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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 02:01

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classthe_king wrote:I'm just butting in to say that string theory is not an alternate theory to the big bang. String theory is trying to combine the theory of relativity, which applies to big objects and quantum theory, which applies to subatomic objects. It has nothing to do with the origins of the universe. Same with M-Theory.

Actually they are. Perhaps you don't understand them?


I just stated what it was? :facepalm

Do some more research. They're all alternate theories to big bang.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby classthe_king » Sep 25th, '12, 02:04

"String theory is an active research framework in particle physics that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity. It is a contender for a theory of everything (TOE), a self-contained mathematical model that describes all fundamental forces and forms of matter. String theory posits that the elementary particles (ie. electrons and quarks) within an atom are not 0-dimensional objects, but rather 1-dimensional oscillating lines ("strings")."

Nothing about that comes close to saying that string theory is an alternative to the big bang or is attempting to explain the origins of the universe. YOU do some more research.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Eedee » Sep 25th, '12, 02:07

Here, Block, I'll make this simple for you:

I didn't change my story at all and you're putting words in my mouth. Stop trolling.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 02:08

classthe_king wrote:"String theory is an active research framework in particle physics that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity. It is a contender for a theory of everything (TOE), a self-contained mathematical model that describes all fundamental forces and forms of matter. String theory posits that the elementary particles (ie. electrons and quarks) within an atom are not 0-dimensional objects, but rather 1-dimensional oscillating lines ("strings")."

Nothing about that comes close to saying that string theory is an alternative to the big bang or is attempting to explain the origins of the universe. YOU do some more research.


You've never seen Hawking speak about this, have you? I don't claim to know the entirety of any theory, but I know for a fact that he--and others--have said that if proven, string theory would dismiss big bang.

So instead of being the antagonist simply for the sake of argument, why don't you quit acting like a douche and actually research something more than a wikipedia article.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 02:09

Eedee wrote:Here, Block, I'll make this simple for you:

I didn't change my story at all and you're putting words in my mouth. Stop trolling.


You claimed theories are facts. Why the hell would I make multiple posts to disprove what you claimed, if you didn't say that? Idiocy is running rampant within the atheist community on TR.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Eedee » Sep 25th, '12, 02:11

Block wrote:
Eedee wrote:Here, Block, I'll make this simple for you:

I didn't change my story at all and you're putting words in my mouth. Stop trolling.


You claimed theories are facts. Why the hell would I make multiple posts to disprove what you claimed, if you didn't say that? Idiocy is running rampant within the atheist community on TR.


I didn't say that at all.

I said theories explain the facts... Not that theories ARE facts.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 02:16

Eedee wrote:
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Eedee wrote:Here, Block, I'll make this simple for you:

I didn't change my story at all and you're putting words in my mouth. Stop trolling.


You claimed theories are facts. Why the hell would I make multiple posts to disprove what you claimed, if you didn't say that? Idiocy is running rampant within the atheist community on TR.


I didn't say that at all.

I said theories explain the facts... Not that theories ARE facts.


You put gravity in the same boat as evolution. Gravity is a fact, not a theory. We know gravity exists. So either you're saying that we haven't 100% proven gravity, or we have 100% proven evolution. The latter being false.

Which is it? I'm not sure why I'm bothering to ask, since your story changes so much.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby classthe_king » Sep 25th, '12, 02:18

^^^The THEORY of gravity. Gravity is a theory, not a fact.



Yes I have watched Stephen Hawking speak on it, and I haven't seen him say anything about that other than that it deems a creator unnecessary. If you'd like the video that would be great.

Actually the first video I watched, in Stephen Hawking's first sentence he said, "M-Theory is the theory of everything, it explains how the universe was created out of nothing in the big bang and how it behaves now."

I guess it does explain the origins of the universe but it still works together with the big bang so it's not a competing theory.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Eedee » Sep 25th, '12, 02:20

The Theory of Gravity... The Theory of Evolution... The Big Bang Theory...

Gravity is more than likely 99.999999% true. More than that, probably. Evolution is 99.99999999% true. Big Bang is 99.999999% true. It's as close as to a fact as a THEORY can get. Holy shit you can't understand this, can you?

I'm honestly done talking to you now. You put words in my mouth and just troll. You're not worth the typing.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 02:26

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Gravity is more than likely 99.999999% true. More than that, probably.

This is the only thing you said that's even remotely true.

Evolution is 99.99999999% true.

Wrong.


Big Bang is 99.999999% true.

Wrong. Explain to me how big bang can be 99% true when it doesn't come close to explaining what how? When reversed (as I already posted) the big bang theory hits a point where it cannot explain anything any further.

It's as close as to a fact as a THEORY can get.

How much more wrong can you get?

Holy shit you can't understand this, can you?

I'm honestly done talking to you now. You put words in my mouth and just troll. You're not worth the typing.

You keep saying that, yet you keep typing... I'm only quoting things you've said. Nothing more, nothing less. Your own arrogance is getting in your way.


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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 02:26

If gravity isn't a fact, go jump off a cliff and prove it wrong.
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Eedee » Sep 25th, '12, 02:32

Block wrote:Wrong.


(Evolution) How so? All the evidence points to it.


Block wrote:Wrong. Explain to me how big bang can be 99% true when it doesn't come close to explaining what how? When reversed (as I already posted) the big bang theory hits a point where it cannot explain anything any further.


And that's when the theory ends. It only entails that the universe came into being with an explosion. It does NOT say what came before and shit. Holy hell.

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How much more wrong can you get?


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You keep saying that, yet you keep typing... I'm only quoting things you've said. Nothing more, nothing less. Your own arrogance is getting in your way.


Wrong. You put words in my mouth. Show me where I said that "theory is a fact" and I'll admit I said that. Until then, you're putting words in my mouth and blatantly trolling the thread. It's getting really annoying. Your ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds, it seems...
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Spyder » Sep 25th, '12, 02:51

did someone dispute gravity being factual?
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 04:54

Eedee wrote:
Block wrote:Wrong.


(Evolution) How so? All the evidence points to it.

Now you're just fucking ridiculous. IF ALL EVIDENCE POINTED TOWARD EVOLUTION, IT WOULD BE A FACT. IT IS NOT A FACT. I posted--more than once--references pointing toward creationism. YOU decided to ignore them.


And that's when the theory ends.

If the theory ends before it even starts, what the fuck are you left with? How does NOTHING explode from NOTHING?


It only entails that the universe came into being with an explosion. It does NOT say what came before and shit. Holy hell.

>Theory about how everything came in to being
>can't explain how everything came in to being
>allegedly 99.99999% true
>DERRRRRRRRRRRP

Does that really make sense to you? REALLY? "I KEN UNPROVE U RONG CUZ EVERYTING GO BOOM BUT I DONT TELL U DAT WE REELY DNT NO IT LUL"

Fucking seriously?



Wrong. You put words in my mouth. Show me where I said that "theory is a fact" and I'll admit I said that. Until then, you're putting words in my mouth and blatantly trolling the thread.

I already addressed that you said that. Multiple times. In fact, I showed you the difference between fact an theory.

Your ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds, it seems...

You're really going to regurgitate what I've already told you? Haha. It seems ALL you can do is regurgitate shit you've read, then misconstrue it and call it fact. You're good at that (regurgitating)--I'm guessing you've had a lot of practice spitting unwanted shit outta your mouth?
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Re: If you're atheist..

Postby Block » Sep 25th, '12, 04:57

What happened to not posting again, btw?
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