shove yours down people's throats? Isn't that what atheists accuse religious people of doing?

EDIT: You're getting your resources from a nihilist site, lol. If the bias isn't obvious to you, I'm not sure what to say. Any statistics can be misconstrued. I'm not at liberty to believe much of anything posted by random people on the internet who claim to be 'experts'.

Read the book. Or don't, I don't really care. But calm down.

[Block]

Just to put this out there, I never said that I believe in creationism as told by the bible. But I dont believe in evolution either. Sure, we evolve over time. That's natural. It's seen even in economics on a much smaller scale. But the theories of evolution and natural selection have just as much proof against them as there is for them. I simply choose the option that I don't know how the fuck we were made. Neither do you. Neither do any of these scientists that claim to. Neither do the Christians, Buddhists, Mormons, etc. Nobody does.